EPTAnd I wish all Rain a
knocked out in the first round
ASL 19 Pre-season Power-rankings/tier List - Page 3
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Turbovolver
Australia2394 Posts
And I wish all Rain a knocked out in the first round | ||
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Soft_General_5023
110 Posts
Let's see how he does offline though. | ||
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
Netherlands1081 Posts
On March 15 2025 12:31 Soft_General_5023 wrote: Snow is killing everybody at the moment, last 30 games only lost 4, not even flash was that dominant imo. Let's see how he does offline though. Snow was more dominant than even this last year in january. He had like a 90% winrate over 60 games. edit: i went back to check. He went 63-8 over 2 weeks. two of those losses came at the end of that period. If we remove those two we get a 90% winrate. He reached the all time highest peak elo at that time. | ||
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Emnjay808
United States10665 Posts
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Miragee
8625 Posts
On March 15 2025 13:21 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote: Snow was more dominant than even this last year in january. He had like a 90% winrate over 60 games. edit: i went back to check. He went 63-8 over 2 weeks. two of those losses came at the end of that period. If we remove those two we get a 90% winrate. He reached the all time highest peak elo at that time. Well, he has to translate that to offline. If 2 of those losses come from the group stages, he's out... | ||
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Zografa
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
Netherlands1081 Posts
On March 15 2025 19:09 Zografa wrote: JD won another ultimate battle yesterday vs ssak 6-3, he is on a roll now winning bo9 vs snow, mini, barracks, jyj and now ssak... he also scores decent in proleagues... hope he can keep his good form into ASL, would love some nostalgia He also immediately went 0-4 vs snow right after But I think SnOw is just in ridiculously good shape right now. | ||
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iopq
United States1036 Posts
![[image loading]](https://i.ibb.co/Pzm6VBnk/my-image.png) the lowest tiers I just randomly put in, I actually don't care but I feel pretty strongly Soulkey is slightly better than everyone else | ||
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
Netherlands1081 Posts
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Biff The Understudy
France7950 Posts
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G5
United States2920 Posts
I love JD but when I watch his approach to games, he just seems like a very very very good ladder Zerg right now. Nothing too impressive imo. He seems to cheese a lot, have very basic-theory builds and not be truly confident in his play. His results have been pretty good lately but when I watch the games, his approach doesn't impress me too much. When I watch SoulKey, herO, and even Queen, they're approach and game-sense / theory seems so much better than JD's right now. JD has the style where if he got lucky he could go on a Royal type of run to a title but it would have to be just that, a Royal type of run, aka a pretty lucky ass run. | ||
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iFU.pauline
France1661 Posts
On March 16 2025 09:03 G5 wrote: Just from my eye test, Sharp, Barracks and Speed are extremely underrated by most. Tyson has also thrown out some really impressive games lately. Sharp, BarrackS, and Speed have been reeeeeally impressive for like a year+ now though. I love JD but when I watch his approach to games, he just seems like a very very very good ladder Zerg right now. Nothing too impressive imo. He seems to cheese a lot, have very basic-theory builds and not be truly confident in his play. His results have been pretty good lately but when I watch the games, his approach doesn't impress me too much. When I watch SoulKey, herO, and even Queen, they're approach and game-sense / theory seems so much better than JD's right now. JD has the style where if he got lucky he could go on a Royal type of run to a title but it would have to be just that, a Royal type of run, aka a pretty lucky ass run. I think you are a bit hard on JD  It is true that imo, he gets outsmart too easily ingame and his gameplay is ultra standard in ladder. But is he going to play like this for ASL? Usually it's a different picture we get, the best example was EffOrt for this. The question is that is JD going to polish specific build orders for ASL or not? I wonder. Not sure if he is willing to have this approach of the game coze, he is more into lazy brute force mode, so in a sense you are right, but I am confident that he could do it. He knows what it takes to win. Regardless, his recent performance vs T are quite impressive, really felt like vintage JD killing protoss with 6 mutas. | ||
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
Netherlands1081 Posts
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RowdierBob
Australia13297 Posts
A: Bisu, Royal, Queen, Best, Speed, Rush, Mini, Rain, Light B: JD, Barracks, Action C: Stork, Shuttle, Mind, Ssak D: BTS, tyson, ysc E: Killer, Skey, Scan F: Clam, Hyun My A tier is probably a bit bloated but warranted. JD down in B maybe harsh. Action possibly too. | ||
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
Netherlands1081 Posts
On March 16 2025 21:19 RowdierBob wrote: S: Soulkey, Hero, Snow (prob not deserved), Sharp. A: Bisu, Royal, Queen, Best, Speed, Rush, Mini, Rain, Light B: JD, Barracks, Action C: Stork, Shuttle, Mind, Ssak D: BTS, tyson, ysc E: Killer, Skey, Scan F: Clam, Hyun My A tier is probably a bit bloated but warranted. JD down in B maybe harsh. Action possibly too. SnOw is 100% deserved S Rank in your list. 100%. He's without a doubt the strongest player after Soulkey. Only reason SnOw didn't get to the Finals last two ASL seasons is Soulkey being on his side of the Ro8 Bracket. | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13297 Posts
On March 16 2025 21:54 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote: SnOw is 100% deserved S Rank in your list. 100%. He's without a doubt the strongest player after Soulkey. Only reason SnOw didn't get to the Finals last two ASL seasons is Soulkey being on his side of the Ro8 Bracket. I get it but I think we have to factor in he’s a bit of a choker in ASL tournaments. Was pretty lucky to get through Speed last season and got embarrassed by SK in the semis. If ASL was played purely online Snow would prob have won a couple of titles by now but he regresses offline. Still prob S tier but on reputation alone and not so much results. | ||
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Zografa
213 Posts
If he does this i think its pretty normal for him to reach the direct elimination stage. | ||
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Ideas
United States8150 Posts
On March 16 2025 22:15 RowdierBob wrote: I get it but I think we have to factor in he’s a bit of a choker in ASL tournaments. Was pretty lucky to get through Speed last season and got embarrassed by SK in the semis. If ASL was played purely online Snow would prob have won a couple of titles by now but he regresses offline. Still prob S tier but on reputation alone and not so much results. Yea protoss seems to just be plagued with chronic chokers: best, bisu, stork, snow... all perform much worse in offline than online usually. Only Mini and Rain have been able to win an offline tournament since remastered launched jeez. Even during kespa stork and bisu choked a lot in individual leagues. Bisu totally dominated proleague but never made it past Ro8 after like 2009. | ||
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ThunderJunk
United States723 Posts
On March 16 2025 23:13 Ideas wrote: Yea protoss seems to just be plagued with chronic chokers: best, bisu, stork, snow... all perform much worse in offline than online usually. Only Mini and Rain have been able to win an offline tournament since remastered launched jeez. Even during kespa stork and bisu choked a lot in individual leagues. Bisu totally dominated proleague but never made it past Ro8 after like 2009. I've said it several times but I'll keep beating this drum until they hear me. The ASL booths need one-way glass or P will lose to Z every time because Z can read the crowd to figure out the P tech path. | ||
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Emnjay808
United States10665 Posts
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