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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
September 01 2011 19:59 GMT
#10541
I believe you can get a 120mm Yate Loon through ncix for like $10. Solid little fans.
kunstderfugue
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico375 Posts
September 01 2011 22:04 GMT
#10542
With My $750 budget is it convenient to buy an SSD? $90 is quite the good deal.
Old lamps for new!
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
September 01 2011 22:09 GMT
#10543
On September 01 2011 03:44 Myrmidon wrote:
Take a very clear picture of the power supply label, or maybe just list everything it says about +12V/+5V/+3.3V and maybe the UL number. I'd suspect a freebie PSU to suck if it's some brand you've never heard of, but that's not necessarily the situation.

edit: if you can't really get all that info, it may just be worth blindly replacing the power supply, though it could be something else. Is the computer set to auto-reboot? What do system logs say?

I ended up replacing the power supply and it's working perfectly now. All the things that made it crash before are working just fine, thanks.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Dannnnn_The_Man
Profile Joined April 2011
United States166 Posts
September 01 2011 22:30 GMT
#10544
On September 02 2011 07:04 kunstderfugue wrote:
With My $750 budget is it convenient to buy an SSD? $90 is quite the good deal.


I was skeptical at first of a SSD, installed windows on it.

Used to be: Start computer up, wait 30 or 40 seconds for the computer to load all programs on start up.

Now: 5 seconds till im typign in firefox, i love it.
"I reject your reality and substitute my own!"
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
September 01 2011 22:35 GMT
#10545
Yeah, if you can get an SSD without hurting performance in any noticeable way (or below your tolerance level), it's worth it. Absolutely.
Dannnnn_The_Man
Profile Joined April 2011
United States166 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-01 23:00:04
September 01 2011 22:44 GMT
#10546
Looking for the wonderful help of myrmidon or jinglehell or skyR or anyone else knowledgeable.

You guys chose my build for my computer and for the last 2 monthes it has been working wonders!

Now my friend would like to build a computer after seeing mine complete. He didn't specify a price range so if you could maybe provide a $800 build and a $1000 build that'd be pretty awesome .

Things he has: Monitor, keyboard, mouse,

He needs: operating system
"I reject your reality and substitute my own!"
CuraOh
Profile Joined November 2010
Chile81 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-01 22:53:11
September 01 2011 22:52 GMT
#10547
@Dannnnn_The_Man
could you fill the questions of the OP that would be helpfull
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
September 01 2011 22:59 GMT
#10548
$904, if you don't want to overclock than just get a core i5 2400 and a h61 / h67 motherboard. If you want to reduce the total, just step down to a Radeon HD6850 or 6870. If you want to increase the total, just add an SSD.

Intel Core i5 2500k & Windows 7 Home Premium x64 @ $305
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.723046

Gigabayte GTX 560 Ti @ $235 ($205 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125363

Asrock P67 Pro3 @ $120
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230

Mushkin 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $43
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226095

Samsung Spinpoint F3 @ $40 (w/ promo code EMCKBGK32, ends 9/5)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185

Antec Neo Eco 520 @ $55
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371030

Coolermatser HAF 912 @ $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233

DVD Burner @ $18
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136216

Coolermaster Hyper 212+ @ $28
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065
Dannnnn_The_Man
Profile Joined April 2011
United States166 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-01 23:27:35
September 01 2011 22:59 GMT
#10549
OMFG how could i forget about skyR, i edited just to add to that last post =) Thank you very much skyR!

Hmm, is there a case in the $100 range by CoolerMaster with some nice led fans? He's not so techy so aesthetics will probably mean quite alot to him.
"I reject your reality and substitute my own!"
Anjuu
Profile Joined August 2010
United States57 Posts
September 01 2011 23:32 GMT
#10550
Hey all,

I’d like to get some feedback on sound cards. Currently I have a Razer AC-1 and I mostly use it with my headset a Corsair HS1A. I’ve honestly never owned any other soundcard beside onboard so I don’t really know if an upgrade will help at all. My quick appraisal is the Razer card is built more for 1st person shooters (which I don’t do—I play SC2 and that’s really it) and to be used with their proprietary headset. Also, I think the software that comes with it is built poorly at least for my purposes. The EQ is pretty non-effective and I’d like to push a bit more bass.

I don’t really care about 7.1 since I mostly use my headset but that looks like the big deal for most cards. Honestly, I’m a two channel guy that dabbled in audiophilla for many years. And my thing is I care how music sounds. If the music sounds good, then so will dialogue in a movie in my opinion. So, given that, I was curious to see if anyone had any recommendations as to brands/models and general tips for picking out a good card.

Also, besides SC2, I do a lot of listening to music while I type. As I said before, the base is an issue. If the card doesn’t fix it, I’ll probably get a higher grade headset.

Here’s my current system in case anyone’s curious: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ag9Zm14lsOGmdFVlOEZaYlNGLUFCdWlTbGRfUnAzUlE&hl=en_US&authkey=CJGg7soE
Zerg kebabs, Zerg creole, Zerg gumbo, pan fried, deep fried, stir fried. There's pineapple Zerg and lemon Zerg, coconut Zerg, pepper Zerg, Zerg soup, Zerg stew, Zerg salad, Zerg and potatoes, Zerg burger, Zerg sandwich... That's, that's about it.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-01 23:40:47
September 01 2011 23:38 GMT
#10551
You're looking to upgrade your headset/headphones, not the sound card (or possibly set up an even more extreme EQ setting). I'm not familiar with the Corsair HS1 but maybe it just has a lot less bass than you want.

If you're EQing, good practice to avoid clipping is just to lower the other frequencies, rather than push anything higher. But you could try increasing the bass and lowering everything else a lot, and then increasing the overall volume to compensate. That's not going to fix bass that is muddy or otherwise lacks control or has high distortion though.

Cheap bass-heavy headphones are like the Sony XB500, XB700. Something a little more hi-fi, sturdy and comfortable and with plenty of bass, especially sub-bass, is the Beyerdynamic DT770 Pro 80 (around $180).
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
September 01 2011 23:55 GMT
#10552
On September 02 2011 07:59 Dannnnn_The_Man wrote:
Hmm, is there a case in the $100 range by CoolerMaster with some nice led fans? He's not so techy so aesthetics will probably mean quite alot to him.


Storm Scout, Storm Enforcer, 690ii Advanced, and HAF 922.

Antec Nine Hundred Two V3 is also another option: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129097
Anjuu
Profile Joined August 2010
United States57 Posts
September 02 2011 00:36 GMT
#10553
On September 02 2011 08:38 Myrmidon wrote:
You're looking to upgrade your headset/headphones, not the sound card.
You're right about the bass. While I was writing that post I was thinking about going home and A/Bing the headset with my home preamp. All in all it is the biggest weakness/limitation in/of the HS1A--though for their price point I highly recommend them. They were bought not as audiophile grade but really for gaming and VOIP.

I'm still thinking about sound cards though and here's why. I just don't trust the AC-1. Mostly because the software doesn't help me accomplish my goals and also because the software has never been updated. So, I guess my question is are all sound cards the same? If not, what can I expect/look for in a better sound card?

My guess is that it's just like a home preamp. The quality of the preamp headphone output matters but since it doesn't take nearly as much to power headphones, I'm not sure if there's a discernible difference at least not in the under $200 range.
Zerg kebabs, Zerg creole, Zerg gumbo, pan fried, deep fried, stir fried. There's pineapple Zerg and lemon Zerg, coconut Zerg, pepper Zerg, Zerg soup, Zerg stew, Zerg salad, Zerg and potatoes, Zerg burger, Zerg sandwich... That's, that's about it.
xyOr
Profile Joined August 2011
United States28 Posts
September 02 2011 00:39 GMT
#10554
my budget is $634 (grant remainder), mainly for gaming (sc2, d3, ut3, wow), not planning to overclock, and would need an OS ($35 for students?). inspired by skyR, here is the setup, inputs welcome:D


Intel Core i5 2400 $190
hhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074

SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 6870 $175
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102948

ASRock H61M-VS $55
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157241

Mushkin 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $43
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226095

Samsung Spinpoint F3 $40 (w/ promo code EMCKBGK32, ends 9/5)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185

Antec Neo Eco 520 $55
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371030

Antec 300 Illusion $70
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233

DVD Burner $18
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136216

Coolermaster Hyper 212+ $28
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065

TOTAL: $674

What else could I do to reduce the price?
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
September 02 2011 00:47 GMT
#10555
+ Show Spoiler +
On September 02 2011 09:39 xyOr wrote:
my budget is $634 (grant remainder), mainly for gaming (sc2, d3, ut3, wow), not planning to overclock, and would need an OS ($35 for students?). inspired by skyR, here is the setup, inputs welcome:D


Intel Core i5 2400 $190
hhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074

SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 6870 $175
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102948

ASRock H61M-VS $55
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157241

Mushkin 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $43
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226095

Samsung Spinpoint F3 $40 (w/ promo code EMCKBGK32, ends 9/5)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185

Antec Neo Eco 520 $55
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371030

Antec 300 Illusion $70
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233

DVD Burner $18
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136216

Coolermaster Hyper 212+ $28
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065

TOTAL: $674

What else could I do to reduce the price?



Well there's always dropping a level on CPU or GPU. Other forumers probably have better ideas, but I don't think you need an aftermarket heatsink if you're not overclocking, so you can drop the 212+. You can definitely get a ~$30 copy of windows if you have an .edu address. You can drop to a lower priced case.

You can get a less expensive power supply. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371034 is one I looked up quickly. You may be able to get one that goes lower with mail in rebate or that I didn't notice in a super-quick check.
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
September 02 2011 00:55 GMT
#10556
Yo that's a Cooler Master HAF 912 at $60, not an Antec 300 Illusion.

I would remove the Hyper 212+ (doesn't seem like you're going for a low noise build--though there are better choices for that--and you're not overclocking, so no need for an aftermarket fan).

If you're getting a cheaper power supply, a reasonable one for $40 is the Rosewill Green Series 430W:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182202

Next step down for the GPU would be a HD 6850, for $150:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161384
xyOr
Profile Joined August 2011
United States28 Posts
September 02 2011 01:16 GMT
#10557
Thank you guys very much.. I downgraded the gpu to the 6850, and I would prefer the antec 300 illusion even tho its a bit more expensive. the total now is $621. I like the power supply that myrmidon suggested, but would 430w be enough?
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-02 01:20:06
September 02 2011 01:19 GMT
#10558
On September 02 2011 10:16 xyOr wrote:
Thank you guys very much.. I downgraded the gpu to the 6850, and I would prefer the antec 300 illusion even tho its a bit more expensive. the total now is $621. I like the power supply that myrmidon suggested, but would 430w be enough?


Myrm is one of our top posters and an electrical engineer. He's usually right about PSUs.

If you want to doublecheck, use the PSU calculator at extreme.outervision.com and plug in the build.
xyOr
Profile Joined August 2011
United States28 Posts
September 02 2011 01:25 GMT
#10559
On September 02 2011 10:19 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2011 10:16 xyOr wrote:
Thank you guys very much.. I downgraded the gpu to the 6850, and I would prefer the antec 300 illusion even tho its a bit more expensive. the total now is $621. I like the power supply that myrmidon suggested, but would 430w be enough?


Myrm is one of our top posters and an electrical engineer. He's usually right about PSUs.

If you want to doublecheck, use the PSU calculator at extreme.outervision.com and plug in the build.


I trust him, I see him on almost every page helping out Just wanted to make sure since the power supply is so crucial
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
September 02 2011 01:32 GMT
#10560
On September 02 2011 10:25 xyOr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2011 10:19 JingleHell wrote:
On September 02 2011 10:16 xyOr wrote:
Thank you guys very much.. I downgraded the gpu to the 6850, and I would prefer the antec 300 illusion even tho its a bit more expensive. the total now is $621. I like the power supply that myrmidon suggested, but would 430w be enough?


Myrm is one of our top posters and an electrical engineer. He's usually right about PSUs.

If you want to doublecheck, use the PSU calculator at extreme.outervision.com and plug in the build.


I trust him, I see him on almost every page helping out Just wanted to make sure since the power supply is so crucial


To give you an idea, my less power efficient, heavily OCed build with 2 GPUs runs on 650 no sweat.
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