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i7-990x is a power monster. Usually I recommend people get cheaper heatsinks, but I'd do the opposite here, if you really want it to run quiet and cool.
There are few microATX cases that are geared for lower noise and can fit a bigger heatsink. Those that can, like maybe the Fractal Design Define Mini, aren't really that much smaller than normal mid towers.
CM Elite 341 has too much venting and is too thin and not really designed for low noise. I suppose if you can fit a good CPU heatsink in there, get a quieter hard drive and SSD, and choose a quiet graphics card, maybe add one or two low-speed intake fans, you could make it work somewhat.
HD 5770 is fine if you just want to play on high settings or so and only SC2 and not more demanding games. Maybe you should just look into a HD 6850 or higher.
I'd get a cheaper motherboard and RAM to help pay for these kinds of things.
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What is your budget?
Budgets around $1000, I'd go over if it's worth it but I'd like to keep it under if I can. I have a monitor already but I plan on buying another one in the near future.
What is your resolution?
1920x1080
What are you using it for?
Gaming mostly, (SC2, D3, some FPS's such as CoD - Medal of Honor etc, Amnesia, HoN, DotA 2)
What is your upgrade cycle?
Around 2 years, depending on whats released and such it could be sooner.
When do you plan on building it?
Within the next week or two.
Do you plan on overclocking?
I probably will.
Do you need an Operating System?
Yes
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No
Where are you buying your parts from?
Newegg or NCIX, doesn't really matter.
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Hello, I need tl help building a gaming rig with minimal school work with good multimedia. It's going to be my gf little brother first computer and he been saving for maybe2-3 years. He is only 15 and beside games he doesnt have much knowledge about computer so keep it simple.
What is your budget?
About 1000$ including screen, os and installation fees. The computer will be mainly use for computer games and high school type of work.
What is your resolution?
A new computer screen will be needed
What are you using it for?
Mostly gaming and couple of school work
What is your upgrade cycle?
Until he reach university or college
When do you plan on building it?
Within the next month
Do you need an Operating System?
An OS is around $100. It affects how much of your budget we can spend on the actual hardware.
Yes I need
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No
Where are you buying your parts ?
NCix or computer canada
Thank you all for all the future great response
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Hi everyone,
I've been a Mac user for the last 5 years and it's time I build a true gaming machine so that I can play these games to full potential. I am looking at purchasing the Asus VE247H or VH236H. Not sure on difference other then LED vs LCD. I would assume the LED has more latency lag? Anyways, my point is I will have a 1920X1080 display.
I want this computer to last me for the for see able future in tech and games as I tend not to upgrade or spend on my comps until the need truly arises.
This is what I have come up with so far. I am not planning on over clocking but the processor seems like a great deal and it gives the whole order free shipping.
Processor: Intel Core i5 2500K Quad Core Unlocked Processor LGA1155 3.3GHZ Sandy Bridge 6MB - $199
Motherboard: MSI P67A-G43 (B3) P67 ATX LGA1155 DDR3 2PCI-E16 3PCI-E 2PCI CrossFireX SATA3 USB3 Motherboard - $104.99 after MIR
Graphics Card: Powercolor Radeon HD 6870 PCS+ 940MHZ 1GB 4.4GHZ GDDR5 2XDVI 2XMINI DP HDMI PCI-E Video Card - $149.99 after MIR
RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws X F3-14900CL9D-8GBXL 8GB 2X4GB DDR3-1866 CL9-10-9-28 Memory - $69.99
HDD + SDD: Kingston SSDNow V100 Series 64GB 2.5IN SSD SATA Solid State Disk Flash Drive - $79.99
Western Digital WD20EARS Caviar Green 2TB SATA2 3Gbps 64MB Cache 3.5IN Hard Drive OEM - $69.99
Power Supply: Antec Basiq VP450 450W Power Supply ATX12V V2.3 Dual +12V Rail 120MM Fan - $24.99 after MIR
Drive: Samsung SH-S243D/BEBE 24X Black DVD Writer SATA OEM - $15.99
Total: (before case and tax) $715.92 CAD
Am I missing anything besides a case? Will all these parts function properly together? I apologize for the ignorance when it comes to the fine points of these machines but I really am a little out to lunch.
So if anyone could review this build and give me some feedback, suggestions, case ideas, I would greatly appreciate it!
oh, and all these items are from NCIX Canada.
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I see you came up with a very similar build for the guy above me. XD
The link you provided for ram just takes you straight to the same one I had picked. I'll assume you were sending me to the 8GB deal for $59 they have. With the link you sent, basically for the $10 in difference I would be getting 2FPS? lol... ok
I have a friend who has Windows 7, so yea no need for the OS. Thanks though!
Is that power supply good? or should I be going with something else.. I kinda had the same thoughts on the mother board. I really don't know what much of it means.
For the cost is it a good machine? Would I be better off going a little higher on some parts for optimal performance gains or is this kinda a sweet spot where costs meet performance and any much higher is not so cost effective.
And doing a SSD for OS and games and then that storage drive for media and whatever else, is a good idea>?
Ugh, sorry for so many questions everyone, just wanting to make a decision in the next few hrs as some of these deals wont last.
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Ops, this is the one I meant to link: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=57950&promoid=1337
The Basiq line is just average at best. If you're looking for longevity, I'd advise you get a XFX Core Edition 450w for $47 ($37 after mail in rebate): http://ncix.com/products/?sku=59614 , pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=15180AC2804
Well the P67 motherboards just allows you to overclock and the low-end P67 boards may or may not provide more features / connectivity but if you have no intention of overclocking, the H61 and H67 motherboards would serve you just as well.
Yes it's a good configuration. It's up to you whether you want to pay the extra for the extra performance but the performance per dollar diminishes quickly once you pass the ~$240 mark (GTX 560 Ti / Radeon HD6950 1GB).
If you have the cash and you'll benefit from having an SSD (reboot daily, play games such as RPGs that require a lot of loading, etc) than yes, an SSD for the operating system and frequently played games / used programs is a good idea while using the Caviar Green for storing media, documents, etc.
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On July 17 2011 22:43 HoBSoN wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2011 22:36 Madoga wrote:
CPU: Get an i5 2500k not a 2600k. The 2600k is not worth the money, especially for gaming.
GPU: You could pick the 570, he would be able to play games on high/ultra longer but overall the 560-ti and 6950 are far superior in price per performance. So I'd allso suggest one of those unless you are very demanding, than you might want to take a 570.
RAM: Since you have such a big budget, you might as well get 1600mhz ram, its optimal for performance. If you want to save a bit you could allso get 1333mhz ram, the difference is very small.
PSU: On your budget I wouldn't try to save on the PSU, its a very important component. For a GTX570 I'd get a 500~550W PSU Unless you plan on putting an unholy amount of peripherals in you PC.
Thanks - I will probably put in a 6950 in just because of personal preference To you guys: is the CM Storm Scout (http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/PID-MX24182%28ME%29.aspx) any good? I hear it can get a little cramped for space w/ large gpu's but what's your opinion of it?
My bad then, due to your budget I just assumed you would want decent and future-proof specs, so I just thought it would be nice to crank it to an i7. Usually when people give me a budget I try to spend it all. =(
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One question, I saw the thread about GPU for streaming and saw how all the answers said its mainly CPU. When you Fraps games overall (including FPS and RTS), is it CPU dependent as well, or different? I Googled and a few people told me its GPU that determines how well you are Frapsing.
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FRAPs is CPU and storage dependent. Whoever told you it's GPU dependent is clearly an idiot.
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Thanks for the honest opinion on that Antec. Would the PSU you suggested be good enough for overclocking, if I ever so chose to do so in the future?
Waiting to see if my friend has a extra case for me... otherwise I might just go for the Fractal Design Define R3 or XL ver. because of the padding to make them run quitter. Not to mention no extra holes for my puppies dog hair to get in. Heh.
You've been a big help so far skyR.
Thank you!!!
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I'm not one of our PSU experts, but I'm going to take a stab in the dark that just like any other PSU with a look fancy gimmick and a low price, it's probably shit.
Correction. It IS shit. 1 more amp on the 12v rail than the XFX Core 450. 12v Rail being what matters. It's essentially an over-rated 450w PSU, with no protections listed on the product page, a pretty gimmick.
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I've been a Mac user for the last 5 years and it's time I build a true gaming machine so that I can play these games to full potential. I am looking at purchasing the Asus VE247H or VH236H. Not sure on difference other then LED vs LCD. I would assume the LED has more latency lag? Anyways, my point is I will have a 1920X1080 display.
LED is the backlighting - it is still an LCD panel. There are two sorts of backlighting - LED and CCFL. Response times is a result of internal circuitry and the LCD panel itself; it has nothing to do with the type of backlighting.
Realistically there is no real performance difference from basic consumer LED backlighting and CCFL. A lot of people use LED backlighting for these purposes:
- lower power draw
- faster warm up times (note: this has nothing to do with response times)
- thinner monitors since you aren't using huge cold cathode tubes
- stays consistently bright for longer; CCFLs tend to dim after a few years of good use
Some people, such as HP, Dell, and NEC, still use CCFL in their high end professional lineup of monitors because it tends to have offer more consistent panel uniformity than (edge lit) LED backlighting but YMMV. At the end of the day, there is no real difference between a CCFL or LED monitor.
tl;dr
- if the LED monitor is the same price, or a little bit more expensive, than the non-LED monitor, get the LED monitor
- if the LED monitor is significantly more expensive than the non-LED monitor, get the non-LED monitor.
lol 650W PSU with one PCIe connector. Don't bother...
On July 18 2011 06:34 Myrmidon wrote:
i7-990x is a power monster. Usually I recommend people get cheaper heatsinks, but I'd do the opposite here, if you really want it to run quiet and cool.
There are few microATX cases that are geared for lower noise and can fit a bigger heatsink. Those that can, like maybe the Fractal Design Define Mini, aren't really that much smaller than normal mid towers.
CM Elite 341 has too much venting and is too thin and not really designed for low noise. I suppose if you can fit a good CPU heatsink in there, get a quieter hard drive and SSD, and choose a quiet graphics card, maybe add one or two low-speed intake fans, you could make it work somewhat.
HD 5770 is fine if you just want to play on high settings or so and only SC2 and not more demanding games. Maybe you should just look into a HD 6850 or higher.
I'd get a cheaper motherboard and RAM to help pay for these kinds of things.
There's also the Silverstone TJ08E. With such a small case, I don't think a slow spinning 18" Silverstone AP fan will have trouble staying quiet and keeping the insides cool. It also has 165mm worth of CPU clearance if you care about that. Just make sure the PSU is around less than 165mm long because you're going to have trouble fitting an optical drive otherwise.
The Fractal Design Define Mini, while very nice, is hardly a small case. Its really damned close to being the same size as many of the smaller ATX form factor cases...
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After looking things over, the 6870 says it needs a minimum 500w. So I guess that PSU is a no go..
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On July 19 2011 01:51 Lustaf wrote:
After looking things over, the 6870 says it needs a minimum 500w. So I guess that PSU is a no go..
Did the AMD people use a Ouija board, or just a magic 8 ball, when they were figuring out the configuration you were putting the card in, to know the exact PSU requirements for the total system?
They have to account for power hungry CPU's massively OCed, cold cathode lighting, 10k RPM RAID0's, and people using enough fans to lift their PC off the ground, not to mention absolute shit PSU's like that blue... thing... listed above.
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That's an impressive level of all around uselessness. Did they get sued at least?
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