EPTI'm not a fan of cheap speaker sets, as they tend to sound worse than comparably-priced headphones. So I don't know about that, sorry.
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
I'm not a fan of cheap speaker sets, as they tend to sound worse than comparably-priced headphones. So I don't know about that, sorry. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
With the current 300W PSU I have a problem is that its fan goes really loud when I play games because it's running near max load, another reason why you probably shouldn't go with the bare minimum but it depends on the PSU. | ||
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nalgene
Canada2153 Posts
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Alryk
United States2718 Posts
Radeon 6950 - 250$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150524 MSI P67A - 100$ http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=59095&vpn=P67A-G43 (B3)&manufacture=MSI/MicroStar&promoid=1316 Coolermaster 430 (same as above) - 40$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119227 8 GB Mushkin - 32$ http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=55544&vpn=996770&manufacture=Mushkin Enhanced&promoid=1316 i5 2500k -179.99$ http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0354589 XFX 450W - http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=63238&promoid=1287 This is enough for single GPU w/ overclocked i5? I'm not sure how much extra power an overclocked processor draws. Seagate 500 GB 16 MB cache 7200 RPM - 70$ http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=63468&vpn=ST500DM002&manufacture=Seagate Optical Drive - 17.99$ http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=49597&vpn=DRW-24B1ST Bulk&manufacture=ASUS&promoid=1316 Heatsink - 23$ http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=41337&promoid=1287 Here is the (hopefully) final build! | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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esotericc
449 Posts
so something like this http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102908 | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
$160 with a mail in rebate that negates shipping isn't good for a 6850. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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esotericc
449 Posts
On November 04 2011 08:07 Shikyo wrote: 6870 imo is as good value as 6850 So better off getting a 6870? Which of the two (ati/nvidia) is the way to go right now, I historically prefer nvidia but for no real reason. also is http://www.newegg.ca/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.752658 A decent combo? Trying to build a budget computer and the only stipulations are a i5 2500 and a decent video card. | ||
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Rachnar
France1526 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814134137 At stock it's as good as 6870 but it overclocks so well it'll become as fast as GTX 560 Ti and that's a 230$ card. | ||
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esotericc
449 Posts
6870 absolute best bang per buck card available right now with 6870 right after it You said 6870 twice  IMO best bang-for-buck card from newegg is this: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814134137 At stock it's as good as 6870 but it overclocks so well it'll become as fast as GTX 560 Ti and that's a 230$ card. That was the card I was originally going to buy, I would not overclock though so :S | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On November 04 2011 08:29 esotericc wrote: You said 6870 twice That was the card I was originally going to buy, I would not overclock though so :S well with that price and rebate it's probably still the best bet and you might change your mind and overclock anyway(it's the easiest thing ever) | ||
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Alryk
United States2718 Posts
On November 04 2011 07:38 skyR wrote: An overclocked 2500k is going to draw about 90w. The XFX Core Edition 450 provides the same amount of power on the 12v rail as your previous choice, the CX500 V2. It's impossible to say which bottlenecks which as this depends on the task at hand but for the majority of games, you'll always reach a GPU bottleneck first. Alright thanks. Then it would be best to get the highest GPU I can afford? (6950 which is what I have, or potentially a 6970) | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On November 04 2011 08:49 Alryk wrote: Alright thanks. Then it would be best to get the highest GPU I can afford? (6950 which is what I have, or potentially a 6970) Usually not, especially not if you can afford more than a HD 6950. They always run huge profits on the high-end chips. From the consumer's side, you can see that the price/performance after a certain point starts dropping off. Around HD 6850 or HD 6870 today is roughly best price/performance, and beyond HD 6950 1GB you're starting to get gouged. You can't pay more today and buy more advanced technology: smaller manufacturing process, better architecture, and so on. You just get more of the same stuff in parallel. No matter which you get, there's always a new generation of products around the corner (and the corner here is just a few months away), which will have higher performance, lower power consumption, more features, etc. Don't buy flagship products which will become outdated pretty much just as fast, unless you need flagship performance right now. And if you're playing on resolutions like 1920x1200 or lower, you definitely don't need flagship performance right now. | ||
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Alryk
United States2718 Posts
Radeon 6950 - 250$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150524 MSI P67A - 100$ http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=59095&vpn=P67A-G43 (B3)&manufacture=MSI/MicroStar&promoid=1316 Coolermaster 430 (same as above) - 40$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119227 8 GB Mushkin - 32$ http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=55544&vpn=996770&manufacture=Mushkin Enhanced&promoid=1316 i5 2500k -179.99$ http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0354589 XFX 450W - http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=63238&promoid=1287 This is enough for single GPU w/ overclocked i5? I'm not sure how much extra power an overclocked processor draws. Seagate 500 GB 16 MB cache 7200 RPM - 70$ http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=63468&vpn=ST500DM002&manufacture=Seagate Optical Drive - 17.99$ http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=49597&vpn=DRW-24B1ST Bulk&manufacture=ASUS&promoid=1316 And I still have a few hundred dollars left over  | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
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Xingke
United States78 Posts
So this machine will be used primarily for gaming, and since newegg sales are starting I would like to start picking up any deals I see that might be on my buy list. Sadly I'm probably going to miss the PSU one thats out right now because I don't have money in the bank  Anyway, games I will be playing currently are: SC2 WoW D3 when it comes out Several steam source-engine games Civilization V Black Ops I play on 1600x900, no current plan to get a new monitor of higher resolution within the year. I currently don't have plans to buy BF3 or similar new titles, but I would like the option to play them on reasonably high settings. Having them Maxed on Ultra isn't a must. However I would like to be able to max pretty much everything I currently play, and like I said be able to play new titles on decently high settings. BUDGET: ~$800, not including an OS. I have a little room to work with but $900 is an absolute maximum. Would like to keep it closer to $800-850. Here is current setup, with a few choices recommended by people from MMO-champion. I will post thoughts/preferences below the list CPU: i5 2500K GPU: MSI 560 Ti Twin Frozr II RAM: 8GB 1600 GSkill or Corsair FAN: Hyper 212 HDD: I have a 500GB SATA 7200RPM Seagate Barracuda that I can reuse, since I am not willing to buy HDD's after the massive price spike. CASE: HAF 922. I would LOVE to be able to afford a Corsair 600T, but it doesn't look like I will be able to unless I catch massive deals over the holidays. PSU: Corsair TX650 V2 MB: ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 Will find a ~$20 optical drive. Case Preferences: Dust filters are a huge plus, so are ones with top 200m exhaust fans, and side panels for more fan mounts if needed(I don't know what I might want to upgrade to in the future so I would love room for more cooling). Corsair 600T is my ideal one currently, but I do not have the budget to allow it yet unless I get massive deals on other things. I was told the HAF 922 is a good alternative that will hold all the parts + heatsink I have listed. MBoard Preferences: Still relatively ignorant here. The one I have listed was recommended to me on another forum. I would like a z68 to have the option of onboard video incase anything happens to my GPU. As long as it has PCI slots for possible SLI in the future, and a soundcard I don't really care as long as the quality is good. PSU Preferences: I would like one strong enough to support 2x 560s in SLI, or support single more powerful GPUs like the 580, or next gen GPU's when they come out. I have no plan to get them yet, but I would rather not have to replace my PSU down the road when and if I need a GPU upgrade. Also was told Antec EarthWatts EA-650 was a good cheaper alternative. Can anyone give me a comparison on that vs the Corsair TX650 I have listed? Or are there others that would be a better option? Also will I need low profile ram with that heatsink? I've read reviews on multiple motherboards saying their ram wont fit with large heatsinks. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
AsRock Z68 Pro3 is a bit cheaper and will suffice unless you really wanted some of the extras the Extreme3 has. e.g. multiple 16x PCI Express lanes to support SLI. Z68 Extreme3 is a good value for SLI, though some of the MSI G series may be slightly cheaper. Earthwatts Green 650W is better than the older EA-650, and is often a great value. Compared to the TX650 V2, the Earthwatts Green is a little quieter, has a little cheaper construction and cheaper components, and has a little worse electrical performance (but still very solid, nothing to be ashamed of). Efficiency on both is similar. Next-gen GPUs will use less power, not more. Both Earthwatts Green 650W and TX650 V2 come with two PCI Express power connectors for video cards. A GTX 560 Ti takes two, so if you're running two of those, you'll need to use adapters with both power supplies (which is okay). Note that the XFX Core (Pro) 650W is internally identical to the TX650 V2 since they're manufactured by the same OEM based on the same design, using the same parts. The XFX version just is usually cheaper, has a quieter fan, and comes with four PCI Express power connectors. So there's no reason usually to get the Corsair version unless you're paranoid and really value Corsair's superior customer support. Yeah you in general don't want RAM with tall heatspreaders. In general you don't need those heatspreaders anyway--they don't put out that much heat unless being overclocked maybe, which is stupid since that hardly helps performance at all. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
And you're doing something wrong if you can't fit a Corsair 600T in your $850 budget with those components since the case is only about ~$100. | ||
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