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I have been making these for the past few seasons and they usually spark some fun discussion in the comments. Making this from my phone this time so sadly no actual tierlist dot com list. I might make one later.
Participants:
Mini Scan Shuttle Calm Rush Royal Speed Hyun Best BTS Mind Barracks Light Tyson Bisu Killer Queen Skey Jaedong Stork HerO Tulbo Action Ssak Rain Sharp Soulkey SnOw
Template:
https://tiermaker.com/create/asl-season-19-tier-lsit-16848610
My Tier list:
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S tier: Soulkey > SnOw > Best
A tier: Jaedong > Rush = Light > HerO > Mini > Queen > Sharp
B tier: RoyaL = Speed > Bisu = Rain > Action
C tier: Ssak > Barracks
D tier: Stork = Mind > shuttle = Killer
E tier: Scan = BTS = Tulbo = Tyson > Calm = Hyun
F tier: Skey
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Haven't watched BW since Flash first came back, but Best S tier? He makes units that aren't warped from the Gateway yet?
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On March 13 2025 00:55 Nirli wrote:
Haven't watched BW since Flash first came back, but Best S tier? He makes units that aren't warped from the Gateway yet?
Yeah. He has been on fire for a few months now, putting out maybe the best overall performances (online) beside Soulkey. But still not sure about putting him over SnOw.
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On March 13 2025 01:17 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2025 00:55 Nirli wrote:
Haven't watched BW since Flash first came back, but Best S tier? He makes units that aren't warped from the Gateway yet? Yeah. He has been on fire for a few months now, putting out maybe the best overall performances (online) beside Soulkey. But still not sure about putting him over SnOw.
hopefully he will do well (ro8 at least) in this upcoming ASL
FIGHTING!
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On March 13 2025 01:17 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2025 00:55 Nirli wrote:
Haven't watched BW since Flash first came back, but Best S tier? He makes units that aren't warped from the Gateway yet? Yeah. He has been on fire for a few months now, putting out maybe the best overall performances (online) beside Soulkey. But still not sure about putting him over SnOw.
Without regular proleague, and barely any of the Chinese sponsored Bo7/9 results registered on eloboard, I have no clue who is on top of the game right now. Checking eloboard is almost useless these days. What did Best do?
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On March 13 2025 02:30 M3t4PhYzX wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2025 01:17 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:On March 13 2025 00:55 Nirli wrote:
Haven't watched BW since Flash first came back, but Best S tier? He makes units that aren't warped from the Gateway yet? Yeah. He has been on fire for a few months now, putting out maybe the best overall performances (online) beside Soulkey. But still not sure about putting him over SnOw. hopefully he will do well (ro8 at least) in this upcoming ASL FIGHTING!
I think the chinese sponsored series that have been going for the past year have had a positive effect on the form for a bunch of players. The volume of games they play is on average higher than during the era they focused on just being in the proleague every day, which would often result in them playing 1-5 games at most during a proleague, and maybe zero to two sponsor sets before proleague. Most of the Chinese sponsored series go from bo5 to bo9, and they organize multiple of them every day. These spons are almost always with top 14 players. I think this has lead to a pretty good increase in average performance across the board. But sadly we do get fewer proleagues.
Best has been playing in alot of these.
Then there are also the Larva sponsored best of 11-21 series he has been doing vs Terrans. He hasnt done them in the past month, but in January and early february he did these quite frequently. I think he did over 80-100 natches. That alone is also a great contributor to TvZ form amongst the pros.
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On March 13 2025 00:55 Nirli wrote:
Haven't watched BW since Flash first came back, but Best S tier? He makes units that aren't warped from the Gateway yet?
 Good one , Nirli !!
Well , he did ! in fact , vs sSak in that game i've posted in the Casual thread!
Many shuttles with templars and nice storms !!
+ Show Spoiler +but he lost  so you are right !!
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On March 13 2025 02:48 prosatan wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2025 00:55 Nirli wrote:
Haven't watched BW since Flash first came back, but Best S tier? He makes units that aren't warped from the Gateway yet? Good one , Nirli !! Well , he did ! in fact , vs sSak in that game i've posted in the Casual thread! Many shuttles with templars and nice storms !! + Show Spoiler +but he lost so you are right !!
Ssak plays maybe the most BW right now beside maybe BTS. Ssak is in really good form in online play. But I dont know if he can translate that to Offline. I got high hopes for him though. He looks much more well rounded and focused than ever.
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I don't know about all of his mu but I find Mini to have a better zvp than snOw. Also Jaedong rank is just about right, he is in a much better shape than the last time I watched him in 2021, I hope he continues to grind games everyday as he does at the moment, he might overtake Soulkey in the future who knows.
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On March 13 2025 03:12 iFU.pauline wrote:
I don't know about all of his mu but I find Mini to have a better zvp than snOw. Also Jaedong rank is just about right, he is in a much better shape than the last time I watched him in 2021, I hope he continues to grind games everyday as he does at the moment, he might overtake Soulkey in the future who knows.
Please be right !!! 
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On March 13 2025 01:17 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2025 00:55 Nirli wrote:
Haven't watched BW since Flash first came back, but Best S tier? He makes units that aren't warped from the Gateway yet? Yeah. He has been on fire for a few months now, putting out maybe the best overall performances (online) beside Soulkey. But still not sure about putting him over SnOw.
Now give it to me straight - since the first post you've changed the list at least 3 times man :D
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On March 13 2025 03:59 Nirli wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2025 01:17 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:On March 13 2025 00:55 Nirli wrote:
Haven't watched BW since Flash first came back, but Best S tier? He makes units that aren't warped from the Gateway yet? Yeah. He has been on fire for a few months now, putting out maybe the best overall performances (online) beside Soulkey. But still not sure about putting him over SnOw. Now give it to me straight - since the first post you've changed the list at least 3 times man :D
I had to change a symbol in the list haha. Best is on fire. I will create a supported by recent series argument when i get back home.
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S tier: Soulkey > SnOw > Light
A tier: Mini = Rush = Queen > Best = Speed
B tier: Bisu = Sharp = Mind = Rain = Royal
C tier: HerO = Barracks = Action > Ssak
D tier: Stork > Jaedong > Hyun = Shuttle = Calm
E tier: Killer = Scan > Tyson
F tier: Tulbo ~ BTS ~ Skey
This is just based on recent results. I love Jaedong as much as the next guy - a match between him and Bisu is what originally got me into watching pro broodwar - but I have to be realistic here.
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i dont want to jinx the person im rooting for
but i think a protoss will take it all the way and win his first asl
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On March 13 2025 03:12 iFU.pauline wrote:he might overtake Soulkey in the future who knows.
LOL
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On March 13 2025 06:27 ThunderJunk wrote:
S tier: Soulkey > SnOw > Light
A tier: Mini = Rush = Queen > Best = Speed
B tier: Bisu = Sharp = Mind = Rain = Royal
C tier: HerO = Barracks = Action > Ssak
D tier: Stork > Jaedong > Hyun = Shuttle = Calm
E tier: Killer = Scan > Tyson
F tier: Tulbo ~ BTS ~ Skey
This is just based on recent results. I love Jaedong as much as the next guy - a match between him and Bisu is what originally got me into watching pro broodwar - but I have to be realistic here.
Damn, That is a very low placing for Jaedong though :O. He's been doing really good online so I got high hopes for him. If he can lock back into the correct mindset offline and bring those online performances to the offline stage he should be a top contender.
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On March 13 2025 07:01 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2025 06:27 ThunderJunk wrote:
S tier: Soulkey > SnOw > Light
A tier: Mini = Rush = Queen > Best = Speed
B tier: Bisu = Sharp = Mind = Rain = Royal
C tier: HerO = Barracks = Action > Ssak
D tier: Stork > Jaedong > Hyun = Shuttle = Calm
E tier: Killer = Scan > Tyson
F tier: Tulbo ~ BTS ~ Skey
This is just based on recent results. I love Jaedong as much as the next guy - a match between him and Bisu is what originally got me into watching pro broodwar - but I have to be realistic here. Damn, That is a very low placing for Jaedong though :O. He's been doing really good online so I got high hopes for him. If he can lock back into the correct mindset offline and bring those online performances to the offline stage he should be a top contender.
I wouldn't put JD anywhere near A tier atm. but putting him behind Stork seems kinda wild. I would probably resort D tier to JD>Shuttle>Calm>Stork>Hyun and could argue for Hyun to drop to D tier but the rest of ThunderJunks list I pretty much agree with. Maybe Light down to A tier atm.
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Soulkey SnOw
hero Rush Light sOrry
ZerO Speed Bisu Mini
Sharp True Action Best
Jaedong Stork sSak Shuttle Killer
Tyson YSC Mind Rain Barracks
Skey Scan Hyun Calm
edit: not too familiar with Skey, i dont know how good is Mind at the moment either. Killer is so under-rated and barely play, but when he does, he is a problem for anyone.
I feel like Action should be lower, but hes got an edge on anyone below in the rankings so i dont know.
Also, im not too sure if hero and Light deserve to be that high on everybody's list, mine included. If that list is for right now, and i believe it is; then sOrry, Zero and Speed are clearly right below Soulkey and Snow. Best is also playing very well, but i can't. I just can't. Sorry Best.
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respect sharp.
ssak > barracks = ??
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On March 13 2025 09:44 CHEONSOYUN wrote:
respect sharp.
ssak > barracks = ??
Ssak's been playing better the past few months. Barracks is taking more losses vs players in his skill range than Ssak, implying Barracks is going through a minor slump, whereas Ssak with more wins vs strong opponents seems to be going through a peak. This is purely ranked based on how they're doing right now(past 2 months). It could very well happen that Barracks locks in and gets out of his slump and Ssak loses his peak form. Ssak and Barracks though are so close in skill that they can easily switch rank based on how their week is going. Ssak could very well already be on a slight downwards trend and Barracks on an upwards trend. Ssak's actually done pretty poorly the last week, compared to Barracks doing well the past week, even though Barracks did get absolutely destroyed by Jaedong 2-7 and 2-5 the past few days. But I attribute that more to Jaedong being in really good form currently.
You could definitely make a fair argument against my placing of Ssak.
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