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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20322 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-10 15:41:55
November 10 2013 15:38 GMT
#8161
Really bad OC practice (to just randomly set to an offset - it's not even the same for everybody so it's worse than just copying settings)

You don't know what vcore your chip needs unless you use too little and fail a test or bluescreen. Look up an OC guide, go find the asus z77 one on www.overclock.net actually

Also there's nothing wrong with 1.3vcore on ivy bridge (the daring among us run 1.5) you just need to keep it cool

He's taken a bunch of settings, probably copied from somewhere, and then used that offset (+0.065v) on top of his CPU's VID to stabilize >his cpu< at that clockspeed. CPU quality (the clockspeed you can get at a given voltage) is very variable and VID which is used to determine voltage in offset mode is different on different CPU's, so you're basically rolling a dice by copying him, at worst it doesn't work or at best it's probably extremely suboptimal
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Eisregen
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany967 Posts
November 10 2013 15:50 GMT
#8162
On November 11 2013 00:38 Cyro wrote:
Really bad OC practice (to just randomly set to an offset - it's not even the same for everybody so it's worse than just copying settings)

You don't know what vcore your chip needs unless you use too little and fail a test or bluescreen. Look up an OC guide, go find the asus z77 one on www.overclock.net actually

Also there's nothing wrong with 1.3vcore on ivy bridge (the daring among us run 1.5) you just need to keep it cool

He's taken a bunch of settings, probably copied from somewhere, and then used that offset (+0.065v) on top of his CPU's VID to stabilize >his cpu< at that clockspeed. CPU quality (the clockspeed you can get at a given voltage) is very variable and VID which is used to determine voltage in offset mode is different on different CPU's, so you're basically rolling a dice by copying him, at worst it doesn't work or at best it's probably extremely suboptimal


Thanks for your detailed reply.
I didnt know where to start exactly and the Fixed Vcore OCing I did so far was rather unsuccessful (because most likely too low and/or bad settings). So I was kind of aware I copy specific settings of some dudes CPU. I will read thorugh the links and somehow try to find my sweetspot.
My tempeatures so far dont go over 61°C, but I dont heat at the moment...so not the best indicator.

The last time I did OCing was with my Phenom and that one limited me rather fast, or required insane amounts of voltage to gain 200MHz more (which was not worth it).
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20322 Posts
November 10 2013 16:02 GMT
#8163
Np and what mobo exactly + cooling is it? which asus board?
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Eisregen
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany967 Posts
November 10 2013 16:12 GMT
#8164
On November 11 2013 01:02 Cyro wrote:
Np and what mobo exactly + cooling is it? which asus board?


3570k + ASUS P8Z77-V LK + Scythe Mugen 3
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20322 Posts
November 10 2013 16:41 GMT
#8165
Just put something like second-highest level of LLC and see what multiplier you can do with 1.25vcore fixed. IBT with a lot of your RAM set is decent for very quick checking and prime nice for long stability testing
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Cheps
Profile Joined August 2010
United Arab Emirates197 Posts
November 11 2013 01:35 GMT
#8166
Easy and embarrassingly nooby question:

I currently have this ram (got it back in 2009 it was pretty good I believe; 6 gigs corsair dominator ram) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145224

I bought this ram the other day (G.skill 8 gigs of ram): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231689&nm_mc=TEMC-RMA-Approvel&cm_mmc=TEMC-RMA-Approvel-_-Content-_-text-_-

Can I just plug in the g.skill ram to the empty ram slots in my mobo (evga x58) and have 14 gigs and be good to go? Or will I have to take out the corsair ram and put in g skill and only have 8 gigs total?

Other potentially relevant info:

i7 920 processor
evga x58 mobo
corsair 750 wat psup

Thanks in advance tech support!
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 11 2013 01:46 GMT
#8167
You can just plug it in, they're just going to run at 1600MHz.
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
November 11 2013 01:49 GMT
#8168
I would try to add it in empty slots.

You should try just staying with the timings and speed of your old memory sticks. Those will probably just work with the new sticks. Don't forget to run at least a simple memory test like the one that's built into Windows 7 or 8. You'll get to that one if you search for "memory problem" in the Control Panel. It will want to restart your PC to check.

You made a slight mistake by the way. Your CPU has three memory channels. This means it can access up to three memory sticks at the same time. That's why your old kit had three sticks. The new kit is intended for a CPU with two memory channels. That's why it's only two sticks.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
Cheps
Profile Joined August 2010
United Arab Emirates197 Posts
November 11 2013 01:58 GMT
#8169
Cool. Ya'll are awesome. Thanks!

IMKR
Profile Joined August 2012
United States378 Posts
November 11 2013 02:46 GMT
#8170
For the holiday game bundle going on with the GTX 600 and 700 series, is the games NOT on steam?

I hear its on somethign called "UPlay"
Can i not use the codes for steam? if i cant, well that sucks because i was looking to buy the gtx due to the holiday bundle.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20322 Posts
November 11 2013 02:48 GMT
#8171
uplay is terrible

I've not taken like an hour of messing around with emails and accounts and codes to redeem a game before. I'd be better off just buying the damn thing because time is money anyway
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 11 2013 02:51 GMT
#8172
The keys are for Uplay only.
IMKR
Profile Joined August 2012
United States378 Posts
November 11 2013 11:01 GMT
#8173
Well i guess buying a GTX series for the holiday bundle is off for me then.


becuase i was planning on getting either 660, 660 ti, or the 760 over AMD becuase the holiday bundle theoretically makes the GTX series cheaper.

BUT, if i am correct, the AMD counterpart is better for each 600 and 700 series for GTX right?
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20322 Posts
November 11 2013 11:21 GMT
#8174
Depends on prices, uses, and how much you value shadowplay vs mantle (or gsync/true audio)
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
November 11 2013 23:46 GMT
#8175
Alright guys i need some help!
I just updated to win 8.1 last night. Went to go check it out today and skype can only be open for like 4 seconds before it force closes. The other problems i have noticed so far is that my touchpad speed is much lower than before, as well as side scrolling and up and down scrolling have been disabled.

Please help!

Thanks
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 11 2013 23:52 GMT
#8176
Skype crashing on 8.1 is a common problem. Lots of reported workarounds such as disabling webcam, disabling IGP, removing certain updates, etc.
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
November 12 2013 00:02 GMT
#8177
how do i return my system setting back to before i downloaded windows 8.1?
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 12 2013 00:16 GMT
#8178
Restore point maybe?
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13389 Posts
November 12 2013 21:50 GMT
#8179
On November 11 2013 20:01 IMKR wrote:
Well i guess buying a GTX series for the holiday bundle is off for me then.


becuase i was planning on getting either 660, 660 ti, or the 760 over AMD becuase the holiday bundle theoretically makes the GTX series cheaper.

BUT, if i am correct, the AMD counterpart is better for each 600 and 700 series for GTX right?


I dont see why you hate on uplay. Even if you buy those games through steam you still get a uplay key to add into uplay. And free games are free games. I was planning on getting both of them eventually. So that being said I have a 650ti which of the cards is it worth upgrading to if I dont want to spend the crazy 300+ on the super bundle cards.I still might wait a few months and catch them on a price drop though.
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20322 Posts
November 12 2013 22:39 GMT
#8180
I dont see why you hate on uplay. Even if you buy those games through steam you still get a uplay key to add into uplay.


It just took me and a friend literally like 20 minutes to redeem a key that was worth $5 anyway. Almost cheaper and easier to go earn the money then buy it on Steam (which i don't particularly like but can go from google to downloading game within 20 seconds)
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
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