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Thezftw
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland116 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-24 14:59:09
March 24 2012 14:58 GMT
#1521
C2D can run SC2 at 60 FPS if it's a med-high end model (Q6600 - Q9XXX or E8400 and higher). Get one of those used, and OC a bit.

Then grab something like HD 6850 / GTX 460 and you're set.
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-24 16:06:34
March 24 2012 16:05 GMT
#1522
On March 24 2012 23:32 J0llybally wrote:
Suggestion for upgrade/ add a graphics card ( basically im look for the right graphic cards and anything else need to play sc2 at Consistent 60 fps )(budget is about $200) specs below

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Intel Pentium E5200 @ 2.50GHz 36 °C
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Not going to happen without a new computer. Even the latest generation of processors overclocked can't quite manage a consistent 60 fps in late team game scenarios. Luckily, a consistent 60 fps isn't really needed for most people.

As to the above poster - core2duo can run SC2 well enough, but it won't handle 60fps except maybe at the beginning of a game when there aren't a bunch of units.
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
Drowzee
Profile Joined June 2011
40 Posts
March 25 2012 15:54 GMT
#1523
don't know if this is the correct thread to ask this question but i'll try it either way

i want to record audio from
a) stereomix (for example game sounds)
b) headset microphone (voice)
at the same time, in the same output file, for about ~4 hours.

which tool can i use to achieve this? i tried audacity but it didn't work for me because i wasn't able to record both at the same time.
Vexas
Profile Joined November 2010
United States98 Posts
March 25 2012 16:44 GMT
#1524
Recently I purchased an digital SC2 EU license from the bnet store and currently trying to install it on my PC. Regardless of what I do (rename the file, completely uninstall my NA copy of SC2 etc.) I cannot seem to get the install for my new EU license to go through. It gets stuck on 17/35k (soon as the install starts it stalls pretty much).

Has anyone else had this problem? If so could you explain why it is happening or more preferrably how to fix this? I would like to be able to play on the EU server soon!
"Sooner or later we're all someone's dog" ~Angua
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-25 20:22:32
March 25 2012 20:20 GMT
#1525
Currently my PC is really loud and it's because my H70's fan is hooked to the motherboard and spins at 100% speed non-stop. I'm looking for a quieter, yet decent fan to replace it. I was considering the Noctua NF-F12, are there other fans I should consider?

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=66920

Thanks.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
March 26 2012 04:28 GMT
#1526
I bought an EVGA GTX 560ti 448 Core (the one that's basically a cheaper GTX570) and after I bought it I learned that the GTX 560ti 448 Core was a limited edition card. I was hoping to SLI two years from now and now I know that it may not be possible until I buy another one soon. Is the "limited edition" part just marketing to get people to rush and buy the card during holiday season or is it actually limited supply? Or is it actually both?
Orek
Profile Joined February 2012
1665 Posts
March 26 2012 08:14 GMT
#1527
I found a possible glitch/bug in SC2 and made an extensive post about it with some others confirming it.

Larva disappearing Glitch (not about 20th larva)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=323422

I didn't know Tech Support existed until 10min before this writing.
I'm 90% positive that the post is in the right place there, but just wondering if Tech Support has anything to do with my subject. So, I decided to post the question here first. Thank you.
Rannasha
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands2398 Posts
March 26 2012 10:01 GMT
#1528
On March 26 2012 13:28 LoLAdriankat wrote:
I bought an EVGA GTX 560ti 448 Core (the one that's basically a cheaper GTX570) and after I bought it I learned that the GTX 560ti 448 Core was a limited edition card. I was hoping to SLI two years from now and now I know that it may not be possible until I buy another one soon. Is the "limited edition" part just marketing to get people to rush and buy the card during holiday season or is it actually limited supply? Or is it actually both?


I don't know how limited the 560 Ti 448 is, but in 2 years it won't be that interesting to SLI it. Even if you can still get these cards (which is not that certain), you'll almost always be better of just getting one of the latest generation to replace your current card.

SLI / Crossfire is almost only useful if you can't go higher up with single cards.
Such flammable little insects!
Wabbit
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1028 Posts
March 26 2012 14:47 GMT
#1529
On March 24 2012 15:57 AGIANTSMURF wrote:
I have an EVGA GTX 560

I think i need another fan to keep it cool (have had temps in mid 70's recently despite cleaning out dust) while playing SC2

Any cheap recommendations?


Mid 70's is fine. When you consistently hit/cross 90*C - that's when you should start worrying.
The answers to most of your Tech Support questions are in the OP. That's why you're not getting a reply. It's been answered before. Read the OP.
LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
March 26 2012 15:32 GMT
#1530
On March 26 2012 19:01 Rannasha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2012 13:28 LoLAdriankat wrote:
I bought an EVGA GTX 560ti 448 Core (the one that's basically a cheaper GTX570) and after I bought it I learned that the GTX 560ti 448 Core was a limited edition card. I was hoping to SLI two years from now and now I know that it may not be possible until I buy another one soon. Is the "limited edition" part just marketing to get people to rush and buy the card during holiday season or is it actually limited supply? Or is it actually both?


I don't know how limited the 560 Ti 448 is, but in 2 years it won't be that interesting to SLI it. Even if you can still get these cards (which is not that certain), you'll almost always be better of just getting one of the latest generation to replace your current card.

SLI / Crossfire is almost only useful if you can't go higher up with single cards.

Yeah, I did some more thinking after that post and I think I'll end up with a GTX 680.
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
March 26 2012 16:51 GMT
#1531
On March 26 2012 05:20 Djzapz wrote:
Currently my PC is really loud and it's because my H70's fan is hooked to the motherboard and spins at 100% speed non-stop. I'm looking for a quieter, yet decent fan to replace it. I was considering the Noctua NF-F12, are there other fans I should consider?

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=66920

Thanks.


noctua 120mm fans are nice but a bit overpriced. scyte slipstream have essentially the same performance. You dont mention this but why is it running at 100? Isnt it a pwm-fan? those are usually best to use in combination with a radiator slash heatsink. If you cant use pwm for some reason 500-800rpm fans are necessary to keep it quiet.
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
Wabbit
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1028 Posts
March 26 2012 17:04 GMT
#1532
How's the static pressure on the Slip Streams though? I wouldn't count on it being as good as the F12, though maybe not too far behind.

I've read lots of good things about the Cougar fans so if it were me I'd probably grab the Cougar instead of the Noctua. Or for slightly less, this Gelid seems good.
The answers to most of your Tech Support questions are in the OP. That's why you're not getting a reply. It's been answered before. Read the OP.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
March 26 2012 17:22 GMT
#1533
I'd be suggesting something in the x38mm range for a fan for a (ick) closed loop liquid cooler. Thicker fans will frequently have better static pressure amongst cheaper fans, and there's no reason to spend up on a high end fan for a shitty closed loop.
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-26 18:21:46
March 26 2012 18:20 GMT
#1534
On March 27 2012 01:51 Shauni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2012 05:20 Djzapz wrote:
Currently my PC is really loud and it's because my H70's fan is hooked to the motherboard and spins at 100% speed non-stop. I'm looking for a quieter, yet decent fan to replace it. I was considering the Noctua NF-F12, are there other fans I should consider?

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=66920

Thanks.


noctua 120mm fans are nice but a bit overpriced. scyte slipstream have essentially the same performance. You dont mention this but why is it running at 100? Isnt it a pwm-fan? those are usually best to use in combination with a radiator slash heatsink. If you cant use pwm for some reason 500-800rpm fans are necessary to keep it quiet.

Well I don't know if it's PWM, I just can't seem to adjust its speed anywhere. It doesn't react to speedfan for instance.

On March 27 2012 02:22 JingleHell wrote:
I'd be suggesting something in the x38mm range for a fan for a (ick) closed loop liquid cooler. Thicker fans will frequently have better static pressure amongst cheaper fans, and there's no reason to spend up on a high end fan for a shitty closed loop.

Eh I don't care about fancy fan, I just want a quiet thing that performs like my current leaf blower. Also not sure why it's a shitty closed loop, performs a tiny bit worse than most regular heatsinks at that price but since I carry it around a lot, I'd rather not have a massive hunk of metal hanging off the motherboard.

Not sure which specific fans are thick and quiet.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
March 26 2012 18:29 GMT
#1535
On March 27 2012 03:20 Djzapz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2012 01:51 Shauni wrote:
On March 26 2012 05:20 Djzapz wrote:
Currently my PC is really loud and it's because my H70's fan is hooked to the motherboard and spins at 100% speed non-stop. I'm looking for a quieter, yet decent fan to replace it. I was considering the Noctua NF-F12, are there other fans I should consider?

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=66920

Thanks.


noctua 120mm fans are nice but a bit overpriced. scyte slipstream have essentially the same performance. You dont mention this but why is it running at 100? Isnt it a pwm-fan? those are usually best to use in combination with a radiator slash heatsink. If you cant use pwm for some reason 500-800rpm fans are necessary to keep it quiet.

Well I don't know if it's PWM, I just can't seem to adjust its speed anywhere. It doesn't react to speedfan for instance.

Show nested quote +
On March 27 2012 02:22 JingleHell wrote:
I'd be suggesting something in the x38mm range for a fan for a (ick) closed loop liquid cooler. Thicker fans will frequently have better static pressure amongst cheaper fans, and there's no reason to spend up on a high end fan for a shitty closed loop.

Eh I don't care about fancy fan, I just want a quiet thing that performs like my current leaf blower. Also not sure why it's a shitty closed loop, performs a tiny bit worse than most regular heatsinks at that price but since I carry it around a lot, I'd rather not have a massive hunk of metal hanging off the motherboard.

Not sure which specific fans are thick and quiet.


You should be able to set the speed in BIOS somewhere.

As for noise and quality, that's why I said x38mm. Specifically meaning: most "standard" fans are 25mm thick. 38mm fans can move similar volumes of air at lower RPM, with higher static pressure (helps push air through a radiator). In other words, they're a little bigger, but they help cool your system, without being super expensive.

And the H100 is less shitty than most closed loops, but I consider all closed loop lquid coolers to be pure and utter shit. Even though the (couple of) not terrible ones perform roughly on par with a good heatsink, you have all the potential for breakdown that liquid comes with, the potential for a useless system if a pump breaks, all without the drastically better efficiency of a serious custom loop. For your specific use, moving it around a lot, I can see it as a reasonable option, but they're still just kind of ick.
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-26 20:31:28
March 26 2012 18:36 GMT
#1536
A serious custom loop costs over like $300 rather than the $70 I paid for this, not to mention the time it takes to put it together. But yeah there are many problems with closed water coolers. The leak part only happens to other people (^^), and if the pump breaks it'll take me like 20 minutes to pop in the stock heatsink while I wait for a replacement.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
TuckFexas
Profile Joined July 2011
United States154 Posts
March 26 2012 19:00 GMT
#1537
this one may not end up being so simple, but anyways

A friend of mine has been having problems with his computer going to a grey screen and freezing up while playing runescape/wow and it seems to be an on/off problem (as in it starts happening for a while then stopping, then when moving to a new game starts happening again). any ideas what could be causing this?
Texas is to f*cking hot.
wcLLg
Profile Joined December 2011
United States281 Posts
March 26 2012 19:11 GMT
#1538
How does the PHENOM II X6 1045 perform when overclocked compared to the PHENOM II X4 960T? And, how do they fair in games?
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Wabbit
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1028 Posts
March 26 2012 19:25 GMT
#1539
On March 27 2012 04:11 wcLLg wrote:
How does the PHENOM II X6 1045 perform when overclocked compared to the PHENOM II X4 960T? And, how do they fair in games?


Exact same architecture so at the same clocks they should perform identically (since most games only use at most 4 cores).

960T overclocks much higher and easier usually. It will fare OK in games but not something I'd buy over a current Intel chip in general, though there are certain situations where it would make sense.
The answers to most of your Tech Support questions are in the OP. That's why you're not getting a reply. It's been answered before. Read the OP.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
March 26 2012 19:42 GMT
#1540
On March 27 2012 03:36 Djzapz wrote:
A serious custom loop costs over like $300 rather than the $70 I paid for this, not to mention the time it takes together. But yeah there are many problems with water coolers. The leak part only happens to other people (^^), and if the pump breaks it'll take me like 20 minutes to pop in the stock heatsink while I wait for a replacement.


Well, yeah, I didn't say I suggest serious liquid cooling. Most people who have a real use for it would likely need to be asking their questions elsewhere, as well. While we've got some good people, we don't have a concentration of expertise in the enthusiast category, just some dabblers.

And not everybody keeps the stuff around that they'd need to swap out coolers in a pinch, along with not everyone having a case that makes it a simple process. Like I said, there's circumstances where it's functional, but I still have utter contempt for the things in general, as they tend to be a profiteering ploy most of the places they're used. ("Get LIQUID COOLING for only $100 extra, installed! Keep your PC safe with our EXTREME overclock, (only $250, tested and guaranteed!!)") type nonsense.
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