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Craton
United States17274 Posts
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Bleak
Turkey3059 Posts
1) I own a MSI H61M-P21 motherboard. Should I go for Ivy Brdg 4 core or something newer? Can this mobo support that? 2) If I change my CPU and RAM will I need to reinstall my Windows 7 home premium? Ty for answers. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
It is best if you do a fresh installation though not entirely necessary. | ||
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Bleak
Turkey3059 Posts
On November 07 2013 15:49 skyR wrote: Ivybridge is the newest that is supported on H61. Haswell will require a brand new motherboard. It is best if you do a fresh installation though not entirely necessary. Thanks. I will check Ivy Bridge. Regarding my 2nd question, what I meant was that whether my retail copy of Win7 would need reactivation or not upon installing a new CPU and and RAM (maybe even a GPU) | ||
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
About your motherboard, you have to make sure your motherboard's BIOS can support the new CPU. You might have to update to a newer BIOS while you still have the old CPU installed. Go to the support webpage of your motherboard and see what new BIOS versions there are. Look for "ivy bridge support" or similar being mentioned on one of the updates. | ||
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Bleak
Turkey3059 Posts
On November 07 2013 18:41 Ropid wrote: That might happen, but it's not a problem. Windows will guide you how to go about activation in that case. It will tell you a free phone number for your country and you will speak to a robot if you call that. The process involves typing numbers you'll get shown on screen into the phone's keypad, and typing numbers the robot tells you on the phone on your PC. About your motherboard, you have to make sure your motherboard's BIOS can support the new CPU. You might have to update to a newer BIOS while you still have the old CPU installed. Go to the support webpage of your motherboard and see what new BIOS versions there are. Look for "ivy bridge support" or similar being mentioned on one of the updates. I checked and there is an update for Ivy Bridge compatibility, however it says that if you don't use an Ivy Bridge processor, it is recommended not to install it. Could it cause problems if I install it on Sandy Bridge processor system and then upgrade to Ivy Bridge? | ||
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
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mihajovics
179 Posts
Will there be any advances (or probable price drops) that would warrant the wait? | ||
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tshi
United States2495 Posts
Sorry, I dont know where to ask this question, haha. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20322 Posts
On November 08 2013 01:48 mihajovics wrote: I have the option of buying a budget (700USD) gaming PC either this year December or next year March. Will there be any advances (or probable price drops) that would warrant the wait? Depends what kind of specs you're looking at, and if you're buying a prebuilt or buying yourself. Also, the kind of money you want to spend ("i have $700"? "i want to spend up to $700 but less if possible for X purposes"? "$700 baseline"?) Kaveri drops around February, we should have good performance numbers before then, but it should be best stuff available and a reasonable improvement for an APU build, if you're fine with a (very cheap and cost effective) quad core CPU and ok-ish GPU. If you wanna cut money and run most stuff good at lower settings, that's relevant. If you're going for an i5 build, probably not much will change in the next few months. That's better, higher tier, but more expensive to get a better CPU and a good standalone graphics card On November 08 2013 05:28 tshi wrote: I dont know if it's related but I'm just wondering how come there isn't a compiled list/thread of recommended software by people who are knowledgeable about computers on this forum. Like, "Image viewing - ______", "Mass Renaming - _____". General stuff like that? Sorry, I dont know where to ask this question, haha. There's a few in the build resource thread, but not a lot of stuff | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On November 08 2013 05:28 tshi wrote: I dont know if it's related but I'm just wondering how come there isn't a compiled list/thread of recommended software by people who are knowledgeable about computers on this forum. Like, "Image viewing - ______", "Mass Renaming - _____". General stuff like that? Sorry, I dont know where to ask this question, haha. Ninite has most of the popular / good basic utility software. | ||
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mihajovics
179 Posts
On November 08 2013 05:32 Cyro wrote: Depends what kind of specs you're looking at, and if you're buying a prebuilt or buying yourself. Also, the kind of money you want to spend ("i have $700"? "i want to spend up to $700 but less if possible for X purposes"? "$700 baseline"?) Kaveri drops around February, we should have good performance numbers before then, but it should be best stuff available and a reasonable improvement for an APU build, if you're fine with a (very cheap and cost effective) quad core CPU and ok-ish GPU. If you wanna cut money and run most stuff good at lower settings, that's relevant. If you're going for an i5 build, probably not much will change in the next few months. That's better, higher tier, but more expensive to get a better CPU and a good standalone graphics card thx for the info! isn't this for the build resource thread? well here you go anyway: 700 baseline with 750 max if I can gain something critical with it, like squeezing in a significantly better VGA or something... (this is without a monitor etc. and i'm a DIY kind of guy, definitely not prebuilt) basically i'm aiming for the cheapest option that can play future games for a couple of years on at least 1600x900 (don't care about high settings), oh and 4v4 max army legacy of the void 60+ fps would be nice  that's why I was wondering if there is any known big architectural changes in CPUs or VGAs that I should be aware of. I'll check out this Kaveri thing, might be good enough for me. | ||
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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
I'm not exactly literate when it comes to interpret bluescreens, but i suspect that this is hard drive related. Although the WD diagnosis tool couldn't figure anything out. I also ran memtest which didn't produce any bad results , either. Temperature of everything also seems okay. Bluescreen info: ![[image loading]](http://www.imagebanana.com/view/jpqslxhe/20131107_223024.jpg) | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20322 Posts
On November 08 2013 06:48 mihajovics wrote: thx for the info! isn't this for the build resource thread? well here you go anyway: 700 baseline with 750 max if I can gain something critical with it, like squeezing in a significantly better VGA or something... (this is without a monitor etc. and i'm a DIY kind of guy, definitely not prebuilt) basically i'm aiming for the cheapest option that can play future games for a couple of years on at least 1600x900 (don't care about high settings), oh and 4v4 max army legacy of the void 60+ fps would be nice that's why I was wondering if there is any known big architectural changes in CPUs or VGAs that I should be aware of. I'll check out this Kaveri thing, might be good enough for me. Sc2 is poorly optimized and extremely CPU bound, so you might wanna grab i5 and a midrange graphics card and do CPU overclock. 2v2-4v4 high supply is something that's messy regardless of what happens, but it's still waaay waay better if you have a good setup, i actually find it happens more often in 2v2 because if you don't do some kind of heavy pressure or all in and you don't die, it's very easy for all four players to take a base or two each and max by like 15 mins, happens in a surprising number of games On November 08 2013 08:04 Nyxisto wrote: Okay, since a few weeks my computer has this nasty habit of not responding for about a minute. I can move the mouse and continue skype conversations, but i can't close or start any applications. Most of the time my computer will just continue usually after these hick-ups, but sometimes i'll get a bluescreen directly afterwards. I'm not exactly literate when it comes to interpret bluescreens, but i suspect that this is hard drive related. Although the WD diagnosis tool couldn't figure anything out. I also ran memtest which didn't produce any bad results , either. Temperature of everything also seems okay. Bluescreen info: System specs would be helpful | ||
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
Does that tool you use show SMART data? There's various error counts in that data. When the drive detects a surface error, what happens looks a bit like what you describe. The drive will freeze while it tries to save the data from the broken sector. It will then increase the "reallocated sector" or "uncorrectable error" counts in that SMART data. I don't know what the blue screen means. A simple program that shows SMART data is "defraggler". It also has a portable version in a zip file that you won't have to install on your Windows. Go to the "health" tab. Something else might be broken. You could try a different SATA cable if you have one, and you can try to plug it into the second SATA port and leave the first one empty.. I don't know how best to experiment with the drive to see if it really is failing. You can run "chkdsk /f c:" on an Admin command prompt window. It will ask you if you want to schedule a check for the next Windows restart. That might be a bit dangerous without backup if your drive really is failing. If you add another "/r" parameter to chkdsk, I think it will go and try to read all files. This will take forever. | ||
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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
Okay: Intel Q2Q6600@3ghz Radeon HD 6870 1gig ddr-5 4 GB of Kingston Ram 5-5-5-18 Asus P5Q-Pro 700W BeQuiet power supply 2xWestern Digital WD5000HHTZ 500 GB Does that tool you use show SMART data? Yes, the diagnosis tool thinks the SMART status is okay. | ||
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birdaholic
United States67 Posts
I currently have 2 x 4GB with a model Cmz4gx3m1a1600c9 ebay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Corsair-Cmz4gx3m1a1600c9-Ram-Module-4-Gb-1-X-4-Gb-Ddr3-Sdram-1600-Mhz-/331052764971?pt=US_Memory_RAM_&hash=item4d14484f2b I want to add another 2 x 4gb with model CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B ebay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/161140550027 they are both corsair brand. Can I mix up this two? my motherboard is a dual-chanel ga-970a-ud3 fx-8150 | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
On November 08 2013 18:28 birdaholic wrote: Can I mix two different RAM model of same brand? I currently have 2 x 4GB with a model Cmz4gx3m1a1600c9 ebay: I want to add another 2 x 4gb with model CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B ebay: they are both corsair brand. Can I mix up this two? my motherboard is a dual-chanel ga-970a-ud3 fx-8150 Yep, looks fine | ||
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domane
Canada1606 Posts
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