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Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
November 02 2013 17:15 GMT
#8081
Yeah going on my 2kro Filco you do have a 1a2a3a issue if you don't release 1 before hitting 2.

Never really been an issue for me but I don't push apm that far.
Eisregen
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany967 Posts
November 03 2013 00:39 GMT
#8082
Thanks SkyR and Ropid!

Fuck knows what I did right after 7attempts to install Windows from my USB3.0 stick, but with the 8th attempt, that was the fastes Windows Install I ever did in my whole life...HOLY COW
Photo-Noob@ http://www.flickr.com/photos/eisregen1983/
scDeluX
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada1341 Posts
November 03 2013 01:06 GMT
#8083
Why are some category crossed and how can I activate them? Checking them and saving isn't working. Thanks.

[image loading]
Brood War is forever
mantequilla
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Turkey779 Posts
November 03 2013 01:12 GMT
#8084
What is the difference between 4gb and 8gbs of ram in regards or performance? It only matters if you are running many programs at once right?
Age of Mythology forever!
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
November 03 2013 01:33 GMT
#8085
4GB is usually enough for every single program. If you run out of RAM, performance will nosedive as Windows will start to use the SSD/HDD to keep working, so you will notice that you need more RAM.

After you quit a program that used a lot of RAM or want to multi-task while it's running, Windows will often revert to being kind of slow like after start up. It will have thrown a lot of stuff out of RAM to make room for the program and will need to reload that again. That's something that can happen even if the 4GB are enough for what you do.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
HelpMeGetBetter
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
United States764 Posts
November 03 2013 01:33 GMT
#8086
On November 03 2013 10:12 mantequilla wrote:
What is the difference between 4gb and 8gbs of ram in regards or performance? It only matters if you are running many programs at once right?


I'm on a new Macbook. My old one was 4gb, I had to close everything if I wanted to played SC. My new macbook has 8gb, and can have much more open without any problems.
Don't know about PC experience though
mantequilla
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Turkey779 Posts
November 03 2013 15:00 GMT
#8087
^^ Mac users tend to run more programs because of the fancy window/app switching thingies

Another question: I'm looking for a laptop cooler/stand and found one just like I wanted, with extra usb ports etc. but it's for 17" laptops. My laptop is 15.6" so will it be too big to use comfortably?
Age of Mythology forever!
IMKR
Profile Joined August 2012
United States378 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-04 10:00:12
November 04 2013 09:57 GMT
#8088
in this video on the gtx titan,
+ Show Spoiler +

he says that the titan is the "fastest single gpu card."
does that mean no SLI / CF, or does it mean something like cores like in CPU??

and at the end he also talks about how the gtx 690 is a dual gpu, thats the part that got me confused and started to think that gpus have "cores" like CPUs or something like that
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 04 2013 10:03 GMT
#8089
Titan is the fastest single GPU card, it's exactly what it means. There are cards like the Radeon 6990 and GTX 690 which have two GPUs.

GPUs do have cores, the Titan has 2688 of them.
IMKR
Profile Joined August 2012
United States378 Posts
November 04 2013 10:35 GMT
#8090
So its exactly as it sounds? as in if you open up a titan, theres only 1 card in there and if u open up a 690, theres 2 cards in there?

skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 04 2013 10:53 GMT
#8091
Both the 690 and Titan are single cards. The difference is that the Titan has two GPUs on the card.

The 7950 GX2 would be two cards stacked on top of each other.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20322 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-04 11:46:23
November 04 2013 11:22 GMT
#8092
On November 04 2013 19:35 IMKR wrote:
So its exactly as it sounds? as in if you open up a titan, theres only 1 card in there and if u open up a 690, theres 2 cards in there?



A Titan is a Graphics >CARD< that has a GPU >ON< it.

A 690 is a graphics card that has TWO GPU's >ON< it

A little unintuitive because of how people use the names, but here

Here's titan pic [image loading]

690 pic [image loading]

The GPU dies are the big square things surrounded by memory chips

Here's a shot of one that's been ripped in half by hardened liquid pro

[image loading]
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
November 04 2013 16:18 GMT
#8093
So I don't think this is the best topic for what I'm going to say but it'll help me vent slightly. What the fuck google. My Nexus 4 is almost new, I've had it for like 2 months or something and the bumper is already broken and I've never dropped it, hell, I'm particularly careful and gentle with my phone. There's a little fracture in the plastic 'loop' around the charging port, which lifts up the corner and makes the phone look odd.

$20 and it breaks in 2 months even though I was very careful. I don't know if Google has a number I can call to complain but I guess they wouldn't help me with that.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
wOotKR
Profile Joined November 2013
8 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-04 23:18:11
November 04 2013 22:36 GMT
#8094
I replaced my old AMD RADEON HD 5770 (Saphire) with a Radeon 7870 HD OC (Gygabite).
Now I have lower FPS than before in SC2 , while all the other games' ( BF3 etc.) performance improved a lot.

FPS Range (4v4 Random) all settings on low:
before : ~220fps max. - 100+fps min(towards the end of a macro game)
now : 150fps max - 30 fps min(towards the end).

Drivers etc. are up to date.
Are there any known issues with the 7870HD or any suggestion what I could try to improve the performance in SC2?

System specs:
Phenom II 965 4x 3,4ghz
8 GB RAM
Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
no SSD

EDIT:

7870HD not 8780
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 04 2013 22:41 GMT
#8095
There is no such thing as an Radeon 8780.

Starcraft II is a CPU intensive game so upgrading your GPU would do little good when your old GPU was more than fine for low settings. If you want better performance in Starcraft II than you need to overclock your CPU or buy a new one.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20322 Posts
November 04 2013 22:43 GMT
#8096
You didn't have 100+fps min towards the end of a macro game in 4v4 beforehand and your 5770 was not limiting your performance on Low so there was no improvement to be had on low settings with the game being CPU limited and you upgrading your graphics card

If you want to compare, you really, really need to do it in the same replay, on the same camera, with the same settings (especially physics/effects/reflections) because your numbers are way off there on the "before"
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
wOotKR
Profile Joined November 2013
8 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-04 23:24:11
November 04 2013 23:23 GMT
#8097
You r right about the 8780 , I messed up the numbers.

Anyway , I was more than fine with the performance with the 5770HD.
Even if the FPS numbers I gave aren't exact, the question is how a better GPU can decrease the performace or rather what to do to improve that again. :/

Thanks for any advice
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20322 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-05 00:25:58
November 05 2013 00:21 GMT
#8098
You said that the GPU upgrade increased performance in all other games, and you wrote impossible fps numbers on the "before" bit for sc2, completely unachievable (cpu bound) so you wouldn't have had that much performance in the first place.

You can't really compare FPS between games, you need to record FPS, preferably with something solid like fraps benchmark so it's rock solid data, and then do the same thing again after parts/performance change - IN THE SAME REPLAY, CAMERA, SETTINGS etc. There's no reason to suspect anything other than your original numbers being wrong, or taken from a bad place, which is exactly what it looks like and anyone on this forum would say if you mentioned them before in any context.

Even on the same settings and race, on some maps i get literally twice as high FPS as others early game - lategame is so heavily influenced by unit counts, the types of units, supplies, interactions etc that you really need the same replay to say anything about performance. Sc2 is really hard on the CPU, and CPU's much much stronger than yours struggle with high unit counts, particularly with effects/reflections/physics up (the cpu settings)

I mean, would try to help you, but 30fps lategame 4v4 on a stock phenom II x4 955 is honestly higher than i'd expect in bad conditions
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-05 02:00:34
November 05 2013 02:00 GMT
#8099
Hi, Im trying to hook up my second monitor to my 7790. + Show Spoiler +
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202029
Both of my monitors are 18.5 Dells with a VGA port.

I have my first monitor hooked up just fine to the first DVI slot, which is DVI-I (dual link) through a DVI-I(male) VGA(female) adaptor.

But the other available DVI slot is DVI-D (dual link). Im wondering if its fine if I just find a DVI-D(male) VGA(female) adaptor and hook it up to my second monitor with no problems.

If thats not an alternative, I would like to know if I could use other means to have my second monitor working.
Skol
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 05 2013 02:03 GMT
#8100
VGA is analog and DVI-D is digital so the two will not work even with an adapter. If you have a Z series board than you could use the IGP for the second monitor.
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