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IMKR
Profile Joined August 2012
United States378 Posts
November 09 2013 02:55 GMT
#8141
Not sure where to post this so posting it here.

At my moms house, the modem is currently in her room. (the 3rd floor).
my brother's room is in the 1st floor, and I will be building a pc for him during winter break when i get home.
when the pc is done, he wants to move the modem to his room so he can use the internet, (IK u can use wireless adapters and such so that'll be last option)
However, according to my mom, she is saying that since the modem was fixed to her room, along with the initial installation from the technician to attach the signal to her room, you CANT move the modem to another room.

Is this true? AFAIK, you can move the modem around to other rooms, (i do so in my apartment, but its only 1 floor so i dont know how different floors affect it) but she keeps saying its not possible, because the signal that the tech does from outside the house is set up to her room, and only with the help of a technician along with additional charges, can they be moved.

soooooo, is it okay to move the modem from her room down to the first floor of my bros room?

i called the internet provider, but they are clueless at their job ...... seriously they were starting to piss me off. Had to transfer to me 3 "levels" of support and they still say "i am sorry but i do not know the answer to that question, we can send out a technician to help solve the problem." its as if they are trying to keep stealing money anyway possible. ....
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 09 2013 03:08 GMT
#8142
That would depend on the connection type and house?

Old phone wiring (3 wires) won't work with VDSL2 afaik as it requires four wires so moving it to your room would require some simple rewiring.

ADSL2, you can move the modem around since it's just using the phone wiring.

Cable, you would need a coxial jack so if you don't have one in your room than you would need to route coxial to it.
IMKR
Profile Joined August 2012
United States378 Posts
November 09 2013 05:00 GMT
#8143
On November 09 2013 12:08 skyR wrote:
That would depend on the connection type and house?

Old phone wiring (3 wires) won't work with VDSL2 afaik as it requires four wires so moving it to your room would require some simple rewiring.

ADSL2, you can move the modem around since it's just using the phone wiring.

Cable, you would need a coxial jack so if you don't have one in your room than you would need to route coxial to it.



its from comcast.
and i think its just the cable.

not phone connection.

so afaik, like you said, i think the only requirement is to have that weird spiky round jack. (i thnik like u said its the coxial jack?)

skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 09 2013 05:07 GMT
#8144
Just keep the modem in her room and route ethernet to your brother's. Less expensive and much easier.
IMKR
Profile Joined August 2012
United States378 Posts
November 09 2013 05:30 GMT
#8145
I don't know what that means.
Is it like getting a long cable?
My mom's room is on the 3rd floor and his is in the 1st floor
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 09 2013 06:05 GMT
#8146
You drill some holes, route cable through your walls, and install a jack. If you want to do it the ghetto way than you can just route it down the stairs and tape it to the side of the walls.
IMKR
Profile Joined August 2012
United States378 Posts
November 09 2013 07:42 GMT
#8147
yup, no way in hell my mother would let me drill holes in her wall for this lol.

also how is this less expensive and easier than just moving the router to my bros room?

my mom doesnt use the internet at all, theres no point in it being in her room.

she's just against it atm cuz she thinks we have to call in a tech to do it for us, and have to pay for the service.

If she knows it safe and okay to move the modem downstairs, she'll let me. (she's a very stubborn person)
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-09 08:06:51
November 09 2013 08:05 GMT
#8148
Well your brother's room has no coaxial jack so how exactly do you plan on plugging in the modem...?
IMKR
Profile Joined August 2012
United States378 Posts
November 09 2013 10:37 GMT
#8149
??? i didnt say there was none.
i just asked is that the only requirement and that as far as i know it is, but was asking you to make sure
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
November 09 2013 18:04 GMT
#8150
mouse freezing up since a few days ago, tried all the normal crap fix the problem. uninstalling drivers, trying different USB slots etc. the computer stays functional (apart from the mouse obviously) just fine and the mouse isnt losing power, any suggestions on what to do next to resolve the issue?
mantequilla
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Turkey781 Posts
November 09 2013 20:06 GMT
#8151
Is there a site that we can bet on Starcraft 2 matches?
Age of Mythology forever!
Bleak
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Turkey3059 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-09 20:17:36
November 09 2013 20:15 GMT
#8152
On November 07 2013 15:49 skyR wrote:
Ivybridge is the newest that is supported on H61. Haswell will require a brand new motherboard.

It is best if you do a fresh installation though not entirely necessary.


If I get a motherboard that supports Haswell, and want to use my old HDD and Windows on the same machine, what do I need to do? The old HDD won't have the new CPU's drivers, so I guess it just won't boot? In that case, if Windows doesn't start, how do I reinstall the Windows on my old HDD? Just put the DVD as the computer starts up? I am really confused as what to do regarding this.

In any case I am going to reinstall my retail Windows 7 anyway. The last time I installed it, it was on a fresh HDD with no OS installed. How do you reinstall in my situation?

Much thanks for answers.
"I am a beacon of knowledge blazing out across a black sea of ignorance. "
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
November 09 2013 20:37 GMT
#8153
There is a key you can hit to get a list of drives to boot from when you start your PC. Hit that key and select the DVD drive in that list. You might also be able to access that list from within the BIOS if you don't know that key and it's not shown on screen.

The installation program has a screen where you select your target for installation. That same screen has options to delete partitions and turn it into an empty drive, I think. You can also access the normal Windows disk management program to do something more complicated to the disks and partitions. I don't remember exactly how to access it, but I think it was not that hard to find. Maybe google for screenshots where to click exactly.

Windows 7 and 8 should manage to still work after you change major parts like motherboard. Windows will detect this, booting will take a bit longer than normal while you will see some sort of message on screen. At that moment, it will do the same it does at the end of a normal installation, search for devices and install drivers. It has a complete copy of the installation disc somewhere in the Windows folder to do that. So you don't have to necessarily install from scratch, but you should probably do it to know everything is as clean as it can be regarding old drivers.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
Bleak
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Turkey3059 Posts
November 09 2013 20:47 GMT
#8154
On November 10 2013 05:37 Ropid wrote:
There is a key you can hit to get a list of drives to boot from when you start your PC. Hit that key and select the DVD drive in that list. You might also be able to access that list from within the BIOS if you don't know that key and it's not shown on screen.

The installation program has a screen where you select your target for installation. That same screen has options to delete partitions and turn it into an empty drive, I think. You can also access the normal Windows disk management program to do something more complicated to the disks and partitions. I don't remember exactly how to access it, but I think it was not that hard to find. Maybe google for screenshots where to click exactly.

Windows 7 and 8 should manage to still work after you change major parts like motherboard. Windows will detect this, booting will take a bit longer than normal while you will see some sort of message on screen. At that moment, it will do the same it does at the end of a normal installation, search for devices and install drivers. It has a complete copy of the installation disc somewhere in the Windows folder to do that. So you don't have to necessarily install from scratch, but you should probably do it to know everything is as clean as it can be regarding old drivers.


Hmm...but I will change pretty much everything.. GPU, CPU, RAM, MOBO...Windows 7 can still start with all this major change?

If it starts anyway, I can use the option under Control Panel to reinstall Windows anyway. Once I'm through that, I think I won't have any problems besides getting my current Windows key to work on new system. Maybe I'll have to phone Windows support for that.
"I am a beacon of knowledge blazing out across a black sea of ignorance. "
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
November 09 2013 21:45 GMT
#8155
On November 10 2013 05:47 Bleak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 05:37 Ropid wrote:
There is a key you can hit to get a list of drives to boot from when you start your PC. Hit that key and select the DVD drive in that list. You might also be able to access that list from within the BIOS if you don't know that key and it's not shown on screen.

The installation program has a screen where you select your target for installation. That same screen has options to delete partitions and turn it into an empty drive, I think. You can also access the normal Windows disk management program to do something more complicated to the disks and partitions. I don't remember exactly how to access it, but I think it was not that hard to find. Maybe google for screenshots where to click exactly.

Windows 7 and 8 should manage to still work after you change major parts like motherboard. Windows will detect this, booting will take a bit longer than normal while you will see some sort of message on screen. At that moment, it will do the same it does at the end of a normal installation, search for devices and install drivers. It has a complete copy of the installation disc somewhere in the Windows folder to do that. So you don't have to necessarily install from scratch, but you should probably do it to know everything is as clean as it can be regarding old drivers.


Hmm...but I will change pretty much everything.. GPU, CPU, RAM, MOBO...Windows 7 can still start with all this major change?

If it starts anyway, I can use the option under Control Panel to reinstall Windows anyway. Once I'm through that, I think I won't have any problems besides getting my current Windows key to work on new system. Maybe I'll have to phone Windows support for that.


I had to phone Microsoft for that, but it was not the support line. It was some special phone number that Windows told me for my country when I clicked on that message about failed activation. You will talk to a machine, not a person.

I think the installation disc does not really do anything special for different computers. It just copies an image of Windows prepared by Microsoft engineers onto a drive. That Windows image then fends for itself after the first reboot, detects devices by itself and installs drivers. That's why it can still run if you change everything about your computer. This was different in the past on Windows XP.

You should do a clean installation to get the original registry and settings back. You will also have all your old computer's devices installed but disabled if you don't do that. You can see that in the device manager if you click on "show hidden devices" in the menu. I don't know if that is bad.

If you don't delete all partitions when doing a new installation, there will be stuff of your old Windows remaining on the C: drive. That's why it's probably better to boot from the DVD and delete C: and let the installation program create a completely empty new volume.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
Flaiker
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany235 Posts
November 09 2013 23:46 GMT
#8156
Looking into buying some new monitors. I currently have this one: LG W2361V
What do you think about this one? http://geizhals.at/de/dell-professional-p2214h-861-bbbo-a997586.html
I want to use Dual Monitor (or even 3?) setup but not with different ones so i would sell my current one and buy two or three new ones. Thoughts?
Also do I need to keep in mind that my gfx card can handle it or is expanded desktop not very stressful? I have a AMD XFX HD 5870 1GB atm.
...
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 10 2013 00:14 GMT
#8157
The new Dell professional line is good. 5870 only supports two monitors via DVI so you will need an active displayport adapter for the third monitor.
Flaiker
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany235 Posts
November 10 2013 09:30 GMT
#8158
On November 10 2013 09:14 skyR wrote:
The new Dell professional line is good. 5870 only supports two monitors via DVI so you will need an active displayport adapter for the third monitor.

Thanks. I also have a TV connected via HDMI so that would make 4 monitors at max. I could just use my i5 3570k onboard HDMI port for that one though right? And maybe even the third monitor? Or is it a problem for expanded desktop if I mix the output devices?
...
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17281 Posts
November 10 2013 11:11 GMT
#8159
You can mix them. I don't know if there are any particular restrictions on using both with your hardware, but mine does it without issue (3770k / ASRock OC Formula Pro).
twitch.tv/cratonz
Eisregen
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany967 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-10 15:36:19
November 10 2013 15:35 GMT
#8160
I OC'd my 3570K now via Offset (+0.065) according to this video to 4.2 instead of 4.4.GHz:
+ Show Spoiler +


While stress tested my CPU in prime, the VCore is around insane 1.3V...is this video so bad or is my CPU maybe from a insane bad batch for OC?

I'd love to stay below 1.2V vcore actually...
Photo-Noob@ http://www.flickr.com/photos/eisregen1983/
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