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On June 02 2012 03:48 JingleHell wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2012 03:40 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:On June 02 2012 02:57 JingleHell wrote:
Why are you building on X79 with an Asrock mobo and asking questions like this? Budget enthusiast shit is bad news, and if you need to ask that question, I can't see you getting most of the benefit of the platform.
The memory will work. It will run at 2133 assuming you clock it correctly, you just may have to manually do it, which can be an utter PITA. That's worst case.
Unless of course, the BIOS is a piece of shit, in which case you may not be able to force 2133 and may have to run 1866 or overvolt and run 2400. I think you're overestimating the value of OCed memory anyways, though. I talked to you about this like a week ago in PM world. I purchased the i7-3930l for 180$, I didn't blow 600$. If you wan to recommend a better board within 200-300$ cool. I had an Asus board for my previous build and it sucked, I replaced it with an asrock that overclocked better and works perfectly. The ram was more of a why not thing. It's discounted right now to 96$ on newegg and I figured why not? quad channel ram tended to be in that area anyway. I was initially going to buy corsair ram that was 1600mhz, but it was 8gb and 65$, so I figured I might as well double it and get better speed for like 30$ more. No, we talked about the 3930 price, not motherboards for it. Using an enthusiast rig with a cheap motherboard and/or shitty BIOS, well, that just prevents you getting all the benefits of the platform. (Oh by the way, Asrock is the Asus budget spinoff, so you didn't escape Asus, you just didn't buy the better version this time.) You're really justifying a lot of what we discussed in that conversation for me right now.
I assumed you were referring to me trying to buy a 230$ mobo with a 600$ chip, at which point I was pointing out that I didn't pay 600$ for the chip, meaning compariably the board is now the most expensive part of my build.
Like I said, if you want to recommend a board go ahead. There is no reason to be a dick, our conversation was that in a way, Best Buy is not as overpriced and you refused to admit it in the face of numbers. It had nothing to do with my lack of knowledge that Asus also makes Asrock. I don't spend all my time doing this shit, it's a part time job.
The boards features looked totally fine. What more could I need if you would care to enligthen me as opposed to being a dick.
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On June 02 2012 04:07 JingleHell wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2012 04:01 xeo1 wrote:On June 01 2012 17:04 Womwomwom wrote:On June 01 2012 14:46 xeo1 wrote:On May 31 2012 19:52 Womwomwom wrote:On May 31 2012 12:43 xeo1 wrote:
what could cause my screen to flash a black streak as I move around? my pc is brand new, i5 3570k/z77/8gb ram/gtx 460/430W. someone said I might have to match the game to my monitor's refresh rate or something like that. Try turning on vertical sync. Should be in game menu options (preferable) or you can force it through drivers (last resort). actually fixed it. I capped the framerate in variables.txt. however, I'm not sure what's better, capping it to 60 or 120? Depends on your screen. If your screen can do 120hz, choose 120. If your screen can only do 60hz, choose 60. okay. I am referring to this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=313793some guy said 60, another said 120 because it's the smoothest. but my monitor is LCD and can only do 60hz. If your display can't go above 60 hz means it refreshes 60 times per second. Meaning you could have 36 billion FPS and still not detect a difference above 60. Aside from all the violent screen tearing.
okay thanks, so I capped it to 30 in menus and 60 in game.
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On June 02 2012 04:14 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2012 03:48 JingleHell wrote:On June 02 2012 03:40 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:On June 02 2012 02:57 JingleHell wrote:
Why are you building on X79 with an Asrock mobo and asking questions like this? Budget enthusiast shit is bad news, and if you need to ask that question, I can't see you getting most of the benefit of the platform.
The memory will work. It will run at 2133 assuming you clock it correctly, you just may have to manually do it, which can be an utter PITA. That's worst case.
Unless of course, the BIOS is a piece of shit, in which case you may not be able to force 2133 and may have to run 1866 or overvolt and run 2400. I think you're overestimating the value of OCed memory anyways, though. I talked to you about this like a week ago in PM world. I purchased the i7-3930l for 180$, I didn't blow 600$. If you wan to recommend a better board within 200-300$ cool. I had an Asus board for my previous build and it sucked, I replaced it with an asrock that overclocked better and works perfectly. The ram was more of a why not thing. It's discounted right now to 96$ on newegg and I figured why not? quad channel ram tended to be in that area anyway. I was initially going to buy corsair ram that was 1600mhz, but it was 8gb and 65$, so I figured I might as well double it and get better speed for like 30$ more. No, we talked about the 3930 price, not motherboards for it. Using an enthusiast rig with a cheap motherboard and/or shitty BIOS, well, that just prevents you getting all the benefits of the platform. (Oh by the way, Asrock is the Asus budget spinoff, so you didn't escape Asus, you just didn't buy the better version this time.) You're really justifying a lot of what we discussed in that conversation for me right now. I assumed you were referring to me trying to buy a 230$ mobo with a 600$ chip, at which point I was pointing out that I didn't pay 600$ for the chip, meaning compariably the board is now the most expensive part of my build. Like I said, if you want to recommend a board go ahead. There is no reason to be a dick, our conversation was that in a way, Best Buy is not as overpriced and you refused to admit it in the face of numbers. It had nothing to do with my lack of knowledge that Asus also makes Asrock. I don't spend all my time doing this shit, it's a part time job. The boards features looked totally fine. What more could I need if you would care to enligthen me as opposed to being a dick.
Who's being a dick? I've already told you what you need. More knowledge of what you're getting and what it can do for you, and how to do it. A good BIOS. Reliable brands. Even at the Intel Retail Edge price, it's only better price/performance than an i5 rig if you know what it's going to help with and need it to help with those things.
I never refused to admit anything. If you want to drag that whole conversation public, I'll be happy to copy/paste it in here. Otherwise, you'd do best to leave it to vague references like I did. I won't take kindly to assertations that it went differently than it did.
What benefit do you think you're going to get, for what purposes, from X79, and how do you intend to get them? If you're building on that platform, based on your extensive knowledge and superior Geek Squad training, you certainly shouldn't need advice from some under-informed dick, right?
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I'm watching slivko's stream and he has 20 workers mining and when he clicks something it selects only 4 automatically to keep 16 mining all the time and takes the extra 4 to another base. does anyone know how to do this?
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On June 02 2012 05:14 xeo1 wrote:
I'm watching slivko's stream and he has 20 workers mining and when he clicks something it selects only 4 automatically to keep 16 mining all the time and takes the extra 4 to another base. does anyone know how to do this?
Check which sub-forum you're in?
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On June 02 2012 04:14 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2012 03:48 JingleHell wrote:On June 02 2012 03:40 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:On June 02 2012 02:57 JingleHell wrote:
Why are you building on X79 with an Asrock mobo and asking questions like this? Budget enthusiast shit is bad news, and if you need to ask that question, I can't see you getting most of the benefit of the platform.
The memory will work. It will run at 2133 assuming you clock it correctly, you just may have to manually do it, which can be an utter PITA. That's worst case.
Unless of course, the BIOS is a piece of shit, in which case you may not be able to force 2133 and may have to run 1866 or overvolt and run 2400. I think you're overestimating the value of OCed memory anyways, though. I talked to you about this like a week ago in PM world. I purchased the i7-3930l for 180$, I didn't blow 600$. If you wan to recommend a better board within 200-300$ cool. I had an Asus board for my previous build and it sucked, I replaced it with an asrock that overclocked better and works perfectly. The ram was more of a why not thing. It's discounted right now to 96$ on newegg and I figured why not? quad channel ram tended to be in that area anyway. I was initially going to buy corsair ram that was 1600mhz, but it was 8gb and 65$, so I figured I might as well double it and get better speed for like 30$ more. No, we talked about the 3930 price, not motherboards for it. Using an enthusiast rig with a cheap motherboard and/or shitty BIOS, well, that just prevents you getting all the benefits of the platform. (Oh by the way, Asrock is the Asus budget spinoff, so you didn't escape Asus, you just didn't buy the better version this time.) You're really justifying a lot of what we discussed in that conversation for me right now. I assumed you were referring to me trying to buy a 230$ mobo with a 600$ chip, at which point I was pointing out that I didn't pay 600$ for the chip, meaning compariably the board is now the most expensive part of my build. Like I said, if you want to recommend a board go ahead. There is no reason to be a dick, our conversation was that in a way, Best Buy is not as overpriced and you refused to admit it in the face of numbers. It had nothing to do with my lack of knowledge that Asus also makes Asrock. I don't spend all my time doing this shit, it's a part time job. The boards features looked totally fine. What more could I need if you would care to enligthen me as opposed to being a dick.
What the duck?
Please tell me you're joking? And don't give me #s to compare from the website.
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On June 02 2012 05:43 jacosajh wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2012 04:14 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:On June 02 2012 03:48 JingleHell wrote:On June 02 2012 03:40 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:On June 02 2012 02:57 JingleHell wrote:
Why are you building on X79 with an Asrock mobo and asking questions like this? Budget enthusiast shit is bad news, and if you need to ask that question, I can't see you getting most of the benefit of the platform.
The memory will work. It will run at 2133 assuming you clock it correctly, you just may have to manually do it, which can be an utter PITA. That's worst case.
Unless of course, the BIOS is a piece of shit, in which case you may not be able to force 2133 and may have to run 1866 or overvolt and run 2400. I think you're overestimating the value of OCed memory anyways, though. I talked to you about this like a week ago in PM world. I purchased the i7-3930l for 180$, I didn't blow 600$. If you wan to recommend a better board within 200-300$ cool. I had an Asus board for my previous build and it sucked, I replaced it with an asrock that overclocked better and works perfectly. The ram was more of a why not thing. It's discounted right now to 96$ on newegg and I figured why not? quad channel ram tended to be in that area anyway. I was initially going to buy corsair ram that was 1600mhz, but it was 8gb and 65$, so I figured I might as well double it and get better speed for like 30$ more. No, we talked about the 3930 price, not motherboards for it. Using an enthusiast rig with a cheap motherboard and/or shitty BIOS, well, that just prevents you getting all the benefits of the platform. (Oh by the way, Asrock is the Asus budget spinoff, so you didn't escape Asus, you just didn't buy the better version this time.) You're really justifying a lot of what we discussed in that conversation for me right now. I assumed you were referring to me trying to buy a 230$ mobo with a 600$ chip, at which point I was pointing out that I didn't pay 600$ for the chip, meaning compariably the board is now the most expensive part of my build. Like I said, if you want to recommend a board go ahead. There is no reason to be a dick, our conversation was that in a way, Best Buy is not as overpriced and you refused to admit it in the face of numbers. It had nothing to do with my lack of knowledge that Asus also makes Asrock. I don't spend all my time doing this shit, it's a part time job. The boards features looked totally fine. What more could I need if you would care to enligthen me as opposed to being a dick. What the duck? Please tell me you're joking? And don't give me #s to compare from the website.
His entire argument was based on the annual 3 machine service plan, which, as he seems to have forgotten, I agreed wasn't nearly as bad on pricing as individual services, assuming people who get the plan are actually capable of recognizing issues and bringing the machines in.
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Haha, love reading jingleHells replies to people. So many noobs take what jinglehell says too hard and literal. Too busy trying to make legends out of themselves by asking, yet refusing to accept any answer/advice given to them.
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On June 02 2012 06:26 m1rk3 wrote:
Haha, love reading jingleHells replies to people. So many noobs take what jinglehell says too hard and literal. Too busy trying to make legends out of themselves by asking, yet refusing to accept any answer/advice given to them.
He definitely didn't take what I said literally. Hence why when I suggested showing the conversation, he seemed to remember more of how it went, and dropped that line. No harm, no foul.
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i mean if you're gonna ask for help but don't take any advice then why the fuck are you asking for help? (speaking generally at some people around here)
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Asus and AsRock have different design teams, different customer service departments, etc. so I wouldn't much think that there's a point to bringing up the financial connection via Pegatron now. Actually, didn't Asus recently release their stake in Pegatron, which owns AsRock?
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On June 02 2012 06:33 Myrmidon wrote:
Asus and AsRock have different design teams, different customer service departments, etc. so I wouldn't much think that there's a point to bringing up the financial connection via Pegatron now. Actually, didn't Asus recently release their stake in Pegatron, which owns AsRock?
Good question, but they were still spun off from Asus as the budget brand, if he doesn't like Asus, and expects better from Asrock, well, that's the sort of association I'd be avoiding at that point.
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Today I received all of my parts to build my computer. I installed all of the hardware components, and plugged in all the PSU cables. To no surprise the computer did not turn on. The PSU cables I think is where my problem is residing, because I'm pretty sure all the hardware was put in correctly. It might also be notable to mention that my tower came with some cables of its own. USB and SATA I think? I plugged in the USB fine, though I couldn't find anything to use the SATA cables for. I'm using a Corsair 500W ATX12V Power Supply and NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case. Thought I'd at least post here while I continue to troubleshoot.
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On June 02 2012 08:46 Sovano wrote:
Today I received all of my parts to build my computer. I installed all of the hardware components, and plugged in all the PSU cables. To no surprise the computer did not turn on. The PSU cables I think is where my problem is residing, because I'm pretty sure all the hardware was put in correctly. It might also be notable to mention that my tower came with some cables of its own. USB and SATA I think? I plugged in the USB fine, though I couldn't find anything to use the SATA cables for. I'm using a Corsair 500W ATX12V Power Supply and NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case. Thought I'd at least post here while I continue to troubleshoot.
Did you flip the switch on the back of the PSU? Did you install motherboard standoffs? Did you plug in both the 24pin motherboard, and either a 4pin or 8pin for the CPU? Did you hook up the case headers properly to the motherboard?
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On June 02 2012 08:51 JingleHell wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2012 08:46 Sovano wrote:
Today I received all of my parts to build my computer. I installed all of the hardware components, and plugged in all the PSU cables. To no surprise the computer did not turn on. The PSU cables I think is where my problem is residing, because I'm pretty sure all the hardware was put in correctly. It might also be notable to mention that my tower came with some cables of its own. USB and SATA I think? I plugged in the USB fine, though I couldn't find anything to use the SATA cables for. I'm using a Corsair 500W ATX12V Power Supply and NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case. Thought I'd at least post here while I continue to troubleshoot. Did you flip the switch on the back of the PSU? Did you install motherboard standoffs? Did you plug in both the 24pin motherboard, and either a 4pin or 8pin for the CPU? Did you hook up the case headers properly to the motherboard?
Yes I made sure to switch the flip on the PSU. The motherboard standoffs are installed. The 24 pin connector is on the motherboard for sure. The 8 pin for my CPU took a while, because I had only 4 for my motherboard, but figured out the 8 pin could be two 4 pin connectors, so I detached one and plugged that in next to the CPU. Though I'm not sure what you mean by case headers. I'm assuming that's the cables that came with my tower/case.
Was checking my case headers (assuming I assumed what they were correctly in my last two sentences), it turns out there were 5 mini pins I forgot to connect. They were called like "Power S, HDD LED, P+, and etc". I'll try plugging those in and seeing how it works out.
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On June 02 2012 09:01 Sovano wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2012 08:51 JingleHell wrote:On June 02 2012 08:46 Sovano wrote:
Today I received all of my parts to build my computer. I installed all of the hardware components, and plugged in all the PSU cables. To no surprise the computer did not turn on. The PSU cables I think is where my problem is residing, because I'm pretty sure all the hardware was put in correctly. It might also be notable to mention that my tower came with some cables of its own. USB and SATA I think? I plugged in the USB fine, though I couldn't find anything to use the SATA cables for. I'm using a Corsair 500W ATX12V Power Supply and NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case. Thought I'd at least post here while I continue to troubleshoot. Did you flip the switch on the back of the PSU? Did you install motherboard standoffs? Did you plug in both the 24pin motherboard, and either a 4pin or 8pin for the CPU? Did you hook up the case headers properly to the motherboard? Yes I made sure to switch the flip on the PSU. The motherboard standoffs are installed. The 24 pin connector is on the motherboard for sure. The 8 pin for my CPU took a while, because I had only 4 for my motherboard, but figured out the 8 pin could be two 4 pin connectors, so I detached one and plugged that in next to the CPU. Though I'm not sure what you mean by case headers. I'm assuming that's the cables that came with my tower/case. Was checking my case headers (assuming I assumed what they were correctly in my last two sentences), it turns out there were 5 mini pins I forgot to connect. They were called like "Power S, HDD LED, P+, and etc". I'll try plugging those in and seeing how it works out.
Power S sounds suspiciously like "power switch" and yes, those are the ones I meant. Since the power switch on the case can't tell the mobo to boot without that wire... you get the idea?
Easy to miss. You wouldn't believe the full list of dumb shit I've pulled off working on PCs. The better you are, the longer the list of boneheaded fuckups gets. And the more inexcusable most of them are.
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On June 02 2012 09:02 JingleHell wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2012 09:01 Sovano wrote:On June 02 2012 08:51 JingleHell wrote:On June 02 2012 08:46 Sovano wrote:
Today I received all of my parts to build my computer. I installed all of the hardware components, and plugged in all the PSU cables. To no surprise the computer did not turn on. The PSU cables I think is where my problem is residing, because I'm pretty sure all the hardware was put in correctly. It might also be notable to mention that my tower came with some cables of its own. USB and SATA I think? I plugged in the USB fine, though I couldn't find anything to use the SATA cables for. I'm using a Corsair 500W ATX12V Power Supply and NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case. Thought I'd at least post here while I continue to troubleshoot. Did you flip the switch on the back of the PSU? Did you install motherboard standoffs? Did you plug in both the 24pin motherboard, and either a 4pin or 8pin for the CPU? Did you hook up the case headers properly to the motherboard? Yes I made sure to switch the flip on the PSU. The motherboard standoffs are installed. The 24 pin connector is on the motherboard for sure. The 8 pin for my CPU took a while, because I had only 4 for my motherboard, but figured out the 8 pin could be two 4 pin connectors, so I detached one and plugged that in next to the CPU. Though I'm not sure what you mean by case headers. I'm assuming that's the cables that came with my tower/case. Was checking my case headers (assuming I assumed what they were correctly in my last two sentences), it turns out there were 5 mini pins I forgot to connect. They were called like "Power S, HDD LED, P+, and etc". I'll try plugging those in and seeing how it works out. Power S sounds suspiciously like "power switch" and yes, those are the ones I meant. Since the power switch on the case can't tell the mobo to boot without that wire... you get the idea? Easy to miss. You wouldn't believe the full list of dumb shit I've pulled off working on PCs. The better you are, the longer the list of boneheaded fuckups gets. And the more inexcusable most of them are.
I feel silly, because I can't find any single place to place them in my motherboard lol....
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On June 02 2012 09:05 Sovano wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2012 09:02 JingleHell wrote:On June 02 2012 09:01 Sovano wrote:On June 02 2012 08:51 JingleHell wrote:On June 02 2012 08:46 Sovano wrote:
Today I received all of my parts to build my computer. I installed all of the hardware components, and plugged in all the PSU cables. To no surprise the computer did not turn on. The PSU cables I think is where my problem is residing, because I'm pretty sure all the hardware was put in correctly. It might also be notable to mention that my tower came with some cables of its own. USB and SATA I think? I plugged in the USB fine, though I couldn't find anything to use the SATA cables for. I'm using a Corsair 500W ATX12V Power Supply and NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case. Thought I'd at least post here while I continue to troubleshoot. Did you flip the switch on the back of the PSU? Did you install motherboard standoffs? Did you plug in both the 24pin motherboard, and either a 4pin or 8pin for the CPU? Did you hook up the case headers properly to the motherboard? Yes I made sure to switch the flip on the PSU. The motherboard standoffs are installed. The 24 pin connector is on the motherboard for sure. The 8 pin for my CPU took a while, because I had only 4 for my motherboard, but figured out the 8 pin could be two 4 pin connectors, so I detached one and plugged that in next to the CPU. Though I'm not sure what you mean by case headers. I'm assuming that's the cables that came with my tower/case. Was checking my case headers (assuming I assumed what they were correctly in my last two sentences), it turns out there were 5 mini pins I forgot to connect. They were called like "Power S, HDD LED, P+, and etc". I'll try plugging those in and seeing how it works out. Power S sounds suspiciously like "power switch" and yes, those are the ones I meant. Since the power switch on the case can't tell the mobo to boot without that wire... you get the idea? Easy to miss. You wouldn't believe the full list of dumb shit I've pulled off working on PCs. The better you are, the longer the list of boneheaded fuckups gets. And the more inexcusable most of them are. I feel silly, because I can't find any single place to place them in my motherboard lol....
There should be a row of pins, usually next to the SATA ports on the motherboard. Check the manual if you can't find them.
You'd feel sillier if you'd done something like disassemble your GPUs for cleaning and re-pasting and forgetting to plug in the PCIE connectors to them, or the SLI bridge afterwards, and were me. I've done both.
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On June 02 2012 09:08 JingleHell wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2012 09:05 Sovano wrote:On June 02 2012 09:02 JingleHell wrote:On June 02 2012 09:01 Sovano wrote:On June 02 2012 08:51 JingleHell wrote:On June 02 2012 08:46 Sovano wrote:
Today I received all of my parts to build my computer. I installed all of the hardware components, and plugged in all the PSU cables. To no surprise the computer did not turn on. The PSU cables I think is where my problem is residing, because I'm pretty sure all the hardware was put in correctly. It might also be notable to mention that my tower came with some cables of its own. USB and SATA I think? I plugged in the USB fine, though I couldn't find anything to use the SATA cables for. I'm using a Corsair 500W ATX12V Power Supply and NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case. Thought I'd at least post here while I continue to troubleshoot. Did you flip the switch on the back of the PSU? Did you install motherboard standoffs? Did you plug in both the 24pin motherboard, and either a 4pin or 8pin for the CPU? Did you hook up the case headers properly to the motherboard? Yes I made sure to switch the flip on the PSU. The motherboard standoffs are installed. The 24 pin connector is on the motherboard for sure. The 8 pin for my CPU took a while, because I had only 4 for my motherboard, but figured out the 8 pin could be two 4 pin connectors, so I detached one and plugged that in next to the CPU. Though I'm not sure what you mean by case headers. I'm assuming that's the cables that came with my tower/case. Was checking my case headers (assuming I assumed what they were correctly in my last two sentences), it turns out there were 5 mini pins I forgot to connect. They were called like "Power S, HDD LED, P+, and etc". I'll try plugging those in and seeing how it works out. Power S sounds suspiciously like "power switch" and yes, those are the ones I meant. Since the power switch on the case can't tell the mobo to boot without that wire... you get the idea? Easy to miss. You wouldn't believe the full list of dumb shit I've pulled off working on PCs. The better you are, the longer the list of boneheaded fuckups gets. And the more inexcusable most of them are. I feel silly, because I can't find any single place to place them in my motherboard lol.... There should be a row of pins, usually next to the SATA ports on the motherboard. Check the manual if you can't find them. You'd feel sillier if you'd done something like disassemble your GPUs for cleaning and re-pasting and forgetting to plug in the PCIE connectors to them, or the SLI bridge afterwards, and were me. I've done both.
Well I found them and plugged them in. Still nothing happens when I try to turn it on, I'm going to plug out all the PSU cables and try again,
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On June 02 2012 06:33 Myrmidon wrote:
Asus and AsRock have different design teams, different customer service departments, etc. so I wouldn't much think that there's a point to bringing up the financial connection via Pegatron now. Actually, didn't Asus recently release their stake in Pegatron, which owns AsRock?
I don't think ASRock is that bad anymore. I used to equate them to being the Great Value brand at Wal-Mart (which I found out recently wasn't even that bad as well). I'd rather get ASRock over MSI or Gigabyte these days anyway.
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