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BottleAbuser
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)1888 Posts
May 28 2012 14:15 GMT
#2881
I have a phenom 9550 cpu and a radeon hd 6770 graphics card. Is the CPU bottlenecking the GPU? (Older cpu and mobo, 6gb of ddr2 ram clocked at 800MHz.)
Compilers are like boyfriends, you miss a period and they go crazy on you.
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
May 28 2012 14:19 GMT
#2882
Definitely.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
May 28 2012 14:20 GMT
#2883
On May 28 2012 23:15 BottleAbuser wrote:
I have a phenom 9550 cpu and a radeon hd 6770 graphics card. Is the CPU bottlenecking the GPU? (Older cpu and mobo, 6gb of ddr2 ram clocked at 800MHz.)


A first gen phenom is a piece of shit under the best of circumstances. So yes, in general, you'd want more CPU. As for whether it's bottlenecking you, it depends on the game. In anything even vaguely CPU limited, or at lower display resolutions, yes.

A good way to check if your CPU is a bottleneck in a game is to check your FPS in a specific situation, then lower the graphics settings significantly (resolution is a good way to do this quickly), then go into the same specific situation, and see if your FPS improves. If it goes up, your GPU is the bottleneck for that situation in that game. If it stays roughly the same, it's the CPU slowing you down.
BottleAbuser
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)1888 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-28 14:26:28
May 28 2012 14:23 GMT
#2884
Skyrim on 1280x1024 seems to run pretty smoothly but any sort of AA turned on causes the textures to glitch and flicker pretty bad (the fps doesn't appear to change). Can I assume this is a CPU or RAM bottleneck? I would have assumed that it only puts a higher load on the GPU, but my understanding is that the HD 6770 is more than adequate for the task.
Compilers are like boyfriends, you miss a period and they go crazy on you.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
May 28 2012 14:26 GMT
#2885
On May 28 2012 23:23 BottleAbuser wrote:
Skyrim on 1280x1024 seems to run pretty smoothly but any sort of AA turned on causes the textures to glitch and flicker pretty bad (the fps doesn't appear to change). Can I assume this is a CPU or RAM bottleneck?


Uhm, turning on AA is increasing demand on the GPU rather significantly. If you're having visible trouble with it, I think you may have temp issues with the GPU, because that resolution shouldn't tax a 6770 too badly even with Skyrim.

The FPS not "appearing" to change suggests you aren't actually monitoring it in the slightest. You need to actually have NUMBERS to compare, since frequently you'll be dealing with increases of generated FPS to above common display refresh rates, so the only way to compare results is by monitoring numbers.

BottleAbuser
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)1888 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-28 14:49:02
May 28 2012 14:39 GMT
#2886
Right, I'll come back with FPS numbers later.. so far I've only been monitoring temperatures which have been stable at 45C for the CPU and 60C for the GPU. (I spent too much on coolers that are too big.) CPU temp monitored with Core Temp and GPU temp monitored with Catalyst. The 4 cores are shown at ~80% utilization.
Compilers are like boyfriends, you miss a period and they go crazy on you.
Xaniz
Profile Joined November 2011
Belgium18 Posts
May 28 2012 17:15 GMT
#2887
On May 28 2012 23:23 BottleAbuser wrote:
Skyrim on 1280x1024 seems to run pretty smoothly but any sort of AA turned on causes the textures to glitch and flicker pretty bad (the fps doesn't appear to change). Can I assume this is a CPU or RAM bottleneck? I would have assumed that it only puts a higher load on the GPU, but my understanding is that the HD 6770 is more than adequate for the task.


Flicker is often caused by your gpu, AA stresses your gpu making it skip a frame from time to time causing the annoying flicker effect. Maybe a driver update can fix this? Since I think a 6770 should run skyrim just fine without AA or some AA.
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
May 28 2012 21:17 GMT
#2888
I want to buy a PCIe GPU for under $50, is there an easy pick I should go for?
MisterJulianMan
Profile Joined May 2012
19 Posts
May 29 2012 00:06 GMT
#2889
you might be able to find a 6670 for that price
domane
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada1606 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-05 02:05:11
May 29 2012 03:41 GMT
#2890
How much ram is ideal for casual/medium level gaming?

EDIT: Thanks
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
May 29 2012 03:44 GMT
#2891
On May 29 2012 12:41 domane wrote:
How much ram is ideal for casual/medium level gaming?


Around 6GB I'd say, though RAM is so cheap these days there's no reason not to go for a full 8GB.

Just don't go any higher than that, unless you do something other than gaming you won't see any performance benefits.
I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
MorpheusEU
Profile Joined December 2011
21 Posts
May 29 2012 10:51 GMT
#2892
I can buy a used CM 690II windowed for 40 euro's (new=105 euro's). Problem is that I don't have money for my other hardware just yet. Is this a good deal?
Stiluz
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway688 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-29 12:33:04
May 29 2012 12:27 GMT
#2893
Do I need to update the bios on the motherboard I bought for my new computer that's coming tomorrow (ASUS P8H77 series)? Already downloaded the chipset drivers etc. Just the bios I'm scared of touching.

Ninjaedit question: I have an old PS2 keyboard I like. I tried a ps2 -> USB adapter with it for my laptop, but I ended up getting a bluescreen. Is there any risk at all using it on my pc since I got a bluescreen (I'm thinking faulty keyboard due to the adapter failing or something), or am I being insanely paranoid now?
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
May 29 2012 12:41 GMT
#2894
No you most likely don't have to update the BIOS. I don't bother updating mine unless there is a serious problem. I haven't found a serious problem in a motherboard's BIOS in years. If you want to know, the last time had to be Gigabyte's god awful X58 motherboards.

As for your keyboard question, no I can't see why it wouldn't work on your PC. Your laptop probably has other problems that aren't related to the keyboard.
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
May 29 2012 13:46 GMT
#2895
On May 29 2012 21:27 Stiluz wrote:
Do I need to update the bios on the motherboard I bought for my new computer that's coming tomorrow (ASUS P8H77 series)? Already downloaded the chipset drivers etc. Just the bios I'm scared of touching.

Ninjaedit question: I have an old PS2 keyboard I like. I tried a ps2 -> USB adapter with it for my laptop, but I ended up getting a bluescreen. Is there any risk at all using it on my pc since I got a bluescreen (I'm thinking faulty keyboard due to the adapter failing or something), or am I being insanely paranoid now?


You don't have to update the bios, but it's generally a good idea as bios updates usually contain fixes for bugs or improvements to the UI.

If you get a blue screen then yes there is a danger of data corruption as Windows is basically encountering a critical error and immediately failing. A USB device really shouldn't be able to do that though unless there is some underlying issue with the chipset driver. I'd say confirm the issue is really the keyboard first.
I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
Mcn00bin
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada19 Posts
May 29 2012 16:03 GMT
#2896
MSE vs Avira vs Avast vs AVG?
yann
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
119 Posts
May 29 2012 16:09 GMT
#2897
Hello, I am looking for a Windows notebook which has the best quality integrated webcam (possibly for recording videos in 30FPS).

Is there anything better than Samsung 9 Series?
My life for Aiur!
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
May 29 2012 16:12 GMT
#2898
On May 30 2012 01:03 Mcn00bin wrote:
MSE vs Avira vs Avast vs AVG?


Sorry, no clear answer to that question. Each has it's fans and detractors. Upside of MSE is that it won't bug you about updating to a full version, but it's also more heavy on system resources and is a bit slower doing full scans though is a bit more configurable in terms of the active guard. Antivir is sometimes rated above AVG in terms of detection, but AVG is apparently more customizable.

I personally use Avira, and I can say the constant pestering to upgrade to the full version is annoying. But I much prefer it to MSE which I find slow, cumbersom, and a bit too much like the Windows Vista version of Windows Defender, which was not great.

Truth be told though, I'm not sure there is a ton of difference between them, it all really comes down to personal preference.
I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
EdenPLusDucky
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
571 Posts
May 29 2012 16:20 GMT
#2899
On May 30 2012 01:03 Mcn00bin wrote:
MSE vs Avira vs Avast vs AVG?


Avira used to be high on the list, but then it fell when put up against avast 6, don't know where it is now though. AVG is out of the picture. MSE is good but its really bad when it comes to removal. Avast has a built in behavioural detector, so thats a plus.

Its either Avira or Avast if you want something solid. I would just skip antivirus software entirely and get a HIPS like Online Armor, just educate yourself and you will know what to do whenever it pops up and asks you to whitelist or blacklist a process, etc.
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
May 29 2012 16:21 GMT
#2900
On May 30 2012 01:09 yann wrote:
Hello, I am looking for a Windows notebook which has the best quality integrated webcam (possibly for recording videos in 30FPS).

Is there anything better than Samsung 9 Series?


Lol, yes. 9 series only comes with a 1.3 MP webcam standard, it's also $1000 and has shit hardware. Ultra books are a terrible value for what you get. HP offers a number of models with a 2mp webcam.

But this is the absolute worst thing to base buying a laptop on. Most video chat software is going to compress the image anyway, so any additional quality you get from a 2mp webcam is lost anyway. If you're planning on doing vlogs or recordings, get a real webcam. Far more cost effective, you'll have a better webcam for the same price, and you won't be spending money on an overpriced POS laptop just to get a decent webcam.

I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
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