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HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey766 Posts
March 13 2025 03:49 GMT
#21
SK should be God tier.
Crimson)S(hadow
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Philippines602 Posts
March 13 2025 04:40 GMT
#22
a lot of you guys are sleeping on jaedong right now, check his recent UBE performance:
+ Show Spoiler +
currently 4x winstreak, beating barracks 7-2, JYJ 5-4, Mini 5-4, and snow 5-4
"It's the end of the BW era which i devoted everything to for 10 years. I tried playing sc2, but my BW memories run too deep; I felt like I was playing an entirely different game" -ToSsGirL
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8538 Posts
March 13 2025 05:28 GMT
#23
On March 13 2025 13:40 Crimson)S(hadow wrote:
a lot of you guys are sleeping on jaedong right now, check his recent UBE performance:
+ Show Spoiler +
currently 4x winstreak, beating barracks 7-2, JYJ 5-4, Mini 5-4, and snow 5-4

yeah, but in this coin flip of BO 1 , we need a bit of luck.....
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
bw2ku
Profile Joined July 2023
24 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-03-13 06:35:45
March 13 2025 06:33 GMT
#24
I say this with Soulkey being my favorite player in mind: as far as his online performances go in the last couple weeks/months, he hasn't been on par with what he's capable of. He got destroyed by Snow in a bo7 yesterday or the day before, the score being like 4:1 I believe, and his proleague performances haven't been spectacular either. But given that he's won 3 ASLs in a row, hoping all these recent matches are just him messing around and not showing his actual form until offline starts.
bochs
Profile Joined February 2022
116 Posts
March 13 2025 06:46 GMT
#25
On March 13 2025 15:33 bw2ku wrote:
I say this with Soulkey being my favorite player in mind: as far as his online performances go in the last couple weeks/months, he hasn't been on par with what he's capable of. He got destroyed by Snow in a bo7 yesterday or the day before, the score being like 4:1 I believe, and his proleague performances haven't been spectacular either. But given that he's won 3 ASLs in a row, hoping all these recent matches are just him messing around and not showing his actual form until offline starts.


This has been my observation as well. Dude is not doing justice to his talent, taking sick days off almost every other day, and when he does go on stream, 80% of the time he's watching university leagues, playing League of Legends or Tekken or a Monopoly-looking board game or some other games, or fighting spirit macro map games with Calm, etc.
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1680 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-03-13 07:26:34
March 13 2025 07:23 GMT
#26
Tier 1 -> 2 zerg, 2 terran, 2 protoss
Tier 2 -> 2 zerg, 2 terran, 2 protoss
Tier 3 -> 2 zerg, 3 terran, 1 protoss
Tier 4 -> 2 zerg, 2 terran, 2 protoss

[image loading]

Can hardly get more balanced, I am always amazed by this after all this time, this game is truly blessed.
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1109 Posts
March 13 2025 08:12 GMT
#27
Also, this must be the closest real Tier of all the ASLs.
Even if they calculate points, those Tiers are kinda accurate.
Would swap Calm and True,
Speed and Shuttle,
And may be a few more, but it looks good
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1151 Posts
March 13 2025 13:53 GMT
#28
Updated the first post with a tiermaker dot com tierlist plus link to the tier list maker

Template:
https://tiermaker.com/create/asl-season-19-tier-lsit-16848610

My Tier list:
[image loading]

JDON MY SOUL!
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8165 Posts
March 13 2025 13:54 GMT
#29
How is best's PvP right now? IIRC he's been far weaker in the MU than the other top protosses.
Free Palestine
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2327 Posts
March 13 2025 14:38 GMT
#30
BeSt ... S rank

Rain and Bisu... C rank

the world has become a weird ass place
StarCraft & Audax Italiano.
LUCKY_NOOB
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Bulgaria1519 Posts
March 13 2025 14:51 GMT
#31
On March 13 2025 23:38 XenOsky wrote:
BeSt ... S rank

Rain and Bisu... C rank

the world has become a weird ass place


I'll believe it when he wins an ASL... Same with JD hype...
ko-fi.com/luckynoob
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1151 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-03-13 15:27:48
March 13 2025 15:25 GMT
#32
On March 13 2025 23:38 XenOsky wrote:
BeSt ... S rank

Rain and Bisu... C rank

the world has become a weird ass place


Bisu has only played bits of ladder for the past 3 months and I think his shape is worse than ever as a result. he has played zero actual pro vs pro matches and has streamed for a total of zero minutes since mid december. Hence why I put him much lower. Best has been doing great in best of sets and I think he is currently in his best form since 2021 when he initiated the shuttle templar meta shift. Rain played a big set vs ssak recently and went like 3-8 vs Ssak. I had to shift him down a fair bit.


Bisu last stream:
[image loading]
JDON MY SOUL!
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8645 Posts
March 13 2025 17:15 GMT
#33
On March 14 2025 00:25 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2025 23:38 XenOsky wrote:
BeSt ... S rank

Rain and Bisu... C rank

the world has become a weird ass place


Bisu has only played bits of ladder for the past 3 months and I think his shape is worse than ever as a result. he has played zero actual pro vs pro matches and has streamed for a total of zero minutes since mid december. Hence why I put him much lower. Best has been doing great in best of sets and I think he is currently in his best form since 2021 when he initiated the shuttle templar meta shift. Rain played a big set vs ssak recently and went like 3-8 vs Ssak. I had to shift him down a fair bit.


Bisu last stream:
[image loading]


He was obviously secretly practicing off-stream to destroy everyone in 2025.
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1151 Posts
March 13 2025 19:05 GMT
#34
On March 14 2025 02:15 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2025 00:25 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
On March 13 2025 23:38 XenOsky wrote:
BeSt ... S rank

Rain and Bisu... C rank

the world has become a weird ass place


Bisu has only played bits of ladder for the past 3 months and I think his shape is worse than ever as a result. he has played zero actual pro vs pro matches and has streamed for a total of zero minutes since mid december. Hence why I put him much lower. Best has been doing great in best of sets and I think he is currently in his best form since 2021 when he initiated the shuttle templar meta shift. Rain played a big set vs ssak recently and went like 3-8 vs Ssak. I had to shift him down a fair bit.


Bisu last stream:
[image loading]


He was obviously secretly practicing off-stream to destroy everyone in 2025.


While everyone else was partying in proleague, Bisu studied the blade.
JDON MY SOUL!
Zografa
Profile Joined February 2023
231 Posts
March 14 2025 12:13 GMT
#35
On March 13 2025 16:23 iFU.pauline wrote:
Tier 1 -> 2 zerg, 2 terran, 2 protoss
Tier 2 -> 2 zerg, 2 terran, 2 protoss
Tier 3 -> 2 zerg, 3 terran, 1 protoss
Tier 4 -> 2 zerg, 2 terran, 2 protoss

[image loading]

Can hardly get more balanced, I am always amazed by this after all this time, this game is truly blessed.

care to post that korean tier list again? somehow your pic is not loading
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1680 Posts
March 14 2025 13:32 GMT
#36
On March 14 2025 21:13 Zografa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2025 16:23 iFU.pauline wrote:
Tier 1 -> 2 zerg, 2 terran, 2 protoss
Tier 2 -> 2 zerg, 2 terran, 2 protoss
Tier 3 -> 2 zerg, 3 terran, 1 protoss
Tier 4 -> 2 zerg, 2 terran, 2 protoss

[image loading]

Can hardly get more balanced, I am always amazed by this after all this time, this game is truly blessed.

care to post that korean tier list again? somehow your pic is not loading


The URL was: https://stimg.sooplive.co.kr/NORMAL_BBS/7/15524207/378167d1292708881.png

It says internal server error, maybe it will be back soon.
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1244 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-03-14 15:46:02
March 14 2025 15:45 GMT
#37
I laughed a bit at this list. Best is the same as always, choker in big games, good to great otherwise.

From what I've noticed the biggest change before this ASL is that Queen is looking better this time around. Mini looks bored and unmotivated as fuck, he's still dangerous though.
SCRVN
Profile Joined June 2024
141 Posts
March 14 2025 16:16 GMT
#38
IMO...

[image loading]
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EndingLife
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1599 Posts
March 14 2025 18:15 GMT
#39
On March 15 2025 01:16 SCRVN wrote:
IMO...

[image loading]

JD & Royal quite low
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1151 Posts
March 15 2025 00:51 GMT
#40
On March 15 2025 03:15 EndingLife wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2025 01:16 SCRVN wrote:
IMO...

[image loading]

JD & Royal quite low

I find this the strangest rankings yet.
JDON MY SOUL!
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