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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-06 23:42:43
November 06 2011 23:42 GMT
#14181
On November 07 2011 08:06 beefhamburger wrote:
For EVGA cards, what's the difference between -AR and -KR? As well as DS?


DS means double shot which is EVGA's equivalent to saying dual fans. AR has lifetime warranty as mentioned and KR has a three year warranty with the option of extending it to five or ten years by paying extra money.
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
November 06 2011 23:59 GMT
#14182
Oh ok. Thanks a lot for answering! First time trying to build a comp so I want to make sure I do stuff right and learn what's what =).
Phelix
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1931 Posts
November 07 2011 04:04 GMT
#14183
What is my budget?
$600

What is my resolution
Currently, I'm using a monitor that has a 1024x768 resolution.

What are you using it for?
Mostly gaming for BF3 and SC2 on high/ultra settings, if possible.

What is your upgrade cycle?
4+ years. I'm running a computer now that's 5+ years old.

When do you plan on building it?
End of this month.

Do you need an Operating System?
No.

Do you plan to overclock? Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
Possibly overclocking CPU if budget permits. Don't plan on adding second GPU.

Where are you buying your parts from?
I'm from the U.S. Mostly newegg. Trying to get good deals for this month.
Venture Capital is better off spent on lottery tickets rather than investing in E-Sports; you'll get a far better return. The difference is simple: Koreans are tryharding at the game, foreigners are tryharding in real-life.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-07 04:13:48
November 07 2011 04:10 GMT
#14184
You're looking for

Core i5-2500k
Aftermarket heatsink with 120mm fan (e.g. Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus, Xigmatek Gaia)
P67 or Z68 motherboard (not Asus __ LE or MSI C43 or some of the lowest-end choices)
Graphics card that fits into budget (maybe like HD 6850 considering your resolution)
2 x 4GB DDR3 RAM, preferably 1.5V, speed not important
hard drive, should be 7200 rpm
optical drive
power supply - any 380W+ unit from Seasonic, Antec that's not Basiq / Value Power, any from Corsair, any from Silverstone, some from others...
case (one that is wide enough to fit your heatsink)

Hard to predict prices. Look up how much stuff costs now and start hunting around Thanksgiving. edit: normally all the above costs between $650 and $700 from us.ncix.com, a little on the higher end of the range if from newegg. If you're concerned about gaming performance and plan to upgrade your monitor someday, it would make more sense to get a cheaper motherboard, i5-2400 or similar, no heatsink, forget about overclocking, and get a higher-end graphics card up to a HD 6950 1GB.
KingZeter
Profile Joined January 2011
United States19 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-07 06:50:05
November 07 2011 06:49 GMT
#14185
What is my budget?
up to about 1100 usd

What is my current resolution
Current monitor is 1920x1080

What are you using it for?
Mostly gaming, sc2 and the like, some video editing as well.

What is your upgrade cycle?
1-2 years.

When do you plan on building it?
Hoping to be able to catch most things on sale and have it built by the first of the year, hopefully sooner.

Do you need an operating system
No

Do you plan to overclock? Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI and crossfire
No, and no.

Where are you buying your parts from?
From US. Newegg mostly.
No matter what happens, you always have your own parachute.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 07 2011 07:38 GMT
#14186
Look at post above yours. That's what you're looking for.
FireSA
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia555 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-07 09:55:59
November 07 2011 09:54 GMT
#14187
What is my budget?
up to about 900 (australian $)

What is my current resolution (Screen is not critical to comp)
Current monitor is 1920x1080

What are you using it for?
Mostly gaming, uni work though pretty basic stuff, with some luck bf 3 (though not max settings)

What is your upgrade cycle?

1-2 years, closer to 2

When do you plan on building it?
Hoping to be able to catch most things on sale and have it built by the end of the year

Do you need an operating system
No

Do you plan to overclock? Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI and crossfire
No, and no.

Where are you buying your parts from?
Not sure, msy and other australian retailers, potentially newegg and amazon depending on shipping.


Current suggestions so far have been:
RAM:

G.Skill Ripjaws F3-12800CL9D-8GBRL 8GB

CPU:

i5 2500k

Hard Drive:

500gb not sure what to look for here


Motherboard:

ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3


Case: $70-100? Again not sure what to look for here

Graphics Card:

radeon hd 6950

Suggestions in this post were made by a friend + some research, but would like more help/advice. Thanks :D
Wabbit
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1028 Posts
November 07 2011 17:44 GMT
#14188
On November 07 2011 18:54 FireSA wrote:

Do you plan to overclock? Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI and crossfire
No, and no.

CPU:

i5 2500k

Motherboard:

ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3



The answer to the Overclocking question does not match your CPU+mobo selection. Even for SC2, OC'ing isn't really necessary. You can play on Ultra just fine with an i5 2400/2500/2xxx whatever. OC'ing will increase FPS but is it worth the extra $? That's up to you. On a 60Hz monitor, you'd possibly notice an increase in minimum FPS in big battles, though can you tell the difference between, say, 35 and 50 FPS for ~5-10 in-game seconds? And is that worth ~$80 for you?
The answers to most of your Tech Support questions are in the OP. That's why you're not getting a reply. It's been answered before. Read the OP.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 07 2011 17:50 GMT
#14189
Those are good choices for someone wanting to overclock and planning on a multi-GPU configuration. In your case, these are bad choices.

The core i5 2500k is meant to be overclocked since it has an unlocked multiplier. If you are not overclocking, you want a non-K suffix processor such as the core i5 2400 (usually the best value) or core i5 2500.

Z68 Extreme3 is a multi-GPU ready and overclockable motherboard. If you aren't interested in either, you'll want a H61 or H67 motherboard - the Asrock H61M U3S3 is a good option.

Any case will do, just pick one that looks nice. Good options in that price range include but not limited to the Bitfenix Shinobi, Coolermaster HAF 912, Coolermaster 690ii Advanced, Lian Li PC-K58, and Lian Li PC-K7.

HDD prices have skyrocketed due to the flooding in Thailand.

You're missing a power supply. You'll want a ~500w unit for a single card configuration. Good units include but not limited to the Antec Neo Eco, Antec Earthwatts, Antec High Current Gamer, Seasonic S12II, Corasir TXv2, and XFX Core Edition.
Clockworkkkk
Profile Joined October 2011
21 Posts
November 07 2011 19:52 GMT
#14190
here is my labtops computer specs. are these good enough to stream in hd (720p) without any problems with a good connection?

PROCESSOR*
AMD Athlon™ II Dual-Core Processor M300
OPERATING SYSTEM*
Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium (32-bit)
GRAPHICS ENGINE*
ATI® Radeon™ 4100
MEMORY*
3GB DDR2 memory
HARD DRIVE*
320GB HDD (5400rpm)
OPTICAL DRIVE*
DVD-SuperMulti (+/-R double layer) with Labelflash™ drive
DISPLAY RESOLUTION
1366x768 (HD), Supports 720p content
Wabbit
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1028 Posts
November 07 2011 20:21 GMT
#14191
On November 08 2011 04:52 Clockworkkkk wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
here is my labtops computer specs. are these good enough to stream in hd (720p) without any problems with a good connection?

PROCESSOR*
AMD Athlon™ II Dual-Core Processor M300
OPERATING SYSTEM*
Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium (32-bit)
GRAPHICS ENGINE*
ATI® Radeon™ 4100
MEMORY*
3GB DDR2 memory
HARD DRIVE*
320GB HDD (5400rpm)
OPTICAL DRIVE*
DVD-SuperMulti (+/-R double layer) with Labelflash™ drive
DISPLAY RESOLUTION
1366x768 (HD), Supports 720p content


Troll or?

Have you tried playing SC2? Bet it runs like crap. How can you expect to stream on that machine? Maybe BW.
The answers to most of your Tech Support questions are in the OP. That's why you're not getting a reply. It's been answered before. Read the OP.
Station
Profile Joined November 2011
Northern Ireland2 Posts
November 07 2011 20:26 GMT
#14192
What is my budget?
about £1000.

What is my current resolution
Current monitor is 1920x1080

What are you using it for?
Mostly gaming.

What is your upgrade cycle?
4 years

When do you plan on building it?
ASAP

Do you need an operating system
No

Do you plan to overclock? Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI and crossfire
Would like to try and do basic over clocking, no SLI or crossfire

Where are you buying your parts from?
UK, ebuyer.com


I have picked some parts so far, would be much appreciated if someone could have a look over them. My main concern is the case, would it be big enough for the heat sink and then the power supply, if it would be powerful enough or maybe to much?

I haven't picked a hard disk as of yet, they all seem very expensive, so am thinking its best to wait a few weeks till the price drops to get one, tho I would use the SSD in the mean time.

Asrock P67 PRO3 SE Socket 1155 8 Channel HD Audio ATX Motherboard 267317 £84.35
Intel Core i5 2500K 3.3GHz Socket 1155 6MB Cache Retail Boxed Processor 251596 £170.80
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus Socket 775, 1156,1155 AM2, 1366, AM3 Processor Cooler 245376 £26.76
Gigabyte GTX 560Ti OC 1GB GDDR5 Dual DVI Mini HDMI Out PCI-E Graphics Card 253958 £201.84
Corsair 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1333MHz XMS3 Memory Kit CL9 1.5V unbuffered 247674 £36.99
Corsair 500W CX V2 PSU 278634 46 in stock £44.31 £44.31
BitFenix Shinobi Black Mid Tower Case 266536 18 in stock £47.45 £47.45
LiteOn iHAS124-19 24x DVD±RW DL & RAM SATA Optical Drive - OEM Black with Nero Essentials 176026£13.98
Crucial 64GB M4 SSD - 2.5" SATA-III - Read 415MB/s Write 95MB/s - 3 Year Warranty 264770 £79.98


lyrlian
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands257 Posts
November 07 2011 20:29 GMT
#14193
Dont think HD720p is gonna be working for you. Both graphics card and CPU are very low end. Also 3GB memory is low. Running SC2 @ medium settings is going to be tough without streaming.
@lyrlian on twitter! Caster for ESET, WCS and various other events.
Station
Profile Joined November 2011
Northern Ireland2 Posts
November 07 2011 20:30 GMT
#14194
What is my budget?
about £1000.

What is my current resolution
Current monitor is 1920x1080

What are you using it for?
Mostly gaming.

What is your upgrade cycle?
4 years

When do you plan on building it?
ASAP

Do you need an operating system
No

Do you plan to overclock? Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI and crossfire
Would like to try and do basic over clocking, no SLI or crossfire

Where are you buying your parts from?
UK, ebuyer.com


I have picked some parts so far, would be much appreciated if someone could have a look over them. My main concern is the case, would it be big enough for the heat sink and then the power supply, if it would be powerful enough or maybe to much?

I haven't picked a hard disk as of yet, they all seem very expensive, so am thinking its best to wait a few weeks till the price drops to get one, tho I would use the SSD in the mean time.

Asrock P67 PRO3 SE Socket 1155 8 Channel HD Audio ATX Motherboard 267317 £84.35
Intel Core i5 2500K 3.3GHz Socket 1155 6MB Cache Retail Boxed Processor 251596 £170.80
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus Socket 775, 1156,1155 AM2, 1366, AM3 Processor Cooler 245376 £26.76
Gigabyte GTX 560Ti OC 1GB GDDR5 Dual DVI Mini HDMI Out PCI-E Graphics Card 253958 £201.84
Corsair 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1333MHz XMS3 Memory Kit CL9 1.5V unbuffered 247674 £36.99
Corsair 500W CX V2 PSU 278634 £44.31
BitFenix Shinobi Black Mid Tower Case 266536 £47.45
LiteOn iHAS124-19 24x DVD±RW DL & RAM SATA Optical Drive 176026 £13.98
Crucial 64GB M4 SSD - 2.5" SATA-III - Read 415MB/s Write 95MB/s - 3 Year Warranty 264770 £79.98

Many thanks


Clockworkkkk
Profile Joined October 2011
21 Posts
November 07 2011 23:23 GMT
#14195
On November 08 2011 05:21 Wabbit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2011 04:52 Clockworkkkk wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
here is my labtops computer specs. are these good enough to stream in hd (720p) without any problems with a good connection?

PROCESSOR*
AMD Athlon™ II Dual-Core Processor M300
OPERATING SYSTEM*
Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium (32-bit)
GRAPHICS ENGINE*
ATI® Radeon™ 4100
MEMORY*
3GB DDR2 memory
HARD DRIVE*
320GB HDD (5400rpm)
OPTICAL DRIVE*
DVD-SuperMulti (+/-R double layer) with Labelflash™ drive
DISPLAY RESOLUTION
1366x768 (HD), Supports 720p content


Troll or?

Have you tried playing SC2? Bet it runs like crap. How can you expect to stream on that machine? Maybe BW.


no its not a troll and im not streaming starcraft im streaming console shooters sorry i forgot to add that.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-07 23:50:40
November 07 2011 23:50 GMT
#14196
On November 08 2011 08:23 Clockworkkkk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2011 05:21 Wabbit wrote:
On November 08 2011 04:52 Clockworkkkk wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
here is my labtops computer specs. are these good enough to stream in hd (720p) without any problems with a good connection?

PROCESSOR*
AMD Athlon™ II Dual-Core Processor M300
OPERATING SYSTEM*
Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium (32-bit)
GRAPHICS ENGINE*
ATI® Radeon™ 4100
MEMORY*
3GB DDR2 memory
HARD DRIVE*
320GB HDD (5400rpm)
OPTICAL DRIVE*
DVD-SuperMulti (+/-R double layer) with Labelflash™ drive
DISPLAY RESOLUTION
1366x768 (HD), Supports 720p content


Troll or?

Have you tried playing SC2? Bet it runs like crap. How can you expect to stream on that machine? Maybe BW.


no its not a troll and im not streaming starcraft im streaming console shooters sorry i forgot to add that.

hope those console shooters are made before 2004 as you wont be playing much more recent(unless you dont play them on the comp but still you cant stream hd)
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
TexDrum
Profile Joined September 2011
United States67 Posts
November 08 2011 00:18 GMT
#14197
Is this 6850 worse than a normal 6850, or is this just a crazy deal? It's a huge price discount... I want to make sure I'm not getting cheated on something.

http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=AT-6850_1G&c=CJ
FireSA
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia555 Posts
November 08 2011 00:21 GMT
#14198
On November 08 2011 02:44 Wabbit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2011 18:54 FireSA wrote:

Do you plan to overclock? Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI and crossfire
No, and no.

CPU:

i5 2500k

Motherboard:

ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3



The answer to the Overclocking question does not match your CPU+mobo selection. Even for SC2, OC'ing isn't really necessary. You can play on Ultra just fine with an i5 2400/2500/2xxx whatever. OC'ing will increase FPS but is it worth the extra $? That's up to you. On a 60Hz monitor, you'd possibly notice an increase in minimum FPS in big battles, though can you tell the difference between, say, 35 and 50 FPS for ~5-10 in-game seconds? And is that worth ~$80 for you?


Heya, plan is to be upgrading my comp, and possibly play battlefield 3, which is sort of the benchmark here. Not on max settings, but likely high. Assuming I wanted to do so, is what I put up a yay or nay? And if not, what alternatives for the motherboard as plenty of alternatives have already been suggested for the cpu? Thanks.
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
November 08 2011 00:25 GMT
#14199
Crazy deal on the 6850, unless the website isn't a trusted one.

Sapphire is a good brand, usually make "budget" GPU's
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
TexDrum
Profile Joined September 2011
United States67 Posts
November 08 2011 00:53 GMT
#14200
Will a 520W Antec power supply be able to run that 6850 with an i5 2400?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371030
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