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You need SDRAM, SODIMM is for notebooks.
Your motherboard is not capable of SLI so there is no need for a 650w power supply.
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6950 can be had at a way lower price than the 570 and has similar performance.
You have an i5-2500k operating on a board that hates to overclock. Downgrade the CPU or upgrade the motherboard to a p67 family or a Z68. Since you stated you do not want to overclock, getting an overclocking CPU seems silly. So I would downgrade the CPU to a lower i5 that is locked.
This system will not need 650W and Rosewill is not the best brand anyway. Get a lower wattage PSU that is higher quality. You will save money as well.
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This is a bad build. Power supply is overpriced. Memory is a waste of money and there are less expensive GSkill kits even if you're a fanboy. Motherboard isn't a great choice.
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On November 03 2011 11:57 skyR wrote:You need SDRAM, SODIMM is for notebooks. Your motherboard is not capable of SLI so there is no need for a 650w power supply.
...duh wrong link. My bad. Let me edit that. And I will change the power supply.
Also, I wasn't entirely sure if I wanted to overclock, but it might be a good idea after all.
Alright, I'll look into the 6950 as well, thanks
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why are people getting biostar h61s.. they're so so bad.. my friend has one and it's just.. horrible..
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You named an MSI motherboard and then linked to a Gigabyte one so I am not positive which one we are talking about. However it does not matter because you do not plan to overclock. Or did this change? I don't understand why we are getting an i5-2500k which is more money solely for overclocking (Unless that deal is so good it is better than all the other i5's at the same time? These deals are so transcendental for me).
Additionally, we do not need a cooler if we are not overclocking. So thats an additional 40 bucks you are saving. We really need to figure out if you want to overclock because the savings are something like close to 150 bucks.
Also check the first page of this thread for good PSU manufacturers. Try to pick from the first tier, the second tier is fine if you get a sweet discount. I can't vouch for OCZ since I have never purchased a product from them. SkyR will probably mention something one way or another.
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<3 your name and thanks. I was actually going to ask if I could upgrade my monitor/resolution since I've got a little extra cash thanks to the processor/OS. This is exactly the kind of build I was hoping for. Much love
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Medrea, sorry about that. I updated the link with the MSI motherboard.
Well this build is for my friend, who is not very techy. I wasn't going to have him overclock for the sake of simplicity, but because we have a microcenter nearby which gives crazy discounts, and he wants to be a spoiled brat and play games on as high quality as possible, I figured overclocking might be a good idea for him.
With that in mind, I'm not too experienced with overclocking myself. Would I need to buy a fan other than the standard one? I wouldn't be surprised if I do, but if I do, can somebody link me one? I'm not too sure what would be good or not.
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Sorry, but my friend has a Biostar H61 and he has no problems. Might be my Taiwanese bias but I have always seen BS as a reliable brand. If you don't want the cool gun-shaped RAM chips then I guess you can get stuff cheaper. I guess I am too callow in the business industry =(
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On November 03 2011 11:58 Medrea wrote:
6950 can be had at a way lower price than the 570 and has similar performance.
You have an i5-2500k operating on a board that hates to overclock. Downgrade the CPU or upgrade the motherboard to a p67 family or a Z68. Since you stated you do not want to overclock, getting an overclocking CPU seems silly. So I would downgrade the CPU to a lower i5 that is locked.
This system will not need 650W and Rosewill is not the best brand anyway. Get a lower wattage PSU that is higher quality. You will save money as well.
huh? 6950 has similiar performance to 560 Ti, 6970 has similiar performance to 570
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I was going to say the same thing. I get tired of people comparing the 6950 and the 570, it doesn't make much sense. Yes the 6950 is at a better price point relative to it's performance but if you go by pure performance then the gtx 570 wins hands down.
Of course you could argue that in most games you won't notice much difference between the cards, but that's the games "fault" not the cards. You could say a gtx 590 offers the same performance with that logic.
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right shikyo, im woundered why ppl always talk some random stuff if they got no clue overall.
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On November 03 2011 13:01 GloryOfAiur wrote:
Sorry, but my friend has a Biostar H61 and he has no problems. Might be my Taiwanese bias but I have always seen BS as a reliable brand. If you don't want the cool gun-shaped RAM chips then I guess you can get stuff cheaper. I guess I am too callow in the business industry =(
Taiwanese bias? They're pretty much all headquartered in Taiwan, with design generally in Taipei and with production generally in China (Asus, Gigabyte, MSI, AsRock, Biostar, ECS, Foxconn, etc.).
But I agree that most motherboards will be okay. People sometimes have issues with the premium brands as well as the others, but in general there are few problems with any of them unless you're talking about a lack of features.
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On November 03 2011 17:58 nam nam wrote:
I was going to say the same thing. I get tired of people comparing the 6950 and the 570, it doesn't make much sense. Yes the 6950 is at a better price point relative to it's performance but if you go by pure performance then the gtx 570 wins hands down.
Of course you could argue that in most games you won't notice much difference between the cards, but that's the games "fault" not the cards. You could say a gtx 590 offers the same performance with that logic.
This is the whole point. Pure performance only matters to people with no budget. In that case shouldn't we all be suggesting Dual 590's or 6990's in quad SLI/Crossfire configuration? I have something against spending $1300 or more on graphics cards, call it bias.
This top-end cards between AMD and nVidia are all jockeying for best performance across very many games. Which is good, that is the sign of a healthy market. Unlike CPU performance where intel is ahead at all pricepoints all the time, the GPU market is somewhat up in the air.
So lets start then. At the posters probable resolution, both cards (6950 and 570) are over spec. In fact a 6870 is also fine. But the 6950 regularly goes 90 dollars or more cheaper than the 570. And I am well against purchasing frames that one will never get to see. So why didn't I recommend the 6870? I think the 6950 will hold out a lot longer in the coming years than the 6870, enough to make its purchase warranted especially since the 6950's seem to be getting great deals. However, the 570 will not be seeing an appreciative life increase over the 6950. For 90 bucks more, you will not see close to half an additional cards life.
The 560Ti is very price competitive though, and a wonderful nVidia alternative especially if the games you play favor nVidia.
There is more to it than that as well. nVidia has been making monolithic cards with high power consumption as well, and power is not free. Any watt spent rendering a frame is better in the hands of AMD now.
And finally, 300+ dollar cards are in a real odd point at the moment. For people with no budget limit, these are great in multi GPU configurations, but then I would be suggesting 580's. For people with single monitor displays with huge resolutions, okay yeah go into 300 dollar land, you need the performance and also VRAM. But when users typically possess 1050 or 1080p monitors. It makes very little sense to buy an enthusiast card, which I qualify as 300 or more. With this paradigm in mind, the best card to suggest is the card that produces the highest framerate, under the most sensible settings, for the least price, with respect to consumption, clocked or overclocked, with deals and discounts in mind, in conjunction with possible future alternatives. That spells 6950 across the board for me.
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