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TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
May 30 2012 02:14 GMT
#2921
On May 30 2012 10:55 Kiritsu wrote:
I am on a home wireless connection. I can connect to battle.net and play custom games on sc2 but can't play ladder. Help please.


What happens when you try to play ladder games?
I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
Kiritsu
Profile Joined September 2010
Trinidad/Tobago7 Posts
May 30 2012 02:55 GMT
#2922
On May 30 2012 11:14 TheToast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 10:55 Kiritsu wrote:
I am on a home wireless connection. I can connect to battle.net and play custom games on sc2 but can't play ladder. Help please.


What happens when you try to play ladder games?


The orange bar that says "searching for players" never shows up and the game hangs right there.
Ficetool
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany165 Posts
May 30 2012 13:54 GMT
#2923
Hey I was wondering if it was possible to apply the media keys of my Steelseries 6gv2 to Grooveshark.com?
So far it only works for players (like Mediaplayer e.g.) but as I only use Grooveshark this would help me out a lot...So can anyone help me with this?

Thanks
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
May 30 2012 14:13 GMT
#2924
On May 30 2012 11:55 Kiritsu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 11:14 TheToast wrote:
On May 30 2012 10:55 Kiritsu wrote:
I am on a home wireless connection. I can connect to battle.net and play custom games on sc2 but can't play ladder. Help please.


What happens when you try to play ladder games?


The orange bar that says "searching for players" never shows up and the game hangs right there.


First thing I would suggest is checking that you have all the necessary ports open on your router, more information about that here: http://us.battle.net/support/en/article/starcraft-ii-connection-issue-faq#q-4

Also check that SC2 is allowed through the Windows firewall.
I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
May 30 2012 14:59 GMT
#2925
What's the easiest way to achieve a triple monitor setup if I have a nvidia gtx 260? Would getting a new graphics card be the cheapest solution? I have one of those smaller cases/mobos so I'm not sure if getting a 2nd graphics card is possible (will have to check when I get home).
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JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-30 15:41:03
May 30 2012 15:40 GMT
#2926
On May 30 2012 23:59 infinity21 wrote:
What's the easiest way to achieve a triple monitor setup if I have a nvidia gtx 260? Would getting a new graphics card be the cheapest solution? I have one of those smaller cases/mobos so I'm not sure if getting a 2nd graphics card is possible (will have to check when I get home).


If you mean for gaming, you really need multi-GPU to pull it off well. (Before Toast shows up arguing for the sake of arguing, I'm not saying you can't do Eyefinity on a single AMD GPU, it's just that the resolution is going to make playing at proper settings and framerate at the same time pretty much impossible, and tons of screen real estate at lowest settings is just pretty fucking stupid.)

If you mean multiple displays for 2d mode, you still need a multi-GPU setup, or an AMD card. Nvidia doesn't support 3 displays off a single GPU yet, unless they've started it in the 600s.

However, non-gaming mutli-GPU doesn't require matching cards, so you can slap in some cheapo shit if you want, just as long as they're both from the same company. I wouldn't want to try mixing drivers, even if there's some screwy way to do one each of AMD and Nvidia.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
May 30 2012 15:53 GMT
#2927
If you don't have a usual PCI Express x16 slot open, there exist some low-end graphics cards that fit in PCI Express x1 slots, and others that use PCI. I think you can use one of those in addition to the GTX 260. Those tend to be really overpriced and ancient though.

If your CPU sucks, you can also upgrade to Sandy Bridge or Ivy Bridge and run the third monitor off of the IGP.

btw Nvidia supports four monitors off of a single GPU on 600 series (link)
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
May 30 2012 16:00 GMT
#2928
On May 31 2012 00:53 Myrmidon wrote:
If you don't have a usual PCI Express x16 slot open, there exist some low-end graphics cards that fit in PCI Express x1 slots, and others that use PCI. I think you can use one of those in addition to the GTX 260. Those tend to be really overpriced and ancient though.

If your CPU sucks, you can also upgrade to Sandy Bridge or Ivy Bridge and run the third monitor off of the IGP.

btw Nvidia supports four monitors off of a single GPU on 600 series (link)


Outstanding, although the same point applies for gaming with it. I really should get around to catching up on current hardware. There's just so little point, since I gave up on trying to do the price matching thing on builds, since I'm so damn slow at it.
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
May 30 2012 16:04 GMT
#2929
Which processor is better: Intel B815 vs AMD E-450?

Initially I wanted to go for AMD, but after some searching I'm getting some hints that Intel's cpu may be better. The google results are messy, and I really just wanna hear it from someone who knows what they're talking about.

(I need to pick a cheap laptop for someone, I'm planning on shipping 4gb of RAM and one of these CPUs)

Any comments are welcome.
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
May 30 2012 16:06 GMT
#2930
On May 31 2012 00:40 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 23:59 infinity21 wrote:
What's the easiest way to achieve a triple monitor setup if I have a nvidia gtx 260? Would getting a new graphics card be the cheapest solution? I have one of those smaller cases/mobos so I'm not sure if getting a 2nd graphics card is possible (will have to check when I get home).


If you mean for gaming, you really need multi-GPU to pull it off well. (Before Toast shows up arguing for the sake of arguing, I'm not saying you can't do Eyefinity on a single AMD GPU, it's just that the resolution is going to make playing at proper settings and framerate at the same time pretty much impossible, and tons of screen real estate at lowest settings is just pretty fucking stupid.)

If you mean multiple displays for 2d mode, you still need a multi-GPU setup, or an AMD card. Nvidia doesn't support 3 displays off a single GPU yet, unless they've started it in the 600s.

However, non-gaming mutli-GPU doesn't require matching cards, so you can slap in some cheapo shit if you want, just as long as they're both from the same company. I wouldn't want to try mixing drivers, even if there's some screwy way to do one each of AMD and Nvidia.


I'm not going to argue when you're right.

There's some other funky setups you can do. I remember at my last job setting up a PC that had a dual monitor video card and concurrently used the onboard video device for the third monitor; though I have no idea how we did that. Though I remember it took like 30 minutes to get Windows to properly order each of the monitors. Was a pain in the friggin ass.
I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
May 30 2012 16:10 GMT
#2931
On May 31 2012 01:06 TheToast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 00:40 JingleHell wrote:
On May 30 2012 23:59 infinity21 wrote:
What's the easiest way to achieve a triple monitor setup if I have a nvidia gtx 260? Would getting a new graphics card be the cheapest solution? I have one of those smaller cases/mobos so I'm not sure if getting a 2nd graphics card is possible (will have to check when I get home).


If you mean for gaming, you really need multi-GPU to pull it off well. (Before Toast shows up arguing for the sake of arguing, I'm not saying you can't do Eyefinity on a single AMD GPU, it's just that the resolution is going to make playing at proper settings and framerate at the same time pretty much impossible, and tons of screen real estate at lowest settings is just pretty fucking stupid.)

If you mean multiple displays for 2d mode, you still need a multi-GPU setup, or an AMD card. Nvidia doesn't support 3 displays off a single GPU yet, unless they've started it in the 600s.

However, non-gaming mutli-GPU doesn't require matching cards, so you can slap in some cheapo shit if you want, just as long as they're both from the same company. I wouldn't want to try mixing drivers, even if there's some screwy way to do one each of AMD and Nvidia.


I'm not going to argue when you're right.



Right, that's why defragging an SSD never hurts, according to some people? Or dust can't block a GPU heatsink and cause heat trouble? Pre-emptive strike.
Wabbit
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1028 Posts
May 30 2012 16:27 GMT
#2932
On May 31 2012 01:04 niteReloaded wrote:
Which processor is better: Intel B815 vs AMD E-450?

Initially I wanted to go for AMD, but after some searching I'm getting some hints that Intel's cpu may be better. The google results are messy, and I really just wanna hear it from someone who knows what they're talking about.

(I need to pick a cheap laptop for someone, I'm planning on shipping 4gb of RAM and one of these CPUs)

Any comments are welcome.


B815 is far better. It's built on the Sandy Bridge architecture, which is much more advanced.

You can see some synthetic benchmarks (which can be fairly representative of real-world performance) for both of these. The B815 is ~50-100% faster.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Celeron-B815-Notebook-Processor.64413.0.html

http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-E-Series-E-450-Notebook-Processor.60138.0.html
The answers to most of your Tech Support questions are in the OP. That's why you're not getting a reply. It's been answered before. Read the OP.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-30 16:37:58
May 30 2012 16:28 GMT
#2933
On May 31 2012 01:04 niteReloaded wrote:
Which processor is better: Intel B815 vs AMD E-450?

Initially I wanted to go for AMD, but after some searching I'm getting some hints that Intel's cpu may be better. The google results are messy, and I really just wanna hear it from someone who knows what they're talking about.

(I need to pick a cheap laptop for someone, I'm planning on shipping 4gb of RAM and one of these CPUs)

Any comments are welcome.

B815 is a mainstream CPU, a Sandy Bridge (like they have on desktops, laptops, servers), just cut down on features most people don't care about, and run at a relatively low clock speed. It's a powerful yet power-efficient CPU, scaled down to not be as powerful. E-450 is the full-fledged version of a CPU design intended to be low-power and low-performance, destined for netbooks and the like.

B815 comes out to be about twice as fast as the E-450. Both are dual cores. The integrated graphics on both are about similar in performance. Both should be able to play HD videos and the like, in general, but the E-450 is in more trouble if GPU acceleration isn't available for some reason. Intel integrated graphics have more drivers-related compatibility issues though.

E-450 power consumption should be a bit lower, meaning longer battery life, given an equal battery (but it may not be given an equal battery in practice). The difference, however, is not as great as the nominal TDP values suggest: 35W vs. 17W.

edit: ninja'd. You know, in a lot of situations the extra CPU processing capability isn't needed, so I'd suggest going for lower power consumption, but it doesn't seem like the E-450 is that much better in terms of idle draw. Maybe the difference is overshadowed by motherboard, chipset, RAM, hard drive, etc. power draws.
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
May 30 2012 16:30 GMT
#2934
On May 31 2012 01:10 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 01:06 TheToast wrote:
On May 31 2012 00:40 JingleHell wrote:
On May 30 2012 23:59 infinity21 wrote:
What's the easiest way to achieve a triple monitor setup if I have a nvidia gtx 260? Would getting a new graphics card be the cheapest solution? I have one of those smaller cases/mobos so I'm not sure if getting a 2nd graphics card is possible (will have to check when I get home).


If you mean for gaming, you really need multi-GPU to pull it off well. (Before Toast shows up arguing for the sake of arguing, I'm not saying you can't do Eyefinity on a single AMD GPU, it's just that the resolution is going to make playing at proper settings and framerate at the same time pretty much impossible, and tons of screen real estate at lowest settings is just pretty fucking stupid.)

If you mean multiple displays for 2d mode, you still need a multi-GPU setup, or an AMD card. Nvidia doesn't support 3 displays off a single GPU yet, unless they've started it in the 600s.

However, non-gaming mutli-GPU doesn't require matching cards, so you can slap in some cheapo shit if you want, just as long as they're both from the same company. I wouldn't want to try mixing drivers, even if there's some screwy way to do one each of AMD and Nvidia.


I'm not going to argue when you're right.



Right, that's why defragging an SSD never hurts, according to some people? Or dust can't block a GPU heatsink and cause heat trouble? Pre-emptive strike.


The SSD thing I said was a good question, and was clearly just theorizing. Though I did some reading and corrected myself, did I not? Also, I never said dust can't block a GPU heatsink. I said it was highly unlikely that dust alone would cause the temps to sit at 80C when idle.
I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
May 30 2012 17:07 GMT
#2935
On May 31 2012 01:27 Wabbit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 01:04 niteReloaded wrote:
Which processor is better: Intel B815 vs AMD E-450?

Initially I wanted to go for AMD, but after some searching I'm getting some hints that Intel's cpu may be better. The google results are messy, and I really just wanna hear it from someone who knows what they're talking about.

(I need to pick a cheap laptop for someone, I'm planning on shipping 4gb of RAM and one of these CPUs)

Any comments are welcome.


B815 is far better. It's built on the Sandy Bridge architecture, which is much more advanced.

You can see some synthetic benchmarks (which can be fairly representative of real-world performance) for both of these. The B815 is ~50-100% faster.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Celeron-B815-Notebook-Processor.64413.0.html

http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-E-Series-E-450-Notebook-Processor.60138.0.html

On May 31 2012 01:28 Myrmidon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 01:04 niteReloaded wrote:
Which processor is better: Intel B815 vs AMD E-450?

Initially I wanted to go for AMD, but after some searching I'm getting some hints that Intel's cpu may be better. The google results are messy, and I really just wanna hear it from someone who knows what they're talking about.

(I need to pick a cheap laptop for someone, I'm planning on shipping 4gb of RAM and one of these CPUs)

Any comments are welcome.

B815 is a mainstream CPU, a Sandy Bridge (like they have on desktops, laptops, servers), just cut down on features most people don't care about, and run at a relatively low clock speed. It's a powerful yet power-efficient CPU, scaled down to not be as powerful. E-450 is the full-fledged version of a CPU design intended to be low-power and low-performance, destined for netbooks and the like.

B815 comes out to be about twice as fast as the E-450. Both are dual cores. The integrated graphics on both are about similar in performance. Both should be able to play HD videos and the like, in general, but the E-450 is in more trouble if GPU acceleration isn't available for some reason. Intel integrated graphics have more drivers-related compatibility issues though.

E-450 power consumption should be a bit lower, meaning longer battery life, given an equal battery (but it may not be given an equal battery in practice). The difference, however, is not as great as the nominal TDP values suggest: 35W vs. 17W.

edit: ninja'd. You know, in a lot of situations the extra CPU processing capability isn't needed, so I'd suggest going for lower power consumption, but it doesn't seem like the E-450 is that much better in terms of idle draw. Maybe the difference is overshadowed by motherboard, chipset, RAM, hard drive, etc. power draws.

Thank you both

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scudst0rm
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1149 Posts
May 30 2012 18:47 GMT
#2936
On May 30 2012 22:54 Ficetool wrote:
Hey I was wondering if it was possible to apply the media keys of my Steelseries 6gv2 to Grooveshark.com?
So far it only works for players (like Mediaplayer e.g.) but as I only use Grooveshark this would help me out a lot...So can anyone help me with this?

Thanks


I've looked in to this. Apparently grooveshark doesn't expose an API to do global hotkeys so it's not possible with the browser player. I believe there are some unofficial desktop clients that support global hotkeys, but I don't know how good they are.
You're like a one ranger army comin' at me...
chroniX
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
517 Posts
May 30 2012 20:58 GMT
#2937
does the asrock H61M/U3S3 match with a i5 3450 cpu and if so it would have integrated graphics enabled, right?
Wabbit
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1028 Posts
May 30 2012 21:00 GMT
#2938
You need an LGA 1155 board with the B75 or H77 chipset. H61 will not work because its bios is most likely not updated for the new Ivy Bridge CPU's (like the i5 3450) .

And if you do that, yes, the integrated graphics will be usable via the motherboard's video outputs.
The answers to most of your Tech Support questions are in the OP. That's why you're not getting a reply. It's been answered before. Read the OP.
candyshopgirl
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden28 Posts
May 30 2012 21:04 GMT
#2939
is it normal to have 60 Fps in meny in sc2 and have 120 in 4vs4?
chroniX
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
517 Posts
May 30 2012 21:07 GMT
#2940
According to the asrock site it supports ivy bridge with an update. but how do i do the update without working cpu?
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