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da_head
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3350 Posts
November 13 2013 02:35 GMT
#8181
What's the best router i can get for $100 (cad). I have access to ncix, canadacomputers, newegg or any of the usual retail stores. I have rogers (ew) internet with 25/2. I live in a 4000sq house and the modem is downstairs while most of the computers are upstairs.
When they see MC Probe, all the ladies disrobe.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
November 13 2013 03:22 GMT
#8182
Comcast 25 mbps cable doesn't cut it for SC2 ping when roommate is online on his computer streaming music/watching netflix/DLing porn/whatever. Increase to 50 mpbs service will improve this?
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20322 Posts
November 13 2013 03:27 GMT
#8183
sc2 will use like less than 1% of that bandwidth. If it's not fine on a 1mbit line with somebody else using 90% it won't be fine on 50
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-13 03:39:33
November 13 2013 03:39 GMT
#8184
I think the same. There's something fundamental being off regarding your connection and downloads plus SC2, and increasing it to something more expensive while still staying on the exact same technology will probably not help.

Can you see if you router has some sort of QoS = Quality-of-Service options? You might be able to improve things through that. You could put your whole PC on higher priority (or maybe just SC2 if you find out how to do that).
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17269 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-13 04:14:28
November 13 2013 04:13 GMT
#8185
Eh, it really depends. Residential grade routers are pretty much shit when it comes to traffic prioritization (i.e. QoS), even when configured. If the usage eclipses (or comes close to) the bandwidth you have, any real-time traffic will suffer noticeably.

Pretty much the only thing that should cap a 25 mbps line is unthrottled torrents or downloading from Microsoft / Steam. If it's a regular occurrence, it's not going to be MS/Steam. WATCHING streaming music / video does not use that much bandwidth. SENDING streaming video will use comparatively a lot more bandwidth, since Comcast (assuming nothing has changed) measures your usage as a percentage of the whole, so 50% of your up eats 50% of your down). Even then, you shouldn't have an issue.

If you upgrade, unthrottled torrents will STILL eat the entire connection.

Cap that shit low.
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Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-13 21:15:56
November 13 2013 19:56 GMT
#8186
Is Twitch just straight up broken for anyone else? I can watch streams on TL via the sidebar but as soon as I try to go to the site is does not work at all anymore (Site will either not load or load without CSS, making it useless). If I try and use the pop up chat on here it also does not load. It was working as of about 14 hours ago.

I've tried multiple computers running Windows 7, Mac OS X 10.9, Fedora Linux 19, and Linux Mint 15, all fully patched. I've tried on Safari, Chrome, Firefox, and *shudder* IE. I've reset my router and everything.

Very strange. If this keeps up I will call my ISP. It's weird because it was working perfectly fine last night.

Edit: now it straight up doesn't work at all. It is definitely my connection because I can access the sites if I tether my phone to either of my machines and use that connection.
"Cliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide" -Tastosis
[MD]Frostbite
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Canada292 Posts
November 14 2013 01:26 GMT
#8187
Which is better

http://www.microbytes.com/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=3&products_id=43155&osCsid=aa0d6fbec10884b90c7ba47c93f7682c

or

http://www.microbytes.com/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=3&products_id=43576&osCsid=aa0d6fbec10884b90c7ba47c93f7682c
White-Ra, the godfather Protoss
Rollin
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia1552 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-14 02:34:06
November 14 2013 02:33 GMT
#8188
On November 14 2013 10:26 GalDiator wrote:
Which is better

http://www.microbytes.com/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=3&products_id=43155&osCsid=aa0d6fbec10884b90c7ba47c93f7682c

or

http://www.microbytes.com/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=3&products_id=43576&osCsid=aa0d6fbec10884b90c7ba47c93f7682c

Both will browse the internet fine, and both won't play games at all.

What are you using it for, a portable workstation?
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[MD]Frostbite
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Canada292 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-14 03:29:36
November 14 2013 03:28 GMT
#8189
On November 14 2013 10:26 GalDiator wrote:Which is betterhttp://www.microbytes.com/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=3&products_id=43155&osCsid=aa0d6fbec10884b90c7ba47c93f7682corhttp://www.microbytes.com/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=3&products_id=43576&osCsid=aa0d6fbec10884b90c7ba47c93f7682cBoth will browse the internet fine, and both won't play games at all.What are you using it for, a portable workstation?


Wanted to use it for gaming but it seems its bad

And when you say wont play games at all what do you mean. I.E at min graphics how will be the average fps while playing SC?

My current pc plays SC at min graphics at about ~18fps. Around 25 at beginning and close to 15 over ~75 supple for me

Ill add the specs later
White-Ra, the godfather Protoss
Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-14 14:39:21
November 14 2013 03:32 GMT
#8190
Hmm this internet issue is not just twitch. There are a few sites I cannot access for some reason now. Pinging Twitch is resulting in 100% packet loss. On my Windows machine I have tried going through a static IP, flushing the DNS, and a few other things and none of it has worked. Weirdest yet, I cannot even access my ISP's site and pinging it also nets me 100% packet loss.

I swear I am going to switch providers. This type of stuff has been happening on and off for a couple months now. They redid all the infrastructure going to my house back 6 months ago and it worked great for a while but now it is awful.

Edit: Well, I woke up this morning and now it everything is working again...

They gotta get this under control.
"Cliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide" -Tastosis
gForce.
Profile Joined January 2010
United Kingdom345 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-16 14:58:53
November 16 2013 14:58 GMT
#8191
I have a 4GB G-skill 8-8-8-24 v1.5 1333 RAM memory, I'm looking for an upgrade up to 8GB or more however I want to reuse to current RAM as I wish to save some money, unfortunately I cannot purchase exactly same RAM memory as I have now since its unavailable, would a 9-9-9-24 v1.5 1333/1600 memory be compatible with the current memory or would I experience issues such as slow downs or memory not being detected.
TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
November 16 2013 15:55 GMT
#8192
Alright, so I am looking into getting a new monitor. My current one has begun to overheat (didn't occur to me that a monitor could really do that) and is on its way out.

I am looking to spend about $200 +- $20 for at least 27" and 1080p and have narrowed it down to a couple of possibilities so far.
http://www.amazon.com/BenQ-GW2750HM-27-Inch-LED-lit-Monitor/dp/B007HSKSP0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1384616532&sr=8-1&keywords=GW2750HM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824254093

Are these good? Are there better options out there? Should I risk having no computer to use and wait for black friday?
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-16 16:55:40
November 16 2013 16:54 GMT
#8193
If you want 27" at that kind of price and don't want to wait, the GW2750HM is probably the most recommendable.

That is, unless you're pretty sensitive to motion blurring and play fast-panning games all the time.

Review here:
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/benq_gw2750hm.htm

Other alternatives pretty much all use TN panels in that price range. TN panel color shifting (even while looking straight on) can be distracting to many people, especially at that larger monitor size, unless you're sitting far back from the screen. And that defeats the purpose of getting a large screen, unless it was just to make stuff readable from farther away because of reasons x/y/z that it can't be placed closer to where you sit?

The BenQ uses a *VA with mediocre viewing angles (better than TN) and slowish response times (though many previous models were significantly worse) but good contrast.
TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
November 16 2013 17:21 GMT
#8194
This is what I am changing from: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824005142

Would the motion blurring be roughly comparable? Oh, I forgot it also had to have HDMI input since it is going to be used for my PS3 as well.
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-16 19:06:18
November 16 2013 19:02 GMT
#8195
On November 16 2013 23:58 gForce. wrote:
I have a 4GB G-skill 8-8-8-24 v1.5 1333 RAM memory, I'm looking for an upgrade up to 8GB or more however I want to reuse to current RAM as I wish to save some money, unfortunately I cannot purchase exactly same RAM memory as I have now since its unavailable, would a 9-9-9-24 v1.5 1333/1600 memory be compatible with the current memory or would I experience issues such as slow downs or memory not being detected.

Did you try eBay? You might find someone selling exactly your memory kit. There's nothing bad about buying used RAM. Many manufacturers, including G.Skill, trust their stuff enough to give lifetime warranty.

If you buy another kit, it will work. You might have to switch the sticks around if it does not want to run stable. There's a whole bunch of secondary timings that are usually not mentioned anywhere, are just inside the memory profile that comes on a chip on the sticks. I think you have to set things up so that the BIOS will find and use the timings of the slower kit first.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
November 17 2013 00:09 GMT
#8196
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834231324&nm_mc=EMC-EXPRESS111613&cm_mmc=EMC-EXPRESS111613-_-EMC-111613-Index-_-MTFootrest-_-34231324-L02A

will this be able to play dota/xcom well? is it a good deal considering there is a 10% off coupon from newegg right now?
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20322 Posts
November 17 2013 00:27 GMT
#8197
^Low power CPU, 2 cores & integrated graphics (which are held back by the same tdp) so pretty terrible
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
z0rz
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States350 Posts
November 17 2013 00:56 GMT
#8198
If you care about gaming at all, you probably want to stay away from Ultrabooks unless you absolutely NEED the extra portability/battery life (which are 100% counterproductive to gaming). Basically avoid any CPU with the letter U in the name (i7-3517U) -- they're made to run at lower voltages, which is nice for battery longevity, but it also means less horsepower.

Basically think of it as a hybrid motor vs. a V8 -- one is made to save gas, one is made to kick ass.
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Rollin
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia1552 Posts
November 17 2013 01:41 GMT
#8199
The U models cannot run the cpu and gpu properly at the same time due to tdp constraints. Find a haswell/ivy full voltage part and dota 2 would work on lower settings. If you mean wc3 dota, then it's fine though (wc3 doesn't need any gpu power so it's not an issue). Dunno about xcom though.
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20322 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-17 02:38:45
November 17 2013 02:37 GMT
#8200
Not really sure so i'll ask: Is the iGPU throttled to stay within 17w tdp (shared with the CPU)?

That's such a ridiculously little amount of power, if you consider a desktop Haswell i5 quad paired with a lowish end GPU will operate on ~84w and ~90w tdp's for removing turbo's (174w between them, an entire order of magnitude more power)

Clock Speed 1.9 GHz
Max Turbo Frequency 3 GHz


Processor Graphics ‡ Intel® HD Graphics 4000
Graphics Base Frequency 350 MHz
Graphics Max Dynamic Frequency 1.15 GHz


Kinda brutal to be locked at base speeds, they're scarily low
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
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