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JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-30 21:11:33
May 30 2012 21:11 GMT
#2941
On May 31 2012 06:04 candyshopgirl wrote:
is it normal to have 60 Fps in meny in sc2 and have 120 in 4vs4?


The menu is framecapped so you don't pointlessly melt your GPU. The game won't have a limit unless you set one through variables or Vsync.
Wabbit
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1028 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-30 21:12:05
May 30 2012 21:11 GMT
#2942
On May 31 2012 06:07 chroniX wrote:
According to the asrock site it supports ivy bridge with an update. but how do i do the update without working cpu?


Bingo! You can't. You'd have to buy a Sandy Bridge chip. So why spend $40 on a Celeron? Just get a B75 or H77 motherboard.
The answers to most of your Tech Support questions are in the OP. That's why you're not getting a reply. It's been answered before. Read the OP.
infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-30 21:15:58
May 30 2012 21:14 GMT
#2943
On May 31 2012 01:06 TheToast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 00:40 JingleHell wrote:
On May 30 2012 23:59 infinity21 wrote:
What's the easiest way to achieve a triple monitor setup if I have a nvidia gtx 260? Would getting a new graphics card be the cheapest solution? I have one of those smaller cases/mobos so I'm not sure if getting a 2nd graphics card is possible (will have to check when I get home).


If you mean for gaming, you really need multi-GPU to pull it off well. (Before Toast shows up arguing for the sake of arguing, I'm not saying you can't do Eyefinity on a single AMD GPU, it's just that the resolution is going to make playing at proper settings and framerate at the same time pretty much impossible, and tons of screen real estate at lowest settings is just pretty fucking stupid.)

If you mean multiple displays for 2d mode, you still need a multi-GPU setup, or an AMD card. Nvidia doesn't support 3 displays off a single GPU yet, unless they've started it in the 600s.

However, non-gaming mutli-GPU doesn't require matching cards, so you can slap in some cheapo shit if you want, just as long as they're both from the same company. I wouldn't want to try mixing drivers, even if there's some screwy way to do one each of AMD and Nvidia.


I'm not going to argue when you're right.

There's some other funky setups you can do. I remember at my last job setting up a PC that had a dual monitor video card and concurrently used the onboard video device for the third monitor; though I have no idea how we did that. Though I remember it took like 30 minutes to get Windows to properly order each of the monitors. Was a pain in the friggin ass.

I would still game off 1 monitor but I want other stuff to be visible. The reason I want a 3rd monitor is because I have a laptop that I want to connect it to at times and I don't want to be fumbling around changing inputs. I think 260 is still a pretty decent card (correct me if I'm wrong) so I don't want to replace it completely right away. I'm not sure my PSU can handle a second GPU either.. I can't recall any of the specs atm haha. Would getting some super cheap NVIDIA card work? I hope it fits in my mobo. Maybe the solution is to stick to a 2 monitor setup and upgrade to a AMD card or a 600+ series in a year or just upgrade my entire PC.

edit: I guess what I'm trying to ask for is what my options are so I can look at the approx. cost and benefits before making a decision.
Official Entusman #21
chroniX
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
517 Posts
May 30 2012 21:18 GMT
#2944
On May 31 2012 06:11 Wabbit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 06:07 chroniX wrote:
According to the asrock site it supports ivy bridge with an update. but how do i do the update without working cpu?


Bingo! You can't. You'd have to buy a Sandy Bridge chip. So why spend $40 on a Celeron? Just get a B75 or H77 motherboard.


Celeron, what do you mean with that?

On buying a newer chip, well thats what i have here now...I could go to my next computer shop and ask them if they could update my mainboard , right? Put a sandy bridge on it, flash, go back home and profit?
Wabbit
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1028 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-30 21:26:33
May 30 2012 21:25 GMT
#2945
On May 31 2012 06:18 chroniX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 06:11 Wabbit wrote:
On May 31 2012 06:07 chroniX wrote:
According to the asrock site it supports ivy bridge with an update. but how do i do the update without working cpu?


Bingo! You can't. You'd have to buy a Sandy Bridge chip. So why spend $40 on a Celeron? Just get a B75 or H77 motherboard.


Celeron, what do you mean with that?

On buying a newer chip, well thats what i have here now...I could go to my next computer shop and ask them if they could update my mainboard , right? Put a sandy bridge on it, flash, go back home and profit?


Okay, so we need to clarify some things. Is this true?

1. You already have that motherboard
2. You want to get an i5 3450

Yes, you can go and ask them to flash your bios. Otherwise you might as well get an i5 2400 or 2500.

By "Celeron" I was referring to the cheapest possible Sandy Bridge chip that can be used for LGA 1155 (Celeron G440) - to be used to flash your BIOS. But it wouldn't make much sense to spend ~$40 on it just to flash the BIOS when you could just get an i5 2400/2500 instead.
The answers to most of your Tech Support questions are in the OP. That's why you're not getting a reply. It's been answered before. Read the OP.
chroniX
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
517 Posts
May 30 2012 21:30 GMT
#2946
On May 31 2012 06:25 Wabbit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 06:18 chroniX wrote:
On May 31 2012 06:11 Wabbit wrote:
On May 31 2012 06:07 chroniX wrote:
According to the asrock site it supports ivy bridge with an update. but how do i do the update without working cpu?


Bingo! You can't. You'd have to buy a Sandy Bridge chip. So why spend $40 on a Celeron? Just get a B75 or H77 motherboard.


Celeron, what do you mean with that?

On buying a newer chip, well thats what i have here now...I could go to my next computer shop and ask them if they could update my mainboard , right? Put a sandy bridge on it, flash, go back home and profit?


Okay, so we need to clarify some things. Is this true?

1. You already have that motherboard
2. You want to get an i5 3450

Yes, you can go and ask them to flash your bios. Otherwise you might as well get an i5 2400 or 2500.

By "Celeron" I was referring to the cheapest possible Sandy Bridge chip that can be used for LGA 1155 (Celeron G440) - to be used to flash your BIOS. But it wouldn't make much sense to spend ~$40 on it just to flash the BIOS when you could just get an i5 2400/2500 instead.


Okay i will try to get it updated then. Thank you for the answers!

JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
May 30 2012 22:02 GMT
#2947
On May 31 2012 06:14 infinity21 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 01:06 TheToast wrote:
On May 31 2012 00:40 JingleHell wrote:
On May 30 2012 23:59 infinity21 wrote:
What's the easiest way to achieve a triple monitor setup if I have a nvidia gtx 260? Would getting a new graphics card be the cheapest solution? I have one of those smaller cases/mobos so I'm not sure if getting a 2nd graphics card is possible (will have to check when I get home).


If you mean for gaming, you really need multi-GPU to pull it off well. (Before Toast shows up arguing for the sake of arguing, I'm not saying you can't do Eyefinity on a single AMD GPU, it's just that the resolution is going to make playing at proper settings and framerate at the same time pretty much impossible, and tons of screen real estate at lowest settings is just pretty fucking stupid.)

If you mean multiple displays for 2d mode, you still need a multi-GPU setup, or an AMD card. Nvidia doesn't support 3 displays off a single GPU yet, unless they've started it in the 600s.

However, non-gaming mutli-GPU doesn't require matching cards, so you can slap in some cheapo shit if you want, just as long as they're both from the same company. I wouldn't want to try mixing drivers, even if there's some screwy way to do one each of AMD and Nvidia.


I'm not going to argue when you're right.

There's some other funky setups you can do. I remember at my last job setting up a PC that had a dual monitor video card and concurrently used the onboard video device for the third monitor; though I have no idea how we did that. Though I remember it took like 30 minutes to get Windows to properly order each of the monitors. Was a pain in the friggin ass.

I would still game off 1 monitor but I want other stuff to be visible. The reason I want a 3rd monitor is because I have a laptop that I want to connect it to at times and I don't want to be fumbling around changing inputs. I think 260 is still a pretty decent card (correct me if I'm wrong) so I don't want to replace it completely right away. I'm not sure my PSU can handle a second GPU either.. I can't recall any of the specs atm haha. Would getting some super cheap NVIDIA card work? I hope it fits in my mobo. Maybe the solution is to stick to a 2 monitor setup and upgrade to a AMD card or a 600+ series in a year or just upgrade my entire PC.

edit: I guess what I'm trying to ask for is what my options are so I can look at the approx. cost and benefits before making a decision.


Yes, for purely 2d shit on the extra monitors, you can slap in a cheapass nvidia card and it should be fine, assuming you have the slots. As for a 260 still being "pretty decent", well, with hardware that old it falls into subjective turf.
sLBoGoRoH
Profile Joined January 2012
Netherlands126 Posts
May 30 2012 22:29 GMT
#2948
Razer BlackWidow vs SteelSeries 6Gv2 which 1?
xeo1
Profile Joined October 2011
United States429 Posts
May 31 2012 00:57 GMT
#2949
Logitech G1 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/LOGITECH-G1-Gaming-Optical-Mouse-BULK-1000dpi-/260811154253?pt=Mice&hash=item3cb98e634d#ht_3610wt_1163)

or

G400? (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826104577)
billy5000
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States865 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-31 01:21:01
May 31 2012 01:16 GMT
#2950
i'm trying to set up a simple home audio. not anything fancy. just a pair of bookshelf speakers. but i have a question regarding the connection between the speakers and an mp3 player (using a typical headphone jack).

i'm looking to buy this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882290200

the problem is that its input is Dual (bi-amp) 5 way binding posts, which i have no idea what it's used for (i'm quite new at this home audio thing - if you have a better suggestion than bookshelf speakers @ ~$150 budget please do tell, i'm up for suggestions) . my main concern is that will it work with an mp3 player, and what adapter would i need?

thanks in advance
Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder, 'Why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand. Vonnegut
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
May 31 2012 01:25 GMT
#2951
They need a separate amplifier to power them because they are passive speakers. If you just want a pair of bookshelf speakers, you probably want active speakers like a pair of Audioengine A2s or A5s. Google both of these terms and you should understand what the difference is.

A decent amplifier will cost more than those speakers.
infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
May 31 2012 01:26 GMT
#2952
On May 31 2012 07:02 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 06:14 infinity21 wrote:
On May 31 2012 01:06 TheToast wrote:
On May 31 2012 00:40 JingleHell wrote:
On May 30 2012 23:59 infinity21 wrote:
What's the easiest way to achieve a triple monitor setup if I have a nvidia gtx 260? Would getting a new graphics card be the cheapest solution? I have one of those smaller cases/mobos so I'm not sure if getting a 2nd graphics card is possible (will have to check when I get home).


If you mean for gaming, you really need multi-GPU to pull it off well. (Before Toast shows up arguing for the sake of arguing, I'm not saying you can't do Eyefinity on a single AMD GPU, it's just that the resolution is going to make playing at proper settings and framerate at the same time pretty much impossible, and tons of screen real estate at lowest settings is just pretty fucking stupid.)

If you mean multiple displays for 2d mode, you still need a multi-GPU setup, or an AMD card. Nvidia doesn't support 3 displays off a single GPU yet, unless they've started it in the 600s.

However, non-gaming mutli-GPU doesn't require matching cards, so you can slap in some cheapo shit if you want, just as long as they're both from the same company. I wouldn't want to try mixing drivers, even if there's some screwy way to do one each of AMD and Nvidia.


I'm not going to argue when you're right.

There's some other funky setups you can do. I remember at my last job setting up a PC that had a dual monitor video card and concurrently used the onboard video device for the third monitor; though I have no idea how we did that. Though I remember it took like 30 minutes to get Windows to properly order each of the monitors. Was a pain in the friggin ass.

I would still game off 1 monitor but I want other stuff to be visible. The reason I want a 3rd monitor is because I have a laptop that I want to connect it to at times and I don't want to be fumbling around changing inputs. I think 260 is still a pretty decent card (correct me if I'm wrong) so I don't want to replace it completely right away. I'm not sure my PSU can handle a second GPU either.. I can't recall any of the specs atm haha. Would getting some super cheap NVIDIA card work? I hope it fits in my mobo. Maybe the solution is to stick to a 2 monitor setup and upgrade to a AMD card or a 600+ series in a year or just upgrade my entire PC.

edit: I guess what I'm trying to ask for is what my options are so I can look at the approx. cost and benefits before making a decision.


Yes, for purely 2d shit on the extra monitors, you can slap in a cheapass nvidia card and it should be fine, assuming you have the slots. As for a 260 still being "pretty decent", well, with hardware that old it falls into subjective turf.

Cool, thanks for the info. I think I'll grab something really cheap over the weekend and see if that works. I'll likely be building a new PC in a year or so when I graduate and have a full time job. My desktop is just over 2 years old (got it during sc2 beta) so I want to wait at least 1 more year before upgrading.
Official Entusman #21
iKill[ShocK]
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vietnam3530 Posts
May 31 2012 01:27 GMT
#2953
On May 31 2012 07:29 sLBoGoRoH wrote:
Razer BlackWidow vs SteelSeries 6Gv2 which 1?

Blackwidow = blue SS 6gv2 = black. Personal preferences on the keys, but SS has better build quality. SS imo.


On May 31 2012 09:57 xeo1 wrote:
Logitech G1 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/LOGITECH-G1-Gaming-Optical-Mouse-BULK-1000dpi-/260811154253?pt=Mice&hash=item3cb98e634d#ht_3610wt_1163)

or

G400? (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826104577)

G400 imo.

<3 Kim Taeyeon
Goldfish
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-31 01:44:57
May 31 2012 01:27 GMT
#2954
I have a question regarding Windows 7:

Is it possible to allow files in the task bar to be listed in a "list" rather than a "tile" like Windows XP (Vista too) and before?

I tried using 7 and whenever I click say Folders with multiple folders opened (for example), it would list them in a "tile" with thumbnails.

However I want it to be listed in a list (like in XP and Vista) with just text.


Now on to my second point (not a question but sort of a semi rant):

Also vote here: https://connect.microsoft.com/WindowsServerFeedback/feedback/details/741495/biggest-explorer-annoyance-automatic-sorting-windows-7-server-2008-r2-and-vista#details

I honestly also don't know why Microsoft disabled the ability to disable auto arrange.

As someone who does a lot of modding or work in general in the computer, it would be really tedious to have to work with everything automatically auto arranging. There are work arounds (like certain registry hacks or using your desktop as your workspace which can get really messy) but I'd pay money to have the feature back >.> (it's like Firefox's new "switch to tab" feature, yes you can live with it and there are work arounds but why is everything becoming automaticated lately)?

Time to do my favorite thing - Video game comparisons!
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In Counter-Strike 1.6, competitive and more hardcore players would always turn off the GUI and do simple text display for buying weapons or changing teams.

The automatic auto arrange or "switch to tab feature" (that can't be turned off without addons in Firefox) would be equilavent to say your Sentries in SC2 automatically forcefielding when you hover your mouse over a ramp (regardless if enemies are present or not).

Another example - Anyone know about Elective mode in Diablo III and how it's turned off by default? (By default, Diablo III doesn't allow you to pick skills from the same skill tree because apparently people may be too dumb and pick all defensive or offensive skills).

Imagine if that existed in Starcraft II - Imagine as Terran you're building marines then you suddenly can't for some reason (even with enough supply + resources), you get an error message - "You can't produce any more marines, you need more medivacs to produce marines because medivacs go good with marines".

This is what's happening to Operating Systems and Browsers now - Everything is becoming automated because the dev apparently thinks users are too dumb to know how to do things or be effecient on their own (like Firefox's "instead of going to the same page you already have opened [like google maps which would be handy, OR a video where I want to check different points of the video at the same time, OR a strategy guide that lists its walkthrough and its item database on the same link/page in which case I'd want to have two instances of that site open, OR I want to quickly open five pages of a wiki to explore different areas real quick but I can't because of "switch to tab". Fortunately in the last case, I simply click on the banner or main page link *"click open in new tab or window"... at least for now...], let me simply switch the tab to the one you already have open").

(If it got lost in the wall of text, "Switch To Tab" is a "feature" that automatically forces you to switch to the tab you already opened if you are trying to enter a site which is already opened. For example if I had "teamliquid.net" already opened and I open a new tab/window and type "teamliquid.net", instead of going to that site, it simply switches to the site I have already opened. I know this feature might be useful to some if they have a ton of pages opened but for a lot of others, it's a feature that can become tedious to deal with or work around.)

*In before Mozilla forces the "Switch to new tab" to also apply to "Open in new window/tab" >.>.

So if anyone from Microsoft and/or Mozilla is reading this, please fix and allow users to turn off automatic "we know better than you" (like force auto arrange in folders in windows 7+ or "switch to tab" in Firefox) features.
https://connect.microsoft.com/WindowsServerFeedback/feedback/details/741495/biggest-explorer-annoyance-automatic-sorting-windows-7-server-2008-r2-and-vista#details Allow Disable Auto Arrange in Windows 7+
xeo1
Profile Joined October 2011
United States429 Posts
May 31 2012 01:35 GMT
#2955
On May 31 2012 10:27 iKill[ShocK] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 07:29 sLBoGoRoH wrote:
Razer BlackWidow vs SteelSeries 6Gv2 which 1?

Blackwidow = blue SS 6gv2 = black. Personal preferences on the keys, but SS has better build quality. SS imo.


Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 09:57 xeo1 wrote:
Logitech G1 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/LOGITECH-G1-Gaming-Optical-Mouse-BULK-1000dpi-/260811154253?pt=Mice&hash=item3cb98e634d#ht_3610wt_1163)

or

G400? (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826104577)

G400 imo.



I already ordered G1, but prolly going to get the G400 also. what do you think about kinzu v2?
iKill[ShocK]
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vietnam3530 Posts
May 31 2012 01:46 GMT
#2956
The thing about mouse is that its hard to find one that completely comfortable with you. That's why when im mouse shopping i shop at a local store where i can return the ones i dont like/feel comfortable with. If you ordered the g1 already then wait until it arrives and see how it feels, if its comfortable then keep it, no need for other mouses.
<3 Kim Taeyeon
billy5000
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States865 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-31 02:07:18
May 31 2012 01:56 GMT
#2957
On May 31 2012 10:25 Womwomwom wrote:
They need a separate amplifier to power them because they are passive speakers. If you just want a pair of bookshelf speakers, you probably want active speakers like a pair of Audioengine A2s or A5s. Google both of these terms and you should understand what the difference is.

A decent amplifier will cost more than those speakers.


i see. since i'll be taking the active speaker route anyway, a question comes to mind. i have an old pentium 4 desktop with a monitor that i never use. do you think that buying a sound card, and speakers with the leftover budget may be a better choice in terms of sound quality? i'm not sure how much of a difference a sound card will make.
Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder, 'Why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand. Vonnegut
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
May 31 2012 02:26 GMT
#2958
Personally I would get the speakers first then deal with the sound card later if you think you need it. The speakers are going to be the most important thing, I think.
xeo1
Profile Joined October 2011
United States429 Posts
May 31 2012 03:43 GMT
#2959
what could cause my screen to flash a black streak as I move around? my pc is brand new, i5 3570k/z77/8gb ram/gtx 460/430W. someone said I might have to match the game to my monitor's refresh rate or something like that.
PviLLe3
Profile Joined January 2012
United States305 Posts
May 31 2012 04:07 GMT
#2960
hi , for some reason my tower isnt sending a signal to my monitor, the monitor definately works, i hooked it up to my laptop. a friend of mine told me to unplug my gpu and try connecting the monitor straight to my mobo to see if my gpu is busted but that also didnt work. anyone have an idea on what it might be? thanks in advance for the help

my computer was working fine for the last 3-4 months ive had it i went away for 2 nights sunday, come home and it wont fire up, its normally on daily.
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