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Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
August 09 2012 12:43 GMT
#3621
On August 09 2012 21:38 zoego wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 20:58 derb2k2 wrote:
On August 09 2012 17:50 zoego wrote:
Im going to buy a new keyboard soon, and been doing some research. Im kinda in to blue switches because of the klick, but i heard its realy loud, I can imagine it can get kinda annoying after a while. Any one that hade that "problem"?
(sorry for the bad english)




yea the sound of blues is great and is loud compared to most boards. Shoudln't be a problem if you have your own room or place. It's quite enjoyable.


Okay, thanks for the answers. And how about over skype, any one had complains about the clicky sound? (mic matters obv, but overall)


My friends hear me playing sc2 when on vent. But its more background noise, it won't drown out your voice.
zoego
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden5 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-09 13:08:22
August 09 2012 13:04 GMT
#3622
On August 09 2012 21:43 Blaec wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 21:38 zoego wrote:
On August 09 2012 20:58 derb2k2 wrote:
On August 09 2012 17:50 zoego wrote:
Im going to buy a new keyboard soon, and been doing some research. Im kinda in to blue switches because of the klick, but i heard its realy loud, I can imagine it can get kinda annoying after a while. Any one that hade that "problem"?
(sorry for the bad english)




yea the sound of blues is great and is loud compared to most boards. Shoudln't be a problem if you have your own room or place. It's quite enjoyable.


Okay, thanks for the answers. And how about over skype, any one had complains about the clicky sound? (mic matters obv, but overall)


My friends hear me playing sc2 when on vent. But its more background noise, it won't drown out your voice.


Okay, but if u watch like destinys stream when hes playing, he must be using blue switches cuz it sounds like a machine gun when hes typing. Im just worried, cuz im on skype like everyday. But i tried out a Ducky G2PRO with blue switches and it was really awsome!

BTW, what do you guys think about the Ducky G2PRO mech with blue switches??
Naniwa <3 StarTale <3
ZeraX
Profile Joined April 2011
France14 Posts
August 09 2012 15:04 GMT
#3623
What do you guys think about qpad mk 50 mx red ?
Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-09 16:50:36
August 09 2012 16:48 GMT
#3624
On August 09 2012 22:04 zoego wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 21:43 Blaec wrote:
On August 09 2012 21:38 zoego wrote:
On August 09 2012 20:58 derb2k2 wrote:
On August 09 2012 17:50 zoego wrote:
Im going to buy a new keyboard soon, and been doing some research. Im kinda in to blue switches because of the klick, but i heard its realy loud, I can imagine it can get kinda annoying after a while. Any one that hade that "problem"?
(sorry for the bad english)




yea the sound of blues is great and is loud compared to most boards. Shoudln't be a problem if you have your own room or place. It's quite enjoyable.


Okay, thanks for the answers. And how about over skype, any one had complains about the clicky sound? (mic matters obv, but overall)


My friends hear me playing sc2 when on vent. But its more background noise, it won't drown out your voice.


Okay, but if u watch like destinys stream when hes playing, he must be using blue switches cuz it sounds like a machine gun when hes typing. Im just worried, cuz im on skype like everyday. But i tried out a Ducky G2PRO with blue switches and it was really awsome!

BTW, what do you guys think about the Ducky G2PRO mech with blue switches??


Well I guess it depends how you have your mic setup, mine is at my neck on my headphone cable. Maybe Destiny has a desk mic?

That Ducky is good as long as it isn't too expensive (shouldn't be much more than $150).

On August 10 2012 00:04 ZeraX wrote:
What do you guys think about qpad mk 50 mx red ?


Afaik (don't have one) they are ok. Not the best build quality but they are pretty cheap. Decent choice if you don't want to spend too much.
karolat
Profile Joined November 2010
United States11 Posts
August 09 2012 16:58 GMT
#3625
On August 09 2012 15:32 Blaec wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 15:08 Infernal_dream wrote:
On August 09 2012 14:50 Blaec wrote:
On August 09 2012 13:34 karolat wrote:
I'm thinking of buying a replacement keyboard for my Das Professional S which I had a spill accident with leaving the switches sticky and, while usable, nothing of what it first was. I was considering switching over to brown switches--is it a big difference? I really enjoy the feel of the blue switches and love the sound, but I sometimes find I won't completely lift a key before hitting another one (when queuing commands in SC I'll find myself adding that unit to another control group because I haven't completely lifted my finger off the shift key). Also--should I try a Ducky keyboard with brown or blue switches or stick with Das?


Yes browns are very different, kind of clunky and gritty compared to the crisp clacking of blues (can you tell I prefer blues?) and don't have the difficulties in doubletapping.

I don't see any reason to get a ducky over a Das unless you want to save some money or want backlighting.

Also you should be able to clean your Das, if the stickyness is inside the switches you can even resort to soaking the entire thing in isopropyl alcohol. Das keyboard themselves share how to do it here.


My friend spilled beer in his and had a few sticky keys. Told him to clean it with isopropyl alcohol but he somehow fucked up and now more of the keys are messed up. I think it's because the grease on the springs got taken off though. How would one be able to tell the difference between the spring being messed up or it still being sticky?


Well afaik there isn't any grease on the spring, its on the contacts in the switch. So it should feel like metal rubbing against plastic instead of stickyness. But Ive never done it, so this is just speculation.


Yeah, I seem to have done the same thing. I've tried three times using alcohol (once dabbing some alcohol on the switches, the second using q-tips to apply more to the switches, the third time pretty much just pouring it on the switches and board). Each time the switches feel fine while it's wet but become almost too sticky to use once it dries (the board does work find when plugged in, the key action just feels much different). I'm going to try calling Das today and seeing whether they have any other suggestions otherwise I'm just gonna buy a new one I guess, this time without the labels on the keys
karolat
Profile Joined November 2010
United States11 Posts
August 09 2012 17:06 GMT
#3626
Update: called them and they said they would send me a replacement for $75
Sovano
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1503 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-09 17:46:20
August 09 2012 17:40 GMT
#3627
On August 09 2012 22:04 zoego wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 21:43 Blaec wrote:
On August 09 2012 21:38 zoego wrote:
On August 09 2012 20:58 derb2k2 wrote:
On August 09 2012 17:50 zoego wrote:
Im going to buy a new keyboard soon, and been doing some research. Im kinda in to blue switches because of the klick, but i heard its realy loud, I can imagine it can get kinda annoying after a while. Any one that hade that "problem"?
(sorry for the bad english)




yea the sound of blues is great and is loud compared to most boards. Shoudln't be a problem if you have your own room or place. It's quite enjoyable.


Okay, thanks for the answers. And how about over skype, any one had complains about the clicky sound? (mic matters obv, but overall)


My friends hear me playing sc2 when on vent. But its more background noise, it won't drown out your voice.


Okay, but if u watch like destinys stream when hes playing, he must be using blue switches cuz it sounds like a machine gun when hes typing. Im just worried, cuz im on skype like everyday. But i tried out a Ducky G2PRO with blue switches and it was really awsome!

BTW, what do you guys think about the Ducky G2PRO mech with blue switches??

Trust me, blue switches are loud no matter how your mic is set up. Everyone pretty much bottoms out so the sound is even louder. You just need to have friends who are okay with that sound. I play SC2 with my friends over Skype and they're completely fine with it, even though I spam my APM pretty high. Although I have tested it on other computers to hear the sound myself and it is quite loud background noise. However, as mentioned before it shouldn't really drown out your voice. So really just make sure your friends are okay with it. Otherwise blue switches are really enjoyable to type on.


On August 10 2012 02:06 karolat wrote:
Update: called them and they said they would send me a replacement for $75

If I were you I'd take it, but that's my preference. I'm pretty sure they can go for re-sale for even higher since it would be new, but I'd have to look around on that.

Edit: Ah okay just checked. They're going for $100 new on Amazon, although I'm not sure if this is a temporary deal or not.
http://www.amazon.com/Das-Keyboard-Model-Professional-Mechanical/dp/B003M567V6
I'd still do it though if you're content with the mechanical keyboard or you can always just browse around and try new brands.
karolat
Profile Joined November 2010
United States11 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-09 20:50:52
August 09 2012 20:47 GMT
#3628
On August 10 2012 02:40 Sovano wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 22:04 zoego wrote:
On August 09 2012 21:43 Blaec wrote:
On August 09 2012 21:38 zoego wrote:
On August 09 2012 20:58 derb2k2 wrote:
On August 09 2012 17:50 zoego wrote:
Im going to buy a new keyboard soon, and been doing some research. Im kinda in to blue switches because of the klick, but i heard its realy loud, I can imagine it can get kinda annoying after a while. Any one that hade that "problem"?
(sorry for the bad english)




yea the sound of blues is great and is loud compared to most boards. Shoudln't be a problem if you have your own room or place. It's quite enjoyable.


Okay, thanks for the answers. And how about over skype, any one had complains about the clicky sound? (mic matters obv, but overall)


My friends hear me playing sc2 when on vent. But its more background noise, it won't drown out your voice.


Okay, but if u watch like destinys stream when hes playing, he must be using blue switches cuz it sounds like a machine gun when hes typing. Im just worried, cuz im on skype like everyday. But i tried out a Ducky G2PRO with blue switches and it was really awsome!

BTW, what do you guys think about the Ducky G2PRO mech with blue switches??

Trust me, blue switches are loud no matter how your mic is set up. Everyone pretty much bottoms out so the sound is even louder. You just need to have friends who are okay with that sound. I play SC2 with my friends over Skype and they're completely fine with it, even though I spam my APM pretty high. Although I have tested it on other computers to hear the sound myself and it is quite loud background noise. However, as mentioned before it shouldn't really drown out your voice. So really just make sure your friends are okay with it. Otherwise blue switches are really enjoyable to type on.


Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 02:06 karolat wrote:
Update: called them and they said they would send me a replacement for $75

If I were you I'd take it, but that's my preference. I'm pretty sure they can go for re-sale for even higher since it would be new, but I'd have to look around on that.

Edit: Ah okay just checked. They're going for $100 new on Amazon, although I'm not sure if this is a temporary deal or not.
http://www.amazon.com/Das-Keyboard-Model-Professional-Mechanical/dp/B003M567V6
I'd still do it though if you're content with the mechanical keyboard or you can always just browse around and try new brands.


I went ahead and bought a replacement, except this time I went with the ultimate B-) It was just too good a deal to pass up.

I've gotten so used to the response on the keys that I was afraid to try the brown switches. Too bad there's nowhere you can really go to try out different switches... wish my friends had some mech boards.

Edit: Also, I'm still gonna try and salvage the board I have. Does anyone know how to properly go about lubricating the switches?
Soulstice
Profile Joined December 2011
United States288 Posts
August 09 2012 21:20 GMT
#3629
On August 10 2012 00:04 ZeraX wrote:
What do you guys think about qpad mk 50 mx red ?


I just got mine in the mail today and i've got to say...I FEEL THE POWER!! But seriously I'm loving this keyboard so far, but my opinion really isn't that valid for i've never typed on a mechanical keyboard before this one. The only con i can think of (if it is one) is that it is a bit louder than my previous non-mech keyboards, but i think that's just how it is with all mech boards.
Living the liefe
Sein
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1811 Posts
August 09 2012 22:31 GMT
#3630
On August 09 2012 04:59 derb2k2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 02:57 LJ wrote:
On August 09 2012 01:04 zYwi3c wrote:
Cant decide.

Atm im thinking about CM Storm QuickFire Pro with MX Reds or Browns.
What do you guys think ?

I'm asking cuz i cant 'check by myself' how the reds or browns feels like, and ill order this keyboard from overseas so there could be a problem with return and order another one.

Gonna use keyboard for: lots of typing / starcraft 2 / World of Warcraft.
I would get reds if you are playing lots of games or even black if you don't have a light touch



I do wonder how "stiff" blacks are. Actuation is supposedly 15 g more for blacks than reds. That 15 g difference must feel substantial. If you're a long time gamer, or plan to game for a long time, I would get reds. I've been gaming for >10 years now and will probably stick to red switches for life lol


They are pretty stiff. It took me a while to get used to typing on my current keyboard (SS 6gvs) and I used to miss a few commends on SC2 because I didn't press down hard enough on some keys. It doesn't really happen anymore because my fingers have adjusted for the most part. I'm still looking for a a blue or brown keyboard these days though.
hoLyNtt
Profile Joined April 2011
United States170 Posts
August 10 2012 01:55 GMT
#3631
On August 10 2012 07:31 Sein wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 04:59 derb2k2 wrote:
On August 09 2012 02:57 LJ wrote:
On August 09 2012 01:04 zYwi3c wrote:
Cant decide.

Atm im thinking about CM Storm QuickFire Pro with MX Reds or Browns.
What do you guys think ?

I'm asking cuz i cant 'check by myself' how the reds or browns feels like, and ill order this keyboard from overseas so there could be a problem with return and order another one.

Gonna use keyboard for: lots of typing / starcraft 2 / World of Warcraft.
I would get reds if you are playing lots of games or even black if you don't have a light touch



I do wonder how "stiff" blacks are. Actuation is supposedly 15 g more for blacks than reds. That 15 g difference must feel substantial. If you're a long time gamer, or plan to game for a long time, I would get reds. I've been gaming for >10 years now and will probably stick to red switches for life lol


They are pretty stiff. It took me a while to get used to typing on my current keyboard (SS 6gvs) and I used to miss a few commends on SC2 because I didn't press down hard enough on some keys. It doesn't really happen anymore because my fingers have adjusted for the most part. I'm still looking for a a blue or brown keyboard these days though.


damn, that's good to know thanks man. My fingers have taken a beating over the years and woulnd't want to damage them further. Rubber dome was giving my hand lots of aches. The blue switches helped but the red switches are a dream for me(and my fingers lol).
kiss me
Nefariously
Profile Joined December 2010
277 Posts
August 10 2012 02:29 GMT
#3632
I've heard Blacks feel exactly like Reds and the only difference is actuation force. Can anyone verify this claim?
now ask me if i care
slytown
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Korea (South)1411 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-11 08:20:12
August 10 2012 04:08 GMT
#3633
On August 10 2012 10:55 derb2k2 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

On August 10 2012 07:31 Sein wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 04:59 derb2k2 wrote:
On August 09 2012 02:57 LJ wrote:
On August 09 2012 01:04 zYwi3c wrote:
Cant decide.

Atm im thinking about CM Storm QuickFire Pro with MX Reds or Browns.
What do you guys think ?

I'm asking cuz i cant 'check by myself' how the reds or browns feels like, and ill order this keyboard from overseas so there could be a problem with return and order another one.

Gonna use keyboard for: lots of typing / starcraft 2 / World of Warcraft.
I would get reds if you are playing lots of games or even black if you don't have a light touch



I do wonder how "stiff" blacks are. Actuation is supposedly 15 g more for blacks than reds. That 15 g difference must feel substantial. If you're a long time gamer, or plan to game for a long time, I would get reds. I've been gaming for >10 years now and will probably stick to red switches for life lol


They are pretty stiff. It took me a while to get used to typing on my current keyboard (SS 6gvs) and I used to miss a few commends on SC2 because I didn't press down hard enough on some keys. It doesn't really happen anymore because my fingers have adjusted for the most part. I'm still looking for a a blue or brown keyboard these days though.


damn, that's good to know thanks man. My fingers have taken a beating over the years and woulnd't want to damage them further. Rubber dome was giving my hand lots of aches. The blue switches helped but the red switches are a dream for me(and my fingers lol).


Lulz. Anyone saying black switches are that difficult to press are overstating it. It's still only 60g. It's just a different feel, not exactly a workout. I wish so many people wouldn't believe the hype.

Edit:
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Neelia
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany599 Posts
August 10 2012 05:39 GMT
#3634
On August 10 2012 11:29 Nefariously wrote:
I've heard Blacks feel exactly like Reds and the only difference is actuation force. Can anyone verify this claim?


Yup, they're basically the same, except the MX Reds use a different spring which requires less force to actuate. If you shop around for MX Blue springs you can mod your MX Blacks to 'Ghetto Reds' by exchanging the springs.

Small overview about the different switch types.


Soliloquist
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)89 Posts
August 10 2012 07:28 GMT
#3635
Hi. i just want to know. what are O rings for? i own a X9 from max keyboards and was wondering if i would need some but the question that came to me was, what use does it have and why do people use it?

hoLyNtt
Profile Joined April 2011
United States170 Posts
August 10 2012 15:33 GMT
#3636
On August 10 2012 13:08 slytown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 10:55 derb2k2 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

On August 10 2012 07:31 Sein wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 04:59 derb2k2 wrote:
On August 09 2012 02:57 LJ wrote:
On August 09 2012 01:04 zYwi3c wrote:
Cant decide.

Atm im thinking about CM Storm QuickFire Pro with MX Reds or Browns.
What do you guys think ?

I'm asking cuz i cant 'check by myself' how the reds or browns feels like, and ill order this keyboard from overseas so there could be a problem with return and order another one.

Gonna use keyboard for: lots of typing / starcraft 2 / World of Warcraft.
I would get reds if you are playing lots of games or even black if you don't have a light touch



I do wonder how "stiff" blacks are. Actuation is supposedly 15 g more for blacks than reds. That 15 g difference must feel substantial. If you're a long time gamer, or plan to game for a long time, I would get reds. I've been gaming for >10 years now and will probably stick to red switches for life lol


They are pretty stiff. It took me a while to get used to typing on my current keyboard (SS 6gvs) and I used to miss a few commends on SC2 because I didn't press down hard enough on some keys. It doesn't really happen anymore because my fingers have adjusted for the most part. I'm still looking for a a blue or brown keyboard these days though.


damn, that's good to know thanks man. My fingers have taken a beating over the years and woulnd't want to damage them further. Rubber dome was giving my hand lots of aches. The blue switches helped but the red switches are a dream for me(and my fingers lol).


Lulz. Anyone saying black switches are that difficult to press are overstating it. It's still only 50g. It's just a different feel, not exactly a workout. I wish so many people wouldn't believe the hype.



i've read on numerous sites it's 55 - 60 g .
kiss me
Sovano
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1503 Posts
August 10 2012 16:31 GMT
#3637
On August 10 2012 16:28 Soliloquist wrote:
Hi. i just want to know. what are O rings for? i own a X9 from max keyboards and was wondering if i would need some but the question that came to me was, what use does it have and why do people use it?


Pretty simple. O-Rings are just used to dampen the sound of cherry switches. It's more common to use them on blue switches because of their pure loudness. Others still find the need with quieter switches like browns to make them even more silent. More so its to not bug other people living with you when you use your mechanical keyboard, but some do prefer using them for personal use.
ripster
Profile Joined July 2012
United States64 Posts
August 10 2012 16:39 GMT
#3638
On August 09 2012 15:32 Blaec wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 15:08 Infernal_dream wrote:


My friend spilled beer in his and had a few sticky keys. Told him to clean it with isopropyl alcohol but he somehow fucked up and now more of the keys are messed up. I think it's because the grease on the springs got taken off though. How would one be able to tell the difference between the spring being messed up or it still being sticky?


Well afaik there isn't any grease on the spring, its on the contacts in the switch. So it should feel like metal rubbing against plastic instead of stickyness. But Ive never done it, so this is just speculation.


Next time try this:
http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/wra4r/the_mechanical_keyboard_modder_toolkit_part_two/
The Number One Mechanical Keyboard Expert On The Liquid Planet
StackerTwo
Profile Joined February 2012
United States41 Posts
August 10 2012 21:32 GMT
#3639
I'm looking for a
Cherry Brown/Red + Backlit + Programmable(I use fairly unique hotkeys...)

Any one have any experience with the Cooler Master Storm Trigger? This is the only mech keyboard I know of that meets all 3 reqs of mine... any others?
Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-11 07:59:49
August 11 2012 07:59 GMT
#3640
On August 11 2012 01:39 ripster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 15:32 Blaec wrote:
On August 09 2012 15:08 Infernal_dream wrote:


My friend spilled beer in his and had a few sticky keys. Told him to clean it with isopropyl alcohol but he somehow fucked up and now more of the keys are messed up. I think it's because the grease on the springs got taken off though. How would one be able to tell the difference between the spring being messed up or it still being sticky?


Well afaik there isn't any grease on the spring, its on the contacts in the switch. So it should feel like metal rubbing against plastic instead of stickyness. But Ive never done it, so this is just speculation.


Next time try this:
http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/wra4r/the_mechanical_keyboard_modder_toolkit_part_two/


Ahh nice. Have your wikis/guides re-emerged post geekhack? If so, where can one find them?
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