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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 08 2011 01:14 GMT
#14201
On November 08 2011 09:18 TexDrum wrote:
Is this 6850 worse than a normal 6850, or is this just a crazy deal? It's a huge price discount... I want to make sure I'm not getting cheated on something.

http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=AT-6850_1G&c=CJ


$132 after rebate is not a good deal. This is the normal price of a 6850.

On November 08 2011 09:53 TexDrum wrote:
Will a 520W Antec power supply be able to run that 6850 with an i5 2400?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371030


More than enough.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-08 01:32:43
November 08 2011 01:31 GMT
#14202
On November 08 2011 09:53 TexDrum wrote:
Will a 520W Antec power supply be able to run that 6850 with an i5 2400?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371030


Yeah, I'm using that PSU for an i5 2400 and 6870 build.

The 6850 is usually around $130 after rebate, and the 6870 is usually around $150 after rebate. I've seen the 6870 fall as low as $140 after rebate as well.

I was busy lately and completely forgot every fucking rebate with my latest build for my brother, lost about $100 worth .
mormonaculous
Profile Joined January 2011
United States33 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-08 01:43:43
November 08 2011 01:40 GMT
#14203
Aight, so my build just arrived in the mail from Newegg. However, I think there's a problem-- I was checking how the motherboard would fit with the case, and the I/O panels don't match up. I re-checked the parts online, and it appears that while my case is ATX compatible, my current motherboard is an ATX-micro. Is this an issue I can fix easily, or do I need to replace my mobo? Luckily I haven't put my processor into the motherboard yet, so I should be able to return it. Here are the parts to which I am referring:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129066
Antec 300 Illusion Mid Tower (I originally had an Antec 100, but I got the 300 for like $5 more with a promotion).

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138332
BIOSTAR LGA 1155 intel micro ATX board.

Thanks!!

edit: The mobo came with an its own I/O panel, but I can't see an obvious way to get the current I/O panel off of the case. I've read that I can just pop off the panel, should I go for it?
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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 08 2011 01:42 GMT
#14204
mATX fits into ATX so you are most likely installing the motherboard incorrectly.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-08 01:54:21
November 08 2011 01:53 GMT
#14205
On November 08 2011 10:40 mormonaculous wrote:
Aight, so my build just arrived in the mail from Newegg. However, I think there's a problem-- I was checking how the motherboard would fit with the case, and the I/O panels don't match up. I re-checked the parts online, and it appears that while my case is ATX compatible, my current motherboard is an ATX-micro. Is this an issue I can fix easily, or do I need to replace my mobo? Luckily I haven't put my processor into the motherboard yet, so I should be able to return it. Here are the parts to which I am referring:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129066
Antec 300 Illusion Mid Tower (I originally had an Antec 100, but I got the 300 for like $5 more with a promotion).

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138332
BIOSTAR LGA 1155 intel micro ATX board.

Thanks!!

edit: The mobo came with an its own I/O panel, but I can't see an obvious way to get the current I/O panel off of the case. I've read that I can just pop off the panel, should I go for it?


Yes.

Also, as SkyR said, the mobo should work fine. I also purchased an Antec Illusion 300 with an H61 microATX mobo.
ChoiBoi
Profile Joined January 2011
United States130 Posts
November 08 2011 01:57 GMT
#14206
Oh, btw, I never remembered to thank this thread and it's wonderful contributors in helping me build my PC. It was quite easy, and there weren't any hassles. Thanks dudes!
TexDrum
Profile Joined September 2011
United States67 Posts
November 08 2011 02:17 GMT
#14207
On November 08 2011 10:14 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2011 09:18 TexDrum wrote:
Is this 6850 worse than a normal 6850, or is this just a crazy deal? It's a huge price discount... I want to make sure I'm not getting cheated on something.

http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=AT-6850_1G&c=CJ


$132 after rebate is not a good deal. This is the normal price of a 6850.

Show nested quote +
On November 08 2011 09:53 TexDrum wrote:
Will a 520W Antec power supply be able to run that 6850 with an i5 2400?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371030


More than enough.


Oh, gotcha thanks
Legatus Lanius
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2135 Posts
November 08 2011 02:34 GMT
#14208
the neo eco 520w is enough for two 6850s lol
"He's the Triple H of Brood War." - Ribbon on Flash | "He's more like the John Cena of Brood War." - Aus)MaCrO on Flash
excaliburPT
Profile Joined May 2011
Portugal17 Posts
November 08 2011 02:40 GMT
#14209
Hi!

I was wondering if someone could review this build:

+ Show Spoiler +
MSI H61M - http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=50577&agid=1603
HD6850 1GB - http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=39511&agid=1004
i5-2400 - http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=41226&agid=1617
Super-Flower Amazon 450W - http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=30074&agid=1627
8GB-Kit G.Skill RipJaws - http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=44319&agid=1192
500GB Samsung Spinpoint F3 - http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=28151&agid=689
BitFenix Merc Beta - http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=50576&agid=631


I was looking for something in the 500€ price range, mostly for SC2 / D3.
Any input would be great, I really don't know much about this stuff.
Also I will need a monitor to go with all this, so any suggestions are welcome.

Thanks in advance. This thread has been really helpful so far.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
November 08 2011 02:44 GMT
#14210
Looks about right.

That Powercolor graphics card is out of stock. Sapphire has a model that's maybe slightly better and costs about the same and is in stock:
http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=39504&agid=1004

Cheaper RAM (no pointless heatspreaders):
http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=44315&agid=1192

Case was a few days out of stock; Outlaw is just a few more euros:
http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=50887&agid=631

I would search far and wide to see if you can find a 500GB 7200rpm hard drive or similar, for less than 100 euros (it not, then fine)...maybe you can even find an external drive at a more general retailer, that's priced normally, and take the drive out of the enclosure to put in the computer.
excaliburPT
Profile Joined May 2011
Portugal17 Posts
November 08 2011 02:54 GMT
#14211
Thank you

Yes, the hard drive is there as a reference, I will try to get it cheaper somehow.

Can you suggest a monitor that would work well for this build?
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
November 08 2011 02:58 GMT
#14212
On November 08 2011 11:54 excaliburPT wrote:
Thank you

Yes, the hard drive is there as a reference, I will try to get it cheaper somehow.

Can you suggest a monitor that would work well for this build?


Preferably any with DVI, HDMI, or DisplayPort is okay, though you could use an adapter to VGA if necessary. Just get one with the price, look, features, etc. that look okay to you. It's better to see in person (though store lighting is often too bright to get a good idea), but most cheaper monitors look mostly the same anyway.

There are no compatibility issues to worry about, and cheaper monitors use TN panels that have acceptable response time, and they also have little processing so acceptable input lag for gaming.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
November 08 2011 04:14 GMT
#14213
On November 08 2011 11:40 excaliburPT wrote:
Hi!

I was wondering if someone could review this build:

+ Show Spoiler +
MSI H61M - http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=50577&agid=1603
HD6850 1GB - http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=39511&agid=1004
i5-2400 - http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=41226&agid=1617
Super-Flower Amazon 450W - http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=30074&agid=1627
8GB-Kit G.Skill RipJaws - http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=44319&agid=1192
500GB Samsung Spinpoint F3 - http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=28151&agid=689
BitFenix Merc Beta - http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=50576&agid=631


I was looking for something in the 500€ price range, mostly for SC2 / D3.
Any input would be great, I really don't know much about this stuff.
Also I will need a monitor to go with all this, so any suggestions are welcome.

Thanks in advance. This thread has been really helpful so far.


Usually is convenient to have an optical drive, only usually around $20 or 20 Euros. Not necessary, but still quite useful^^.
gForce.
Profile Joined January 2010
United Kingdom345 Posts
November 08 2011 05:56 GMT
#14214
Would this PC be sufficient to play SC2 and any newer games? If so, what can I expect off this specs, and above all else, is this PC worth this money?

Link in spoiler...

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CM-PC-I5-2500-2TB-4GB-DDR3-GTX550-1GB-GAMING-COMPUTER-/390326020762?pt=UK_Computing_DesktopPCs&hash=item5ae13e6a9a#ht_3483wt_1273
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 08 2011 06:16 GMT
#14215
It'll be able to play Starcraft II on ultra at 1080p but for newer games such as Battlefield 3, you'll be limited to ~high settings. It seems reasonably priced.
excaliburPT
Profile Joined May 2011
Portugal17 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-08 10:27:40
November 08 2011 10:25 GMT
#14216
On November 08 2011 11:58 Myrmidon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2011 11:54 excaliburPT wrote:
Thank you

Yes, the hard drive is there as a reference, I will try to get it cheaper somehow.

Can you suggest a monitor that would work well for this build?


Preferably any with DVI, HDMI, or DisplayPort is okay, though you could use an adapter to VGA if necessary. Just get one with the price, look, features, etc. that look okay to you. It's better to see in person (though store lighting is often too bright to get a good idea), but most cheaper monitors look mostly the same anyway.

There are no compatibility issues to worry about, and cheaper monitors use TN panels that have acceptable response time, and they also have little processing so acceptable input lag for gaming.


Once again, thanks for your help :D
excaliburPT
Profile Joined May 2011
Portugal17 Posts
November 08 2011 10:33 GMT
#14217
On November 08 2011 13:14 FabledIntegral wrote:

Usually is convenient to have an optical drive, only usually around $20 or 20 Euros. Not necessary, but still quite useful^^.


Yes, I will get an optical drive too. I didn't include it because it was not relevant for the build.
Thank you anyway. Any help is welcome
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-08 10:46:46
November 08 2011 10:37 GMT
#14218
On November 08 2011 11:40 excaliburPT wrote:
Hi!

I was wondering if someone could review this build:

+ Show Spoiler +
MSI H61M - http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=50577&agid=1603
HD6850 1GB - http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=39511&agid=1004
i5-2400 - http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=41226&agid=1617
Super-Flower Amazon 450W - http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=30074&agid=1627
8GB-Kit G.Skill RipJaws - http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=44319&agid=1192
500GB Samsung Spinpoint F3 - http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=28151&agid=689
BitFenix Merc Beta - http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=50576&agid=631


I was looking for something in the 500€ price range, mostly for SC2 / D3.
Any input would be great, I really don't know much about this stuff.
Also I will need a monitor to go with all this, so any suggestions are welcome.

Thanks in advance. This thread has been really helpful so far.

It's good. Don't get the outlaw that was previously mentioned, it's significantly worse. I also wouldn't get a HDD at the moment as they're all overpriced, at least not from that store.

This is the cheapest 8gb of RAM:
http://www4.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=38042&agid=1192 x2

I'd change your graphics card to this 6870 if it fits the budget / if you need the upgrade:
http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=46795&agid=1004

The power supply is good although CX430 is cheaper if it's enough for you:
http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=48790&agid=1627

On November 08 2011 14:56 gForce. wrote:
Would this PC be sufficient to play SC2 and any newer games? If so, what can I expect off this specs, and above all else, is this PC worth this money?

Link in spoiler...

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CM-PC-I5-2500-2TB-4GB-DDR3-GTX550-1GB-GAMING-COMPUTER-/390326020762?pt=UK_Computing_DesktopPCs&hash=item5ae13e6a9a#ht_3483wt_1273

Poor graphics card: CPU ratio and it seems overpriced.

I'd have recommended the old Aria.co.uk build that had i3 540 overclocked to 4.5Ghz and a GTX 560 for 550£ but it seems they've removed it from their selection. Shame.

If you want the best you can for around that money, I'd take this prebuilt:
http://www.aria.co.uk/Systems/Gaming Range/Gladiator/Gladiator IBIS Deluxe Intel Core i3-2100 @ 3.10GHz DDR3 Gaming PC w/ FREE Steam Voucher DiRT 3! ?productId=46328

And change the processor to i5 2400(+~57£) and change the graphics card to GTX 560 Ti(+~84£) and change the case to BitFenix Merc Alpha(-~5£)

That way you get a machine with i5 2400 and GTX 560 Ti for a total of about 536£. Pretty hard to beat.
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Wabbit
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1028 Posts
November 08 2011 16:07 GMT
#14219
On November 08 2011 09:21 FireSA wrote:

Heya, plan is to be upgrading my comp, and possibly play battlefield 3, which is sort of the benchmark here. Not on max settings, but likely high. Assuming I wanted to do so, is what I put up a yay or nay? And if not, what alternatives for the motherboard as plenty of alternatives have already been suggested for the cpu? Thanks.


Well, if you're not OC'ing and going for a regular i5, any H61/H67 mobo with the features you need will do just fine. Motherboards have the most negligible impact on performance (they are the least of your concern there).
The answers to most of your Tech Support questions are in the OP. That's why you're not getting a reply. It's been answered before. Read the OP.
sdR
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany11 Posts
November 08 2011 16:57 GMT
#14220
hope this fits in this post! but what do you guys think about that comp:

CPU (Prozessor):
Intel Core i5-2500, 4x 3.30GHz
Mainboard:
ASUS P8P67 B3, Intel P67
Graphics:
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti 1024MB
RAM:
8GB Kingston ValueRAM DDR3-1333 CL9
HDD:
1TB - , 32MB Cache, SATA2, 7200 rpm
drive:
LG GH24NS70 24x DVD
Netzteil (Power?):
530W - BeQuiet! Pure Power L7
Case:
Coolermaster - Sileo,
CPU-Cooler:
Coolermaster HyperTX3
Silent-Cooler:
2x Noiseblocker BlackSilent Lüfter

costs like 900€
i know that one will run sc2, but what about games like mw3 or skyrim (on "good" settings)?
should i change some parts or am i missing something?

hope you guys can help me out!

thx in advance!
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