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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
November 06 2011 10:23 GMT
#14161
I'm looking at the gtx 560 ti on newegg and there are a lot of different models, which one is recommended?
Legatus Lanius
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2135 Posts
November 06 2011 10:59 GMT
#14162
the cheapest one
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Westerhound
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland69 Posts
November 06 2011 11:52 GMT
#14163
On November 06 2011 19:23 zoLo wrote:
I'm looking at the gtx 560 ti on newegg and there are a lot of different models, which one is recommended?


The only difference is the warranty and the cooler they stick to the card. Most people go with the EVGA (lifetime warranty), Asus or MSi Twin Frozr ones.
kleetzor
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany360 Posts
November 06 2011 12:53 GMT
#14164
I've looked at some parts already, as I've always relied on research I do myself to build my computers, but thought I'd put it out here as well, no harm could be done.

Budget: ~ 300 euros
Resolution: 1920*1080 (I pretty much NEVER max settings on anything)
Using it for: SC2, BF3, SW:TOR, ME3. (no streaming or anything fancy)
Upgrade cycle: ~ 2 years, plan on getting early next year, around January
No overclocking planned.

So guys, I'm actually looking for Mobo/CPU/RAM only. I already have an MSI GTX 560 Ti HAWK and a Silverstone 500W PS. Open to anything for the budget on CPU and Mobo. For RAM, I think this is a good deal:

http://www.notebooksbilliger.de/zubehoer/arbeitsspeicher zubehoer/desktop ddr3/ddr3 1600/8gb corsair xms3 kit 8gb pc3 12800u ddr3 1600


These are the webpages I have used so far for looking at the parts: http://www.notebooksbilliger.de/ and www.hardwareversand.de (even if you don't speak German, I don't think it should be a problem looking up parts)

Still, please feel free to suggest any parts from any other websites (even american, dollar based ones).

I've almost always used AMD processors thus far, and never had a problem and since they are cheaper, but as they seem to be getting owned by Intel lately, I'm open to suggestions.

Thanks in advance!
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-06 14:03:26
November 06 2011 13:58 GMT
#14165
i5 2400 + this 8GB of memory kit + H61/H67 motherboard of choice.

H67 offers 4 memory slots and native SATA3 (native implementations are important because third party controllers can be extremely flaky especially on cheap motherboards). 4 memory slots isn't really that important, since 8GB will be enough for a very long time, but SATA3 can be very useful if you plan to get a modern SSD very soon.

H61 is cut down and only offers native SATA2 and 2 memory slots. If you don't need the SATA3, this is probably your best option.

Pick whatever you need (as in has the right number of ports for your hardware), they won't really differ in quality. If an Asus and Gigabyte board you are looking at are similar in price, I'd personally pick the Asus option simply because Gigabyte STILL doesn't use uEFI.
Irby
Profile Joined May 2011
United States55 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-06 14:55:24
November 06 2011 14:55 GMT
#14166
Just wanted to say thanks for the help I got in building my computer on this thread a few weeks ago. The parts have since arrived and the PC has been built, and I am extremely happy with the results. Thank you!
Live every day to make the world a better place :)
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 06 2011 16:09 GMT
#14167
On November 06 2011 22:58 Womwomwom wrote:
i5 2400 + this 8GB of memory kit + H61/H67 motherboard of choice.

H67 offers 4 memory slots and native SATA3 (native implementations are important because third party controllers can be extremely flaky especially on cheap motherboards). 4 memory slots isn't really that important, since 8GB will be enough for a very long time, but SATA3 can be very useful if you plan to get a modern SSD very soon.

H61 is cut down and only offers native SATA2 and 2 memory slots. If you don't need the SATA3, this is probably your best option.

Pick whatever you need (as in has the right number of ports for your hardware), they won't really differ in quality. If an Asus and Gigabyte board you are looking at are similar in price, I'd personally pick the Asus option simply because Gigabyte STILL doesn't use uEFI.

o.O Why would you recommend that ramkit?

http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/info/p701016_8GB-G-Skill-NT-Series-DDR3-1333-DIMM-CL9-Dual-Kit.html

This far cheaper.

Also, you're wrong about H67 having those and H61 not - some H61 models have 4 ram slots, usb3, and sata3.

CPU is:
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/info/p688675_Intel-Core-i5-2400-4x-3-10GHz-So-1155-BOX.html
or
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/info/p688676_Intel-Core-i5-2500-4x-3-30GHz-So-1155-BOX.html

Depending on how you value 200mhz.

mobo would be http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/info/p730972_ASRock-H61M-VS-S1155-Intel-H61-2XDDR3-6xUSB2-0-M-ATX-retail.html if you don't need USB3 and SATA3 etc.

If you do, something like this:
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/info/p733215_ASRock-H61iCAFE-H61-GVSA.html
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Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-06 16:26:10
November 06 2011 16:23 GMT
#14168
He's saying that SATA3 is through a third-party controller (and will have worse performance than those handled by the Intel chipset) on H61.

The H61 models that have four RAM slots are a bit rare, and they have the restriction that you can't have ICs on both sides of the modules: just single-sided RAM if using all four slots, and they will downclock to 1066 MHz. At least that's how it works on the couple of AsRock H61 models. Again, not a big deal if you're getting like 2 x 4GB, since most people won't need more than 8GB anytime soon.

edit: so the point is to be able to upgrade 2 x 2GB to 4 x 2GB, which admittedly is the only potentially useful RAM upgrade path for most users
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 06 2011 16:33 GMT
#14169
On November 07 2011 01:23 Myrmidon wrote:
He's saying that SATA3 is through a third-party controller (and will have worse performance than those handled by the Intel chipset) on H61.

The H61 models that have four RAM slots are a bit rare, and they have the restriction that you can't have ICs on both sides of the modules: just single-sided RAM if using all four slots, and they will downclock to 1066 MHz. At least that's how it works on the couple of AsRock H61 models. Again, not a big deal if you're getting like 2 x 4GB, since most people won't need more than 8GB anytime soon.

edit: so the point is to be able to upgrade 2 x 2GB to 4 x 2GB, which admittedly is the only potentially useful RAM upgrade path for most users

Oi that's a pretty good point. But either way, Mindfactory imo is the site to go for if you live in Germany! (And even if you live elsewhere in europe and know german imo)
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Madoga
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands471 Posts
November 06 2011 16:53 GMT
#14170
On November 07 2011 01:33 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2011 01:23 Myrmidon wrote:
He's saying that SATA3 is through a third-party controller (and will have worse performance than those handled by the Intel chipset) on H61.

The H61 models that have four RAM slots are a bit rare, and they have the restriction that you can't have ICs on both sides of the modules: just single-sided RAM if using all four slots, and they will downclock to 1066 MHz. At least that's how it works on the couple of AsRock H61 models. Again, not a big deal if you're getting like 2 x 4GB, since most people won't need more than 8GB anytime soon.

edit: so the point is to be able to upgrade 2 x 2GB to 4 x 2GB, which admittedly is the only potentially useful RAM upgrade path for most users

Oi that's a pretty good point. But either way, Mindfactory imo is the site to go for if you live in Germany! (And even if you live elsewhere in europe and know german imo)


Just check geizhals.eu, mindfactory has really high shipping costs. Anobo is probably the cheapest german site for people outside germany, but you shouldn't get stuck on one shop.

Ps.
Happy birthday Myrmidon!
kleetzor
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany360 Posts
November 06 2011 17:30 GMT
#14171
Thx a lot everyone for the feedback. I have a question tho, would a P67 (even an LE) Mobo be worth the price increase over an H67? (10-15 euros more) Performance and Stabilitywise.

I guess I would go for the i5 2500, it would only be around 10 euros more.

And I guess if I find a good deal with native SATA3, I'd go for it. My next step after the CPU/Mobo would be a SSD.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 06 2011 17:55 GMT
#14172
All H67 and P67 boards have native SATA3. If you want that 400MHz overclock than I guess it would be worth it...
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 06 2011 20:23 GMT
#14173
Well if you go for i5 2500 and a p67, why not just go 2500k? xD
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-06 20:49:09
November 06 2011 20:48 GMT
#14174
So I'm going to be building my first desktop soon and I've decided to get the gtx 560 TI.
What are the pros/cons of each one? (I saw the person ask above but would like a little more info)
Do the dual fan ones usually run quieter as well as cooler?
I'm stuck between MSI, EVGA, and GIGABYTE and don't know how to choose =/.
The EVGA one is more expensive (after MIR) and the MSI has slightly lower clock speed. Do all EVGA have lifetime warranties?
kleetzor
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany360 Posts
November 06 2011 20:54 GMT
#14175
On November 07 2011 05:23 Shikyo wrote:
Well if you go for i5 2500 and a p67, why not just go 2500k? xD


yeah well, afaik 2500k is the same 2500 but with easier overclocking which would implicate also investing in a better cooler/fan for the CPU. Unless I'm mistaken.
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-06 21:22:42
November 06 2011 21:03 GMT
#14176
On November 07 2011 01:09 Shikyo wrote:
Stuff



I used that memory kit I don't know German or where you Europeans buy your stuff. He threw me some websites and I picked a decently priced kit. It just like how you guys are stupid when you buy shit from Australia...because you don't live here. Looks like a good website so I'll remember it next time!

Third party USB3.0 and SATA3 are god awful. Third party controllers have always been bad, especially the stuff you get on $50 motherboards because there isn't really any room for Asrock to spend money for better controllers. The amount of people bitching about USB3.0 drivers and performance on those cheapass H61 boards is quite high and I imagine SATA3 is just as bad. I/O controllers certainly weren't any good on last generation motherboards...they didn't even work properly on the Gigabyte X58A-UD3R due to BIOS issues.

Hence if you want SATA3, you go H67 because its native.

On November 07 2011 05:48 beefhamburger wrote:
So I'm going to be building my first desktop soon and I've decided to get the gtx 560 TI.
What are the pros/cons of each one? (I saw the person ask above but would like a little more info)
Do the dual fan ones usually run quieter as well as cooler?
I'm stuck between MSI, EVGA, and GIGABYTE and don't know how to choose =/.
The EVGA one is more expensive (after MIR) and the MSI has slightly lower clock speed. Do all EVGA have lifetime warranties?


The EVGA card doesn't have lifetime warranty - its 3 years. EVGA does heavy product segmentation now and offers different warranty periods for different cards: your card has a K suffix so you get three years of warranty. That being said, I am certain EVGA warranty is still miles better than Gigabyte (lollllll) or MSI (do they still do dodgy serial based warranty that starts from the manufactured date?).

Talking about the cards themselves, they all should perform the same and sound very similar. Some of those cards have higher/lower clock speeds but you should be able to make up that clock speed deficit with MSI Afterburner if you really, really want to.

Dual fan ones perform quite well in thermal and acoustics. Just make sure you have an active front intake and an active rear exhaust since its going to be spitting hot air inside the case. If you let it recycle its own air, its going to get hot very quickly.
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
November 06 2011 21:04 GMT
#14177
It you are getting a p67 board and you are going for a i5 2500 you might as well get an unlocked one (k version) in any case. They are pretty much identical but the k variant being unlocked so you can increase the multiplier to whatever you like and the price differential isn't that much between them. You can always add a heatsink later if you want to oc to any higher frequencies.

But as for the question if your previous post, if you have no interest in over-clocking and don't get a k version cpu there is not much benefit in getting a p67 mobo over a h67.
excaliburPT
Profile Joined May 2011
Portugal17 Posts
November 06 2011 22:59 GMT
#14178
Hey guys!

I'm looking to build a cheap computer.
Here's all the relevant info:

What is your budget?

500€ (not including a monitor, which I also need.)

What is your resolution?

Depends on the monitor.

What are you using it for?

Games I wanna play with nice graphics are Starcraft 2 and Diablo 3.
Other than that, just Photoshop and browsing, mainly.

What is your upgrade cycle?

2+ years.

When do you plan on building it?

Pretty much ASAP.

Do you plan on overclocking?

No.

Do you need an Operating System?

No.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

No.

Where are you buying your parts from?

http://www.hardwareversand.de seems good for us europeans


Thanks. You are all so handsome.
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-06 23:08:20
November 06 2011 23:06 GMT
#14179
For EVGA cards, what's the difference between -AR and -KR? As well as DS?
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
November 06 2011 23:26 GMT
#14180
A series cards have lifetime warranty. K series have three years. B/D series has one.
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