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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
November 05 2011 03:16 GMT
#14141
I don't think you addressed this directly, but the games you're talking about are all installed on the SSD, right?

You said he was on lower graphics settings? Maybe you have more graphics textures and such to load than he does (try lowering graphics settings).
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
November 05 2011 03:17 GMT
#14142
It should but only if the programs are installed on the SSD. Anyway, I wouldn't worry too much about it if everything else feels snappy.
JJGamer
Profile Joined May 2011
United States76 Posts
November 05 2011 03:19 GMT
#14143
I switched the motherboard into AHCI mode and I see a slight difference in speed and Starcraft 2 is on my SSD. When I boot up, it's fast but it gets stuck on loading Window screen for like around 30 secs. I don't seem to know why and I looked it up on Google and it seems to happen to a lot of people with Windows 7.
JJGamer
Profile Joined May 2011
United States76 Posts
November 05 2011 03:23 GMT
#14144
On November 05 2011 12:16 Myrmidon wrote:
I don't think you addressed this directly, but the games you're talking about are all installed on the SSD, right?

You said he was on lower graphics settings? Maybe you have more graphics textures and such to load than he does (try lowering graphics settings).


I have Starcraft 2 and League of Legends in my SSD and BF3 in my Caviar Black. Either way I would imagine I would slaughter my friends in terms of loading into the game.
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
November 05 2011 03:29 GMT
#14145
The only two things I can think of is to check your SSD's firmware and make sure the SSD is plugged into the 1st party Intel SATA ports and not the god awful 3rd party implementations.
JJGamer
Profile Joined May 2011
United States76 Posts
November 05 2011 04:16 GMT
#14146
On November 05 2011 12:29 Womwomwom wrote:
The only two things I can think of is to check your SSD's firmware and make sure the SSD is plugged into the 1st party Intel SATA ports and not the god awful 3rd party implementations.


The question is do SSDs or HDDs have anything to do with the preloading section of the mentioned games?
Quartal
Profile Joined April 2011
140 Posts
November 05 2011 04:42 GMT
#14147
Yes and No. If you have crappy internet, then that will slow you down first. Also consider that when in multiplayer, it is highly unlikely that both of you have your games on SSDs, so you'll probably be waiting for your opponent anyways regardless of whether your game is on a 7200rpm HDD or an SSD.
JJGamer
Profile Joined May 2011
United States76 Posts
November 05 2011 04:52 GMT
#14148
On November 05 2011 13:42 iREight wrote:
Yes and No. If you have crappy internet, then that will slow you down first. Also consider that when in multiplayer, it is highly unlikely that both of you have your games on SSDs, so you'll probably be waiting for your opponent anyways regardless of whether your game is on a 7200rpm HDD or an SSD.


I understand but I would love to see me load faster than everyone else. In other words, I wanna see my money's worth.
babyface
Profile Joined April 2010
United States40 Posts
November 05 2011 08:46 GMT
#14149
What is your budget?

$1000

What is your resolution?

1920x1080

What are you using it for?

mostly gaming.

What is your upgrade cycle?

2 years maybe?

When do you plan on building it?


in the next couple of days.

Do you plan on overclocking?


maybe...

Do you need an Operating System?

no.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

no.

Where are you buying your parts from?


newegg


Thanks in advance!
LMPeaches
Profile Joined December 2010
United States157 Posts
November 05 2011 13:53 GMT
#14150
I need help finding some good items that fit this price range, so i have an idea what to look for during this month's sales.
+ Show Spoiler +
What is your budget?

$800 But can go +100 more

What is your resolution?

1920x1080

What are you using it for?

gaming

What is your upgrade cycle?

Until this thing dies

When do you plan on building it?

This month

Do you plan on overclocking?

yes

Do you need an Operating System?

no.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

no.

Where are you buying your parts from?

newegg, microcenter. I have a nearby tigerdirect/compusa that i can drive to as well.


Thanks in advance!
Running is the only real sport, everything else is just a game
aax5
Profile Joined August 2011
United States54 Posts
November 05 2011 17:45 GMT
#14151
ASRock P67 PRO3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230 $120 (10MIR)

Cooler Maste Hyper 212 Plus
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0315397 $24

For what overclock should this hold up?
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-05 18:08:12
November 05 2011 18:06 GMT
#14152
@LMPeaches:

see below for the kind of parts in that price range. With sales it would be a little cheaper.


@babyface:
This week NCIX has better sales, so...

Core i5-2500k - $215
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=57962&promoid=1368

Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus - $28
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=41337

+ Show Spoiler [alternative coolers] +
For a little extra, you can get something a little better, with better (less of a hassle) mounting systems too.

Gelid Tranquillo Rev2 - $40
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=63759

Zalman CNPS10X Performa - $40
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=51106

MSI P67A-G43 - $120
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=59095&promoid=1287

Mushkin 2 x 4GB DDR3 RAM - $38
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=55544&promoid=1287

EVGA GTX 560 Ti - $240
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=60803&promoid=1287

Crucial M4 64GB SSD (for OS, programs) - $109
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=60444&promoid=1287

Hitachi 7K1000.C 500GB - $60
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=57878

LG CD / DVD-RW - $17
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=60731&promoid=1287

SATA cable - $2
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=15994

Antec Earthwatts Green 650W (no you don't need half this much power, but the price is good) - $52
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=59339

Cooler Master HAF 912 - $56
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=55583

Shipping is free on order I think.


On November 06 2011 02:45 aax5 wrote:
ASRock P67 PRO3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230 $120 (10MIR)

Cooler Maste Hyper 212 Plus
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0315397 $24

For what overclock should this hold up?

For practical purposes, about as high as your chip will go at the voltage you select. It will vary from sample to sample. The CPU itself will be more of the limiting factor than the motherboard or cooling (of course better cooling can help slightly and so can better motherboard VRMs).
gruff
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden2276 Posts
November 05 2011 18:16 GMT
#14153
On November 05 2011 13:52 JJGamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 13:42 iREight wrote:
Yes and No. If you have crappy internet, then that will slow you down first. Also consider that when in multiplayer, it is highly unlikely that both of you have your games on SSDs, so you'll probably be waiting for your opponent anyways regardless of whether your game is on a 7200rpm HDD or an SSD.


I understand but I would love to see me load faster than everyone else. In other words, I wanna see my money's worth.


There are free test programs to test the speed of your ssd. Try one and see if you get the speeds advertised. I don't remember the names but you can probably google them.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
November 05 2011 18:24 GMT
#14154
On November 06 2011 03:16 gruff wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 13:52 JJGamer wrote:
On November 05 2011 13:42 iREight wrote:
Yes and No. If you have crappy internet, then that will slow you down first. Also consider that when in multiplayer, it is highly unlikely that both of you have your games on SSDs, so you'll probably be waiting for your opponent anyways regardless of whether your game is on a 7200rpm HDD or an SSD.


I understand but I would love to see me load faster than everyone else. In other words, I wanna see my money's worth.


There are free test programs to test the speed of your ssd. Try one and see if you get the speeds advertised. I don't remember the names but you can probably google them.


CrystalDiskMark is very simple, and you can compare results with those found online for your M4 and Caviar Black. There's also IOMeter, ATTO, also some of the PCMark benches I guess.
JJGamer
Profile Joined May 2011
United States76 Posts
November 05 2011 18:56 GMT
#14155
On November 06 2011 03:24 Myrmidon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2011 03:16 gruff wrote:
On November 05 2011 13:52 JJGamer wrote:
On November 05 2011 13:42 iREight wrote:
Yes and No. If you have crappy internet, then that will slow you down first. Also consider that when in multiplayer, it is highly unlikely that both of you have your games on SSDs, so you'll probably be waiting for your opponent anyways regardless of whether your game is on a 7200rpm HDD or an SSD.


I understand but I would love to see me load faster than everyone else. In other words, I wanna see my money's worth.


There are free test programs to test the speed of your ssd. Try one and see if you get the speeds advertised. I don't remember the names but you can probably google them.


CrystalDiskMark is very simple, and you can compare results with those found online for your M4 and Caviar Black. There's also IOMeter, ATTO, also some of the PCMark benches I guess.


Here is my result for my Crucial m4 from a CrystalDiskMark test:

-----------------------------------------------------------------------
CrystalDiskMark 3.0.1 x64 (C) 2007-2010 hiyohiyo
Crystal Dew World : http://crystalmark.info/
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
* MB/s = 1,000,000 byte/s [SATA/300 = 300,000,000 byte/s]

Sequential Read : 406.635 MB/s
Sequential Write : 103.737 MB/s
Random Read 512KB : 358.161 MB/s
Random Write 512KB : 77.993 MB/s
Random Read 4KB (QD=1) : 25.236 MB/s [ 6161.0 IOPS]
Random Write 4KB (QD=1) : 47.316 MB/s [ 11551.9 IOPS]
Random Read 4KB (QD=32) : 198.776 MB/s [ 48529.2 IOPS]
Random Write 4KB (QD=32) : 74.022 MB/s [ 18071.7 IOPS]

Test : 1000 MB [C: 94.3% (56.2/59.5 GB)] (x5)
Date : 2011/11/05 14:53:44
OS : Windows 7 Ultimate Edition SP1 [6.1 Build 7601] (x64)

Anything looks out of the ordinary?
Hikko
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1126 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-05 22:40:56
November 05 2011 22:39 GMT
#14156
I'm planning on getting the Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim, and I was looking into seeing if I needed to get a few computer parts to run it. My computer runs fine, and I can run SC2 on high settings without lagging in 1v1s (although I run it on low settings because I'm partially color blind, and the lighting makes some details hard to see).

If I run the systemsrequirementslab.com test, I get this

[image loading]

but when I run the game-o-meter thing

[image loading]

When I run dxdiag, it shows that I have 1650mb of video memory. I ran Oblivion and Fallout 3 just fine on pretty decent settings, and Crysis back when it was new and the shiznit.

Should I be fine? I wonder if the systemrequirements lab thing is giving me too much because I have a good amount of page file on my computer. Does that still let me have better graphics memory?

Also, if I need to upgrade something, what should I upgrade to? I have a desktop, and if I need something I want to get something cheap and low-end if possible, as I will be leaving early next summer for 2 years without a computer, so my computer is on its last legs of its use for me. sub-$50 before shipping on newegg would be nice.

Thank you!
♥
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 05 2011 22:51 GMT
#14157
1650mb of video memory doesn't matter when it's like DDR2 and you'll never be memorycapped by your card anyway. The memory doesn't really matter.


Also you'd probably be able to maybe play at 30 fps on minimum settings, that's my guess.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Xingke
Profile Joined August 2005
United States78 Posts
November 05 2011 22:54 GMT
#14158
Another question.

If I get a Corsair 600T Case, and a Corsair A70 cooler, will I have the clearance to mount fans on the inside of the mesh side panel?
LMPeaches
Profile Joined December 2010
United States157 Posts
November 06 2011 03:55 GMT
#14159
Do you guys think a 6950 2GB would be worth buying over a 560Ti 1GB for 1080p gaming?
Running is the only real sport, everything else is just a game
CharlieBrownsc
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada598 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-06 04:11:44
November 06 2011 04:11 GMT
#14160
On November 06 2011 12:55 LMPeaches wrote:
Do you guys think a 6950 2GB would be worth buying over a 560Ti 1GB for 1080p gaming?


No

1080p gaming won't even use 1GB of VRAM

If you do go with a 6950 just get a 1GB version
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