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Silencioseu
Profile Joined June 2011
Cyprus493 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-23 23:24:10
July 23 2012 23:23 GMT
#3421
Edit: Nvm.
i kno i r badass no need to repeat
imagran
Profile Joined May 2010
Poland22 Posts
July 24 2012 00:21 GMT
#3422
Reds or Browns?

I dont know if the tactile would be abnoxious in sc2, when i need to spam mass apm. Also the double tapping issue with browns.

Dunno, any advices?
m1rk3
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada412 Posts
July 24 2012 00:51 GMT
#3423
On July 24 2012 09:21 imagran wrote:
Reds or Browns?

I dont know if the tactile would be abnoxious in sc2, when i need to spam mass apm. Also the double tapping issue with browns.

Dunno, any advices?


The browns tactile feel is barely noticeable. Both the reds and browns require same amount of force. If you have any keyboards in mind or you are looking at some, we can give you advice.
For the Dominion!
DG.Zeya
Profile Joined January 2012
United States39 Posts
July 24 2012 01:42 GMT
#3424
On July 24 2012 05:45 Kronen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2012 23:49 DG.Zeya wrote:
I have question, dunno if anyone can help. I'm looking at a tenkeyless Ducky keyboard with Cherry Brown switches (http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=42) but I cannot stand the fact that the letters on the right side of the keyboard have a number pad on them. That's the reason I'm getting tenkeyless in the first place! I assume it's activated by some sort of function key and thus I could just never use it, but looking at it is annoying.

So my question is, does anyone know of a similar keyboard, tenkeyless, brown switches, without the numpad like that? Please don't say CM Quickfire-- I hate the font on ALL of the CM keyboards.


You're in luck! For (assumingly a bit) more money, you can get the Year of the Dragon Ducky board. It is probably going to be expensive and I recommend emailing them directly about getting it in the USA. They are very helpful and have responded (in English) to my requests. I'm a Ducky Shine owner. You can check out the sexy that is the custom settings on the dragon backlit on this youtube page.

Other than that, see if you can find a Filco or Leopold Tenkeyless. You can check out an American distributor at this website (I've linked you straight to the tenkeyless page) elitekeyboards.com.

Good luck!


Hey man, thanks for the help! I might stay away from that Ducky board too, actually-- even though I'm a touch typist, fancy text bothers the hell out of me! Dunno why, lol.

What about this one? http://www.amazon.com/Filco-Majestouch-2-Tenkeyless-FKBN87M-EB2/dp/B004WOF7QM It's hella expensive but I've heard really good things about Filco. Leopold is also nice, apparently, but I've heard that it's just not...as solid as some other manufacturers? I dunno...
slytown
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Korea (South)1411 Posts
July 24 2012 05:18 GMT
#3425
On July 24 2012 08:10 Wintex wrote:
Does anyone know where to get keycaps to my SS 6gv2 like TaeJa? He had this awesome Filco with rainbow keycaps! You're my only hope! <3


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imagran
Profile Joined May 2010
Poland22 Posts
July 24 2012 07:57 GMT
#3426
On July 24 2012 09:51 m1rk3 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2012 09:21 imagran wrote:
Reds or Browns?

I dont know if the tactile would be abnoxious in sc2, when i need to spam mass apm. Also the double tapping issue with browns.

Dunno, any advices?


The browns tactile feel is barely noticeable. Both the reds and browns require same amount of force. If you have any keyboards in mind or you are looking at some, we can give you advice.



I am buying my first mecahnical keyboard Probably it wil be Noppoo Choc Mini, just deciding with the switches.
Lu_e
Profile Joined December 2011
United States95 Posts
July 24 2012 08:11 GMT
#3427
On July 24 2012 06:25 Silencioseu wrote:
Hey TL I'm going to buy a new mechanical keyboard, i'm most likely going to get it from local shops(if there are any good ones) else i'm gonna wait to get one through internet. So the situation is, in Cyprus, most of the shops will probably have
Roccat and Razer brands, which i don't really like, for the reason that i don't wanna pay extra for a mediocre product, just because it has all this alien lights. But i've heared that the blackwidow is pretty cheap, and my money are not alot to begin with. The thing is that Razer blackwidow is pretty cheap in comparison with i.e Filco keyboards.
So would you recommend Razer blackwidow, or anything pretty much from Roccat or Razer, that is reasonably price for it's quality, else what good keyboards could you recommend(i like tenkeyless keyboards) that are cheaper than brands like Filco.

Thank you very much in advance.
I'm interested in Zowie celeritas, but it's way out of my budget
EDIT: I think i've found the keyboard perfect for me: CoolerMaster storm quickfire rapid with red switches. I avoid blue switches because my pc is in the hall, and the prize is in my budget, only concern is if i can ship this in Cyprus. ALSO it's tenkeyless which is extra bonus


Leopold? http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=leopold,tenkeyless
sawedust
Profile Joined December 2010
United States506 Posts
July 24 2012 08:59 GMT
#3428
On July 24 2012 09:21 imagran wrote:
Reds or Browns?

I dont know if the tactile would be abnoxious in sc2, when i need to spam mass apm. Also the double tapping issue with browns.

Dunno, any advices?


I prefer reds over browns for StarCraft II. The tactile bump of the browns is barely noticeable, which makes it more of an annoyance than a benefit. The reds, being linear, move straight up and down with barely any resistance. Because of that I find reds to be a better switch for me when it comes to SC2. There's no double-tap issue with either switch; blues are the only common switch that has this problem.

When it comes to typing, it's more of a wash between reds and browns. The reds are very light switches and feel like typing on a "cloud of boobs." The light tactility in the browns come in handy when typing; I think the browns feel much more "solid" than reds. Neither of them compare to blue switches for typing; not having tried ergo-clears yet, I have to say blues are my favorite switch for typing.

All that being said, my browns are sitting in its box. Reds for StarCraft, blues for everything else. Take that as you will.

If it matters, browns are Filco TKL MJ1s and the reds and blues are Filco TKL MJ2 Ninjas.

Have fun!
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
July 24 2012 09:32 GMT
#3429
On July 24 2012 02:57 Blackhawk13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2012 22:46 ripster wrote:
On July 23 2012 14:20 Blackhawk13 wrote:
God damnit. Just spilt a large glass of water right on my Das. Unplugged it fairly quickly and removed all the keycaps to help it dry out... Heres to hoping it works when its dry =\



Try this (sorry about borked pics)

http://www.overclock.net/t/1255538/help-broken-my-qpad-mechanical-keyboard-after-spill#post_17215757


Thanks luckly it was just water so i dont have to deal with stickey keys- Ive waited about 15 hours and plugged it back in. All the switches seem to be working excellent but one.... the t key works but the switch doesnt feel normal. It feels really stiff. Is there anything I can do?

tttttt tttt t t t.t

Edit: looked into it some and I guess I can replace the whole switch if I can get my dad to help me with some soldering x.X- at least nothing is damaged beyond repair

I guess there is water inside, or perhaps some kind of crust after it dried. Look up how to open the switch to clean everything inside. The switch is a tiny box with the bottom and top simply clipped together. I remember seeing some forum post (on geekhack.org, I guess) with pictures. It was a guide on how to make weird crosses between the different switch types, a clear MX switch with the soft spring from brown/blue switches etc. That guide perhaps also has information about what Cherry does to a completely new switch, perhaps there is grease inside and the water did something to it?
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
imagran
Profile Joined May 2010
Poland22 Posts
July 24 2012 10:09 GMT
#3430
Thanks for your replies!

I havent decided yet so feel free to post any advices

There is a common sentence that browns are the way to go with RTSes though. What do you say about that?
Bakkendepao
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands185 Posts
July 24 2012 11:23 GMT
#3431
On July 24 2012 19:09 imagran wrote:
Thanks for your replies!

I havent decided yet so feel free to post any advices

There is a common sentence that browns are the way to go with RTSes though. What do you say about that?

Ive been doing a lot of research about it aswell and the majority people ive spoken to seem to prefer reds > browns as per gaming (this is subjective tho) and as per typing browns > reds. This is only the brawl between those two switches tho.

Managed to convince myself of buying a Filco MJ2 TKL Ninja red
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DG.Zeya
Profile Joined January 2012
United States39 Posts
July 24 2012 14:50 GMT
#3432
On July 24 2012 17:11 Lu_e wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2012 06:25 Silencioseu wrote:
Hey TL I'm going to buy a new mechanical keyboard, i'm most likely going to get it from local shops(if there are any good ones) else i'm gonna wait to get one through internet. So the situation is, in Cyprus, most of the shops will probably have
Roccat and Razer brands, which i don't really like, for the reason that i don't wanna pay extra for a mediocre product, just because it has all this alien lights. But i've heared that the blackwidow is pretty cheap, and my money are not alot to begin with. The thing is that Razer blackwidow is pretty cheap in comparison with i.e Filco keyboards.
So would you recommend Razer blackwidow, or anything pretty much from Roccat or Razer, that is reasonably price for it's quality, else what good keyboards could you recommend(i like tenkeyless keyboards) that are cheaper than brands like Filco.

Thank you very much in advance.
I'm interested in Zowie celeritas, but it's way out of my budget
EDIT: I think i've found the keyboard perfect for me: CoolerMaster storm quickfire rapid with red switches. I avoid blue switches because my pc is in the hall, and the prize is in my budget, only concern is if i can ship this in Cyprus. ALSO it's tenkeyless which is extra bonus


Leopold? http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=leopold,tenkeyless


Definitely an option-- for those of you who have a Leopold, how does the build quality feel? Are they nice, sturdy keyboards that will last a while?
Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
July 24 2012 14:59 GMT
#3433
I got a Qpad MK-50 with red switches. Its cheap and has barely any multimedia features, no background lightning and the keycaps are only printed.
But man, I love it. Will never buy a keayboard with rubberdome again.
RIP DOUBLE TI OG | #18 never forget
djcube
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States985 Posts
July 24 2012 15:06 GMT
#3434
On July 23 2012 11:37 Sein wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2012 11:17 derb2k2 wrote:
had my Rosewill rk9000 for a few days now and can say it feels so good to type on. The red switches make a huge difference from the normal membrane. These reds are more responsive and can easily be double-tapped, better than blues on teh black widow. Due to the size and layout of it compared to the G110 logitech I had before, I've had to get used to the placement of my hands and such. It feels great to type on and can play Quake Live with no dodging or strafe problems. I'm totally in love with these modern mech boards now and will be looking to upgrade.


Halldor, how's that majestouch working for ya? must be sweet. :D


Do you see any potential problem with the USB connection on the keyboard? That seems to be the biggest problem with that keyboard from what I've read so far and a lot of people have experienced it quickly becoming loose.

Avoid this keyboard. I bought it from Newegg in January and it just broke on me yesterday. There is a small soldered plate on the keyboard where the detachable cable connects to it and it is VERY fragile. I'm pretty pissed off considering I used it for about half a year and kept it in good condition (it just sat on my desk). The keyboard actually felt great while it worked, but it will break on you and a lot of other buyers seem to have the same exact issue with this soldered piece. I emailed Rosewill about this problem, but there's probably nothing that will be done considering it's been about half a year now since purchase.
Hashbaz
Profile Joined July 2010
United States340 Posts
July 24 2012 16:34 GMT
#3435
On July 24 2012 23:50 DG.Zeya wrote:
Definitely an option-- for those of you who have a Leopold, how does the build quality feel? Are they nice, sturdy keyboards that will last a while?


Absolutely. You will not be disappointed with the build quality. In the same league as Filco and Realforce.
ESPORTS prevails
Kronen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States732 Posts
July 24 2012 17:23 GMT
#3436
Shameless self-cross-post:

If any of you are interested in trying out some O-rings to reduce impact noise on your mech keyboards, let me know!! You're more than welcome to try out my trial pack! Thread is here.

On July 24 2012 10:42 DG.Zeya wrote:

Hey man, thanks for the help! I might stay away from that Ducky board too, actually-- even though I'm a touch typist, fancy text bothers the hell out of me! Dunno why, lol.

What about this one? http://www.amazon.com/Filco-Majestouch-2-Tenkeyless-FKBN87M-EB2/dp/B004WOF7QM It's hella expensive but I've heard really good things about Filco. Leopold is also nice, apparently, but I've heard that it's just not...as solid as some other manufacturers? I dunno...


If you can spring for the Filco you won't be disappointed. Both that board and the Leopold are of the highest quality construction in the industry. Filco is widely consider the industry standard. Happy Hacking and other Topre boards are more expensive, but that's because of the switches they use. Honestly, you can't go wrong. It just comes down to the price point and your own particular taste.
Hashbaz
Profile Joined July 2010
United States340 Posts
July 24 2012 17:46 GMT
#3437
On July 23 2012 11:37 Sein wrote:
Do you see any potential problem with the USB connection on the keyboard? That seems to be the biggest problem with that keyboard from what I've read so far and a lot of people have experienced it quickly becoming loose.


On July 25 2012 00:06 djcube wrote:
Avoid this keyboard. I bought it from Newegg in January and it just broke on me yesterday. There is a small soldered plate on the keyboard where the detachable cable connects to it and it is VERY fragile. I'm pretty pissed off considering I used it for about half a year and kept it in good condition (it just sat on my desk). The keyboard actually felt great while it worked, but it will break on you and a lot of other buyers seem to have the same exact issue with this soldered piece. I emailed Rosewill about this problem, but there's probably nothing that will be done considering it's been about half a year now since purchase.

FWIW I have two Rosewills as my daily drivers at home and work and have had zero issues with them. They go on sale frequently at Newegg, and I wouldn't hesitate to recommend them despite a few people having issues with the USB connection.

Some people have had connection issues with Pokers as well. Maybe you got a dud, or were just unlucky. But lots of people own Rosewills and there's no general "stay away" consensus.
ESPORTS prevails
sawedust
Profile Joined December 2010
United States506 Posts
July 24 2012 18:36 GMT
#3438
On July 24 2012 19:09 imagran wrote:
Thanks for your replies!

I havent decided yet so feel free to post any advices

There is a common sentence that browns are the way to go with RTSes though. What do you say about that?


Depends what your split will be with typing and gaming.

If you're doing more typing than gaming or splitting equal time with typing and gaming, go with the browns.

If you're doing more gaming than typing, go with the reds.

If you're undecided about either choice, go with the browns. Browns have been the safest choice for someone interested in starting their journey in mechanical keyboards. It's not a "cheap" journey at all.. soon you'll be buying other boards to try different switches as well as all different sorts of keycaps
Silencioseu
Profile Joined June 2011
Cyprus493 Posts
July 24 2012 18:36 GMT
#3439
On July 24 2012 17:11 Lu_e wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2012 06:25 Silencioseu wrote:
Hey TL I'm going to buy a new mechanical keyboard, i'm most likely going to get it from local shops(if there are any good ones) else i'm gonna wait to get one through internet. So the situation is, in Cyprus, most of the shops will probably have
Roccat and Razer brands, which i don't really like, for the reason that i don't wanna pay extra for a mediocre product, just because it has all this alien lights. But i've heared that the blackwidow is pretty cheap, and my money are not alot to begin with. The thing is that Razer blackwidow is pretty cheap in comparison with i.e Filco keyboards.
So would you recommend Razer blackwidow, or anything pretty much from Roccat or Razer, that is reasonably price for it's quality, else what good keyboards could you recommend(i like tenkeyless keyboards) that are cheaper than brands like Filco.

Thank you very much in advance.
I'm interested in Zowie celeritas, but it's way out of my budget
EDIT: I think i've found the keyboard perfect for me: CoolerMaster storm quickfire rapid with red switches. I avoid blue switches because my pc is in the hall, and the prize is in my budget, only concern is if i can ship this in Cyprus. ALSO it's tenkeyless which is extra bonus


Leopold? http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=leopold,tenkeyless

I checked it out, reasonable price, but to ship it in cyprus is 50 dollars, and i don't feel like it's worth it...
i kno i r badass no need to repeat
Silencioseu
Profile Joined June 2011
Cyprus493 Posts
July 24 2012 18:39 GMT
#3440
Seems like impossible to get a good mechanical keyboard here without paying tons. Looks like i'm gonna get an overpriced logitech from the shops around here
i kno i r badass no need to repeat
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