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Okay ty, I changed the RAM but kept the i5 2400. Does it matter if it's HIS or Sapphire? It's $15 less as HIS.
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On September 02 2011 12:43 xyOr wrote:Okay ty, I changed the RAM but kept the i5 2400. Does it matter if it's HIS or Sapphire? It's $15 less as HIS.
It doesn't matter, just brand preference.
On September 02 2011 12:41 Node wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2011 12:24 skyR wrote:
You're missing a motherboard unless I'm blind... Show nested quote +On September 02 2011 12:09 Node wrote:
Only thing I'm really unsure about is the motherboard, as I'm sure you've noticed by now is missing. It seems like there are a bajillion choices with only mild variation. All I'm really looking for is something that won't break and has spots for all my stuff.  Thanks for the advice, especially the graphics card stuff.
Ops, tends to happen with long posts unfortunately )=
Asrock P67 Pro3 is a very feature rich board (ex. 10 phases, 8 USB ports) at a good price, currently at $120 (was at $110 but Newegg decided to jack up the pricing...): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230
The more expensive boards just comes with more phases, more connectivity (USB, SATA, PCI-E, etc), slightly longer warranty (ASUS, MSI, Gigabyte have a three year warranty as opposed to the two from Asrock. Asrock is a sister company of ASUS that caters to the enthusiasts that are on a budget), and CrossfireX / SLI.
If you don't want the Asrock P67 Pro3 for a specific reason than you can look around for a P67 or Z68 since you'll be overclocking. The only difference between the two chipsets is that Z68 comes with SSD caching (that you won't be using), and the capability to use the IGP (for quick sync and lucid, troubleshooting as well if your GPU dies). Besides the chipset differences, most of the higher-end Z68 boards are identical in terms of connectivity and amount of phases. The lower Z68 boards are slightly different (ex. Asrock Z68 Pro3 has less phases and connectivity than the Asrock P67 Pro3). Be careful of Gigabyte Z68 boards since they decided to just take a Z68 chipset and slap it on the P67 PCB so you won't have IGP capabilities.
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On September 02 2011 12:41 Node wrote:EDIT: Browsing through PSU options, I found this, which seems to be basically identical with $40 off the price. Too good to be true?
Identical how? The only power supplies that are based off of / identical to that of the Seasonic X are the Corsair AX series and the XFX Black Edition series (afaik). None of OCZ power supplies are manufactured by Seasonic.
The Seasonic X series is overall much better than the OCZ ModXStream Pro but it's a decent choice if you want semi modular though. Unfortunately you won't find much modular choices that are 500w or less since it doesn't make much sense for a manufacturer to make these modular as there are so little cables to deal with.
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XFX Black Edition 750W and 850W (now called XXX Edition 750W and 850W) are Seasonic M12D, not Seasonic X Series. Only the 650/750/850W Corsair AX Series are Seasonic X Series (2nd gen X Series to be more precise) under the hood. But really, M12D is arguably better than X Series anyway.
As skyR mentioned, the Seasonic is a lot higher quality--better performance all around, higher-quality components and quality control, longer warranty, higher efficiency, more modular cables, quieter fan operation. It's more expensive to produce, so that's why the price is higher.
Anyway, ModXStream Pro was a decent option for a long time if you really wanted a cheaper modular unit.
But if you want a modular unit now on lower budget than the X Series, I suggest the Rosewill Hive 550W ($70):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182131
Apparently it's Sirtec B14C, same design used in OCZ ZS and Enermax NAXN 82+.
http://www.jonnyguru.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8257
Reviews of OCZ ZS units (not modular but the Hive is):
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=248
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/OCZ-ZS-Series-650-W-Power-Supply-Review/1361
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Your build doesn't make much sense.
The X58 chipset is meant to be used with triple channel kits.
LGA1366 and X58 is outdated, LGA1155 processors outperform it (besides the 990x). Only reason why you would get this outdated socket is that you need a hexcore now and can't wait for LGA2011 or Bulldozer.
Hec... sub par power supply. Why spend a premium on an enthusiast socket and EVGA... but entrust it to a shit power supply? It's only the heart of the computer that makes everything work...
On September 02 2011 13:46 Myrmidon wrote:
XFX Black Edition 750W and 850W (now called XXX Edition 750W and 850W) are Seasonic M12D, not Seasonic X Series. Only the 650/750/850W Corsair AX Series are Seasonic X Series (2nd gen X Series to be more precise) under the hood. But really, M12D is arguably better than X Series anyway.
I was referring to the newer Black Edition 900, 950, 1000, 1050, 1250.
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On September 02 2011 14:33 skyR wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2011 13:46 Myrmidon wrote:
XFX Black Edition 750W and 850W (now called XXX Edition 750W and 850W) are Seasonic M12D, not Seasonic X Series. Only the 650/750/850W Corsair AX Series are Seasonic X Series (2nd gen X Series to be more precise) under the hood. But really, M12D is arguably better than X Series anyway. I was referring to the newer Black Edition 900, 950, 1000, 1050, 1250.
Oh, current (future?) Black Edition. I don't think they're available yet, right? These correspond with all the newer high-wattage Seasonic 80 plus gold/platinum stuff? I guess Seasonic has to join the arms race for higher wattages too, to power all those builds out there that have like...three or more GTX 570s or HD 6970s.
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I need to get a wireless card for my desktop PC because it's quite inconvenient to set up a wired connection to my router.
I don't need a super powerful wireless card (the wireless router is almost directly below my PC, one floor down). Obviously I want my internet connection to be as fast as possible, but I don't care that much about having super fast LAN transfer speeds. I basically want it as cheap as possible.
Should I go for a USB or PCI? Any recommendations?
This is my motherboard btw http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=59496&vpn=BOXDH61WWB3&manufacture=Intel
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I'm no expert but in my own experience, wireless cards for desktops are a crapshoot. Personally I'd go for a usb with an adapter so you can move it around. I'd worry more about a stable connection rather than speed unless you need it. I'm using the Linksys Cisco AE1000. Has worked well for me so far but it's rather new and not the cheapest.
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^ have to agree with nam nam regarding wireless cards for desktops. It's a shame since I've been a MacBook user for awhile and those wifi cards are top notch. And recently Bigfoot released those Killer wifi cards for notebooks and those are terrific as well. I had to move my new desktop to a place where I could use ethernet, it's been great but a USB wifi option is your best bet. Also hopefully you have a good n-router, get an n-speed usb stick.
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skyR, I have to thank you, many, many times. And all the others who helped me pick my monitor as well.
That new rig is awesome. Outright awesome. Until now I had never had something really optimized, powerful, or even up to date. This computer is just perfect. I love it.
Thanks again !
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Is there any temp measuring program that is more reliable than others? I've literary got a 10 degree difference between HWmonitor and the asus program that came with the motherboard during full load.
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On September 03 2011 02:19 gruff wrote:
Is there any temp measuring program that is more reliable than others? I've literary got a 10 degree difference between HWmonitor and the asus program that came with the motherboard during full load.
What temps are you seeing in the highest, would be the best question...
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Hwmonitor shows 70 C when I run prime95.
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On September 03 2011 02:27 gruff wrote:
Hwmonitor shows 70 C when I run prime95.
On the cores, yes? Utterly safe if so.
If you get a variance like that, and don't have the means to test the stuff (accuracy of the software, unfortunately, is capable of varying by system), just use the highest number for the most safety.
Stupid cheap mans testing method STRONGLY not suggested Open this spoiler at your own risk. Use of this method is NOT suggested, but it will technically work.
+ Show Spoiler +You can, if you're willing to risk permanent damage, run your PC without a CPU cooler and put a mild load on the processor, with different monitor software open, and see which one is closest to TjMax when it shuts down. This is incredibly risky, potentially stupid, and not really worth it.
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Why exactly are you looking at an 800w PSU for an i5 and 560Ti? Did you just want to run at ~25% of capacity under 100% load?
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On September 03 2011 02:28 JingleHell wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2011 02:27 gruff wrote:
Hwmonitor shows 70 C when I run prime95. On the cores, yes? Utterly safe if so. If you get a variance like that, and don't have the means to test the stuff (accuracy of the software, unfortunately, is capable of varying by system), just use the highest number for the most safety. Stupid cheap mans testing method STRONGLY not suggested Open this spoiler at your own risk. Use of this method is NOT suggested, but it will technically work. + Show Spoiler +You can, if you're willing to risk permanent damage, run your PC without a CPU cooler and put a mild load on the processor, with different monitor software open, and see which one is closest to TjMax when it shuts down. This is incredibly risky, potentially stupid, and not really worth it.
Yes on the cores. I had been going with the asus for a while and got a little alarmed by the big difference when I tried hwmonitor. First time installing a cpu cooler as well so I'm a bit paranoid.
I'm not going to try that method though.
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