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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On November 04 2011 10:16 skyR wrote: And you're doing something wrong if you can't fit a Corsair 600T in your $850 budget with those components since the case is only about ~$100. I thought it was like $100 / $130 / $160 for 400R / 500R / 600T. | ||
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Xingke
United States78 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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URfavHO
United States514 Posts
My friend is in the process of building a new computer. He has settled on the 560 Ti but isn't sure which one he wants. He currently resides in California; as such, his preferences for shopping will be Micro Center, Fry's, and Newegg. These are the ones that he is currently deciding between the following: GeForce GTX 560 Ti DS Superclocked 240 after mail in rebate. GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) superclocked 230 after mail in rebate GeForce GTX 560 Ti FPB (Fermi) 1GB 230 after mail in rebate | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On November 04 2011 10:36 tryclops wrote:+ Show Spoiler + hello, My friend is in the process of building a new computer. He has settled on the 560 Ti but isn't sure which one he wants. He currently resides in California; as such, his preferences for shopping will be Micro Center, Fry's, and Newegg. These are the ones that he is currently deciding between the following: GeForce GTX 560 Ti DS Superclocked 240 after mail in rebate. GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) superclocked 230 after mail in rebate GeForce GTX 560 Ti FPB (Fermi) 1GB 230 after mail in rebate If you don't care about brand (but it seems like you do) and want to deal with mail in rebates than this Galaxy for $200 after mail in rebate: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814162074 If you want lifetime warranty than the EVGA -AR for $250 ($230 after mail in rebate): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130610 If three year warranty is fine and you want a good heatsink for overclocking than the MSI Twin Frozr II for $220 after mail in rebate: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127594 | ||
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Madoga
Netherlands471 Posts
On November 04 2011 04:32 Myrmidon wrote: I wouldn't go lower than 400W with overclocked Bloomfield i7 (including the motherboard, you may be looking at almost 100W more than an overclocked i5-2500k but probably not quite that much higher at 3.5 GHz depending on voltage) and HD 6950 (no voltage change; shouldn't go over 200W). Athlon II X4 isn't close in power consumption to overclocked i7-9xx. Golden Green 400W sounds like a good idea to me then. Earthwatts Green 380D or similar with Bloomfield i7 overclocked at full load + HD 6950 at full load...I'm not so sure. I'm not a fan of cheap speaker sets, as they tend to sound worse than comparably-priced headphones. So I don't know about that, sorry. Allready have the headphones, just need the speakers so my girlfriend will stop whining she wants to watch something with me. Not really worried the golden green 400W wont be enough, the rest of the system is very minimal. I allso wont be benchmarking (unless I want to stresstest something, which wont be often). Guru3d and Anandtech allso tested a similar setup + 6950 for 310-320W(if i remember correctly). anyway, still looking for that speaker set, anyone know anything good? | ||
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JJGamer
United States76 Posts
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Womwomwom
5930 Posts
There's a lot of factors involved but the largest, easy to determine discrepancy I can think of is if you're running an AMD system and he's running an Intel system. No idea about the server side of things but AMD's native SATA implementation is terrible compared to Intel's. So an AMD system with a Caviar Black will generally be a little bit slower than a similar Intel system with a Caviar Black when it comes to I/O speeds. If your SSD is losing to his mechanical hard disks, then you're doing something extremely wrong. Even the worst SSD destroys the best mechanical hard disk in terms of random read speeds. If that's the case, what SSD do you have? And did you try and be smart and tweak Window's settings to get mad benefits? I mean if you're not going to be detailed with your queries, there isn't much to do but shoot into the dark and make dumb assumptions. | ||
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Davee
United States38 Posts
I have an EL1310-01. For specs: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883114071 Can you guys recommend what kind of upgrades for I would need to be able to run StarCraft 2? Maybe several cases like 1) sc2 - 1v1 on low 1280x720 2) sc2 - 1v1 on low 1920x1080 3) sc2 - 4v4 on low 1280x720 4) sc2 - 4v4 on low 1920x1080 Also, which build is capable of watching movies in 720p or 1080p and which would be able to stream? All I know is that the machine requires a low profile card and the psu is smaller. Which option would be best bang for buck? Thank you | ||
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_syphon_
United States12 Posts
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Medrea
10003 Posts
On November 05 2011 05:36 Davee wrote: Hi guys I have an EL1310-01. For specs: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883114071 Can you guys recommend what kind of upgrades for I would need to be able to run StarCraft 2? Maybe several cases like 1) sc2 - 1v1 on low 1280x720 2) sc2 - 1v1 on low 1920x1080 3) sc2 - 4v4 on low 1280x720 4) sc2 - 4v4 on low 1920x1080 Also, which build is capable of watching movies in 720p or 1080p and which would be able to stream? All I know is that the machine requires a low profile card and the psu is smaller. Which option would be best bang for buck? Thank you None of these components are supported (except for the graphics card, and SC2 is CPU intensive), so the expense required to update this setup will likely cost close to purchasing a whole new one from scratch. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On November 05 2011 05:36 Davee wrote: Hi guys I have an EL1310-01. For specs: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883114071 Can you guys recommend what kind of upgrades for I would need to be able to run StarCraft 2? Maybe several cases like 1) sc2 - 1v1 on low 1280x720 2) sc2 - 1v1 on low 1920x1080 3) sc2 - 4v4 on low 1280x720 4) sc2 - 4v4 on low 1920x1080 Also, which build is capable of watching movies in 720p or 1080p and which would be able to stream? All I know is that the machine requires a low profile card and the psu is smaller. Which option would be best bang for buck? Thank you It's hard to do a specific breakdown since it will depend on what kind of fps you can tolerate and the maps, game situations, and so on. Suffice to say that you need to pretty much start from scratch. You absolutely need a new CPU, and nothing worthwhile is compatible with the motherboard. And a new motherboard requires DDR3 RAM (edit: fixed typo, DD3 -> DDR3). And you need a graphics card. You can keep the optical drive and hard drive. I wouldn't trust expensive new components to a 220W low-budget eMachines PSU (so that needs replacing), and the case is somewhat limiting anyway, so I wouldn't keep that either unless you absolutely must. Fortunately, if just on low, you can easily get by with a $50 graphics card. You're looking at around $60 for the CPU for 1v1 with no hope for streaming ($190 if you would want to stream and have better performance otherwise, like for 4v4), $50-70 for motherboard, $20-35 for RAM, $50 for GPU. ~$40 for PSU since quality low-wattage units that are cheaper are not really available at retail, $40 or so for case. $60 CPU would be a Sandy Bridge dual core Celeron (not G440). $190 would be Core i5-2x00. You're looking for a H61 motherboard, 2 x 2GB DDR3 RAM or 2 x 4GB DDR3 RAM (price difference is very small these days), maybe a HD 5570. HD 6450 could handle low, but it isn't much cheaper than 5570, and the 5570 is considerably better. | ||
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zoLo
United States5896 Posts
What is your budget? Maximum $800 What is your resolution? He is planning on buying a new monitor down the line. Would like to play on 1080P if possible. What are you using it for? Mainly gaming. What is your upgrade cycle? About every 2.5 - 3 years. When do you plan on building it? By the end of the year. Do you plan on overclocking? No. Do you need an Operating System? Yes. Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? No. Where are you buying your parts from? Newegg, Amazon, TigerDirect, Fry's Electronics, Micro Center, etc. It all depends on the price. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074 GIGABYTE GA-H61M-DS2 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128527 560 Ti: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125401 8GB RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820576006 the cheapest 500GB HDD I can find on newegg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145299 450W 80+ Bronze PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171060 Asgard II case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811815004 Cheapest DVD-RW: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106334 Of course just a guideline. | ||
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Xingke
United States78 Posts
I noticed the Corsair A70 is $39 on newegg, down from $50 or 60 the last time I checked. I've gotten comments saying it is much better than the Hyper 212, and has a much better mounting system. I also read several reviews saying the A70 is a pain to install, and most all reviews say the Hyper 212 has a nightmare mounting system. I've watched installation videos on both and both seem pretty simple to me though. Anyway, should I get the A70 for $39 or the Hyper 212 EVO for $35? How much difference is there between them in cooling power? Which is really better? Also I will be using an ASRock Extreme3 Gen 3 MB. Will these coolers keep me from using the first ram slot if I use low profile ram? | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
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JJGamer
United States76 Posts
On November 05 2011 00:06 Womwomwom wrote: Mechanical hard disks can't even saturate SATA2 fully so I'm not surprised SATA3 isn't doing anything with that Caviar Black. Tech companies gotta keep stacking random acronyms so they can make money; SATA3 is today's buzzword for the mechanical hard disk market in an attempt to increase profit margins. There's a lot of factors involved but the largest, easy to determine discrepancy I can think of is if you're running an AMD system and he's running an Intel system. No idea about the server side of things but AMD's native SATA implementation is terrible compared to Intel's. So an AMD system with a Caviar Black will generally be a little bit slower than a similar Intel system with a Caviar Black when it comes to I/O speeds. If your SSD is losing to his mechanical hard disks, then you're doing something extremely wrong. Even the worst SSD destroys the best mechanical hard disk in terms of random read speeds. If that's the case, what SSD do you have? And did you try and be smart and tweak Window's settings to get mad benefits? I mean if you're not going to be detailed with your queries, there isn't much to do but shoot into the dark and make dumb assumptions. I have an i5-2500k and a Crucial M4 SSD. What kind of details do you need to know? At first, i thought it's maybe because the loading parts of these games don't rely heavily on the specs of your comp but more on your internet speed. But my internet is more superior than his as well. So please let me know what I'm doing wrong. And what do i need to do to optimally tweak my hdd and ssd to reap the benefits of them? | ||
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Womwomwom
5930 Posts
So your SSD is losing to his mechanical hard disks? If your losing by a lot, you have an issue which will be hard to determine without me going to your house and breaking your computer apart. Is Starcraft 2 on the SSD? If it isn't, then there is your answer - shit needs to be on the SSD to be fast. Is the SSD slow to boot up Windows? If not, don't worry about it because your SSD is working as intended. | ||
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JJGamer
United States76 Posts
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