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Expensive-Law-9830
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
Netherlands1081 Posts
On April 25 2025 18:21 Expensive-Law-9830 wrote: JD 4:1 Snow ? we need ro8 power list! Soulkey Snow Light Queen Jaedong Rush Best Rain | ||
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Zografa
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Snow Zero Light Rush JD Rain Best | ||
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Expensive-Law-9830
130 Posts
On April 25 2025 21:32 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote: ? we need ro8 power list! Soulkey Snow Light Queen Jaedong Rush Best Rain In the duel series | ||
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TMNT
3114 Posts
On April 26 2025 04:27 Expensive-Law-9830 wrote: In the duel series Which were played at least six months ago. I know Saiyan is trying to increase popularity of his channel by pretending these games are recent, but please, not at the expense of misleading the community. Sad thing is when asked about the time the games were played in the comment, he said he didn't know, as if the time isn't imprinted in the replays lol. | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France7950 Posts
On April 26 2025 04:49 TMNT wrote: Which were played at least six months ago. I know Saiyan is trying to increase popularity of his channel by pretending these games are recent, but please, not at the expense of misleading the community. Sad thing is when asked about the time the games were played in the comment, he said he didn't know, as if the time isn't imprinted in the replays lol. Are you serious? Why are those games being casted months later? | ||
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TornadoSteve
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ZerO SnOw Rush Best Light Jaedong Rain 5&6 can swap | ||
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End1ess
Canada74 Posts
On April 26 2025 04:49 TMNT wrote: Which were played at least six months ago. I know Saiyan is trying to increase popularity of his channel by pretending these games are recent, but please, not at the expense of misleading the community. Sad thing is when asked about the time the games were played in the comment, he said he didn't know, as if the time isn't imprinted in the replays lol. if he want to increase popularity he needs to work on his casting. Most of the time his just reading of the screen thinking this is a podcast or the viewers are blind, at best B rank game knowledge. And his monotone casting like his in casting in a library. Nyoken please come back next season!! | ||
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TMNT
3114 Posts
On April 26 2025 06:14 Biff The Understudy wrote: Are you serious? Why are those games being casted months later? I guess because SCTV has a shit tons of these replays and wants to roll them all out. But to me it feels pointless to cast games from last season while the current one is being played. It's two different map pools! | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France7950 Posts
On April 26 2025 12:18 End1ess wrote: if he want to increase popularity he needs to work on his casting. Most of the time his just reading of the screen thinking this is a podcast or the viewers are blind, at best B rank game knowledge. And his monotone casting like his in casting in a library. Nyoken please come back next season!! I think you are harsh, his castings are enjoyable IMO and he brings lots of input. It’s true that he le bring the level of insight of Artosis and Nyoken, who understand the game at an exceptional depth. But i watch his casts and enjoy them. | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France7950 Posts
On April 26 2025 17:03 TMNT wrote: I guess because SCTV has a shit tons of these replays and wants to roll them all out. But to me it feels pointless to cast games from last season while the current one is being played. It's two different map pools! They really could roll them out as they are being played, that makes zero sense from them.. | ||
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TMNT
3114 Posts
On April 26 2025 17:35 Biff The Understudy wrote: They really could roll them out as they are being played, that makes zero sense from them.. Actually there's another reason that just occured to me. These series are monetized by SCTV (you need a subscription to their Korean channel to see the lastest games). They only release old VODs for free and Saiyan is feeding off these old replays. Wouldn't make sense for SCTV to demand a subscription for new VODs while at the same time giving them away for free to Saiyan. | ||
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
Netherlands1081 Posts
On April 26 2025 06:14 Biff The Understudy wrote: Are you serious? Why are those games being casted months later? Because they used to be sctv member only, casted in korean. I think Saiyan got the agreement with sctv to cast the SOOP duel series in february or so. But he can only cast what he receives from sctv. And I think ScTV gets access to the live game lobbies, and thus has autosave, through an agreement with the chinese sponsors and casters, because for as far as I know, these used to be organized by chinese money men starting way back to february 2024 or something. I know LoveTTT and WONIU were involved for the chinese organizers. Anyway bottom line, saiyan gets video or replays from sctv. And he is working through the backlog of material he receives. While it isnt super recent, its largely still within half a year ago. Its great we get to enjoy semi-recent pro content through tri-lateral cooperation. If he gets video feed, he might not have the replay files and not know the date. if he gets replay files he should have access to the date in the replay directory but he might not know the date is shown there. | ||
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TMNT
3114 Posts
If you look through the comments in these videos almost all of our naive foreign viewers think these games are relevant to the current ASL. Baffling that no one questioned the map pool. Even more weird, there's one series of Snow vs Light where the map pool is as follows: Polestar - Retro - Radeon - Blitz - Polypoid - Minstrel - DejaVu. Uhm that's like a mix of maps from ASL19, 18, 17 and [which season did we have Polypoid?]. Why on earth would Snow and Light agree to play on such a map pool in 2025? It makes me think it may not even be a series, but SCTV just threw a bunch of old replays together to make it look like a Bo7 and Saiyan was like "whatever, as long as I get another video out". If he gets video feed, he might not have the replay files and not know the date. if he gets replay files he should have access to the date in the replay directory but he might not know the date is shown there. I believe he has access to the replays, because I double checked a few games between Saiyan and SCTV channels, and the observer view is different at the same time in the same game. | ||
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
Netherlands1081 Posts
On April 26 2025 19:08 TMNT wrote: It's just sad that more content = more disinformation among the community, while it's supposed to create a more informed audience. If you look through the comments in these videos almost all of our naive foreign viewers think these games are relevant to the current ASL. Baffling that no one questioned the map pool. Even more weird, there's one series of Snow vs Light where the map pool is as follows: Polestar - Retro - Radeon - Blitz - Polypoid - Minstrel - DejaVu. Uhm that's like a mix of maps from ASL19, 18, 17 and [which season did we have Polypoid?]. Why on earth would Snow and Light agree to play on such a map pool in 2025? It makes me think it may not even be a series, but SCTV just threw a bunch of old replays together to make it look like a Bo7 and Saiyan was like "whatever, as long as I get another video out". I believe he has access to the replays, because I double checked a few games between Saiyan and SCTV channels, and the observer view is different at the same time in the same game. Can you link the light vs snow series? | ||
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TMNT
3114 Posts
Can't find the same VOD on SCTV either. Has no clue when this took place because the game on Polestar has to be in 2025, but the rest??? There are also a couple ones with a mixed map pool like this as well. | ||
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Miragee
8625 Posts
On April 26 2025 19:08 TMNT wrote: It's just sad that more content = more disinformation among the community, while it's supposed to create a more informed audience. I think this is where you are wrong. These casts are first and foremost entertainment, nothing else. There are people who cast or have been casting "random" replays from the ladder of games they found exciting. | ||
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TMNT
3114 Posts
On April 26 2025 23:38 Miragee wrote: I think this is where you are wrong. These casts are first and foremost entertainment, nothing else. There are people who cast or have been casting "random" replays from the ladder of games they found exciting. They are entertainment and disinformation. The two things are not mutually exclusive. If you put out these casts you have a responsiblity to inform viewers. What if I find a series where JD beat Light 4-0 a year ago and advertise it right before they play each other in the Ro8 of the current ASL. I know full well what I'm doing and the consequences it could lead to. | ||
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Miragee
8625 Posts
On April 27 2025 00:06 TMNT wrote: They are entertainment and disinformation. The two things are not mutually exclusive. If you put out these casts you have a responsiblity to inform viewers. What if I find a series where JD beat Light 4-0 a year ago and advertise it right before they play each other in the Ro8 of the current ASL. I know full well what I'm doing and the consequences it could lead to. I understand the argument, I just don't think there is that much of a responsibility case here. We are talking about watching Broodwar here. You make it sound like we are talking about current day politics and the responsibility of news anchors. Nobody is seriously going to be hurt here. | ||
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