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On July 18 2011 18:52 Lustaf wrote:
Thanks for the honest opinion on that Antec. Would the PSU you suggested be good enough for overclocking, if I ever so chose to do so in the future?
Waiting to see if my friend has a extra case for me... otherwise I might just go for the Fractal Design Define R3 or XL ver. because of the padding to make them run quitter. Not to mention no extra holes for my puppies dog hair to get in. Heh.
You've been a big help so far skyR.
Thank you!!!
Fractal Design is a good case, unfortunately you missed the bundle with a free Noctua heatsink )=
On July 19 2011 01:51 Lustaf wrote:
After looking things over, the 6870 says it needs a minimum 500w. So I guess that PSU is a no go..
The manufacturer recommendations have to account for low quality power supplies that don't provide advertised power that are usually found in prebuilts or bought for very little money and the billions of possible configurations.
The 6870 uses roughly 120w during a gaming load and 160w during a maximum load (not possible unless you are running a synthetic benchmark): http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/graphics/display/radeon-hd6870-hd6850_9.html
A Core i5 2500k uses roughly 60w under load (again, not possible without a synthetic benchmark): http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core-i5-2500-2400-2300_10.html#sect0
The XFX Core Edition 450w provides 34a on the 12v rail which is the rail that powers both these components and the majority of other components, that's 408w. Many 500w units provide the same amount of power as this XFX unit.
Even with an overclock on both the 6870 and core i5 2500k, you'll never or have an extremely hard time exceeding 300w.
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Anybody in the US want a backup power supply or perhaps an upgrade?
Antec Neo Eco 520C for $35 shipped, no rebate (shell shocker, ends soon) on newegg.
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On July 19 2011 01:55 JingleHell wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 01:51 Lustaf wrote:
After looking things over, the 6870 says it needs a minimum 500w. So I guess that PSU is a no go..
Did the AMD people use a Ouija board, or just a magic 8 ball, when they were figuring out the configuration you were putting the card in, to know the exact PSU requirements for the total system? They have to account for power hungry CPU's massively OCed, cold cathode lighting, 10k RPM RAID0's, and people using enough fans to lift their PC off the ground, not to mention absolute shit PSU's like that blue... thing... listed above.
Haha... oh!
I upgraded to a 700w because my friend was scarring me, saying never skimp on PSU. Now after your response and skyR again.. I dunno, maybe I'll just save the $20 or so and put back in the 450.
XD
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Dude... 700w is enough to OC an i7 Hex core with multiple GPUs...
If it's a good one anyways.
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On July 19 2011 02:54 skyR wrote:OCZ ModXStream Pros line of power supplies are decent but the XFX Core Editione line is better. The XFX 550w unit provides basically the same amount of power: http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=15180AC296144a on the XFX as opposed to 46a on the OCZ.
skyR, you've been an amazing help. Thanks a lot!
So just to be safe, I think I will have NCIX price match the 550 XFX and then have the $20 mail in which would ring it to $40 vs the $37 for the 450w.
As for the free heatsink... I'm going to sound ignorant again, but what would have done for me? Help control heat in the tower?
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You don't need a heatsink but yes it would help reduce the temperatures along with noise levels. I was just pointing out that you missed a great deal =p http://ncix.com/products/?sku=62618&promoid=1337 was available for $100. The case itself is $110 while the heatsink is $70.
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On July 19 2011 03:09 skyR wrote:You don't need a heatsink but yes it would help reduce the temperatures along with noise levels. I was just pointing out that you missed a great deal =p http://ncix.com/products/?sku=62618&promoid=1337 was available for $100. The case itself is $110 while the heatsink is $70.
Yea, I know you were.
WOW, $70 had no idea. I've got all this in my cart from last night and at the time there was only 9 left of the card at $199. Really still hoping they honor that price for me when I place my order here shortly.
Pretty sure I'm done the build, just deciding on a Steelseries 7G KB with the order now to since it's $15 off.
Thanks for all your help skyR.
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Are you referring to the Radeon HD6950 1GB for $200? If you are than you're out of luck since it's sold out. I'm pretty sure most of these components that were considered an amazing deal had a notice saying "processed in the order they are received." ><
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On July 19 2011 03:31 skyR wrote:
Are you referring to the Radeon HD6950 1GB for $200? If you are than you're out of luck since it's sold out. I'm pretty sure most of these components that were considered an amazing deal had a notice saying "processed in the order they are received." ><
Yea, kinda worried about that. UGH, had to just sleep on it since I've never bought before.
Guess I can place the order and see or just find a different card now.
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Hello,
budget= ~1000CAD (dont mind spending more when it comes to parts like PSU that I can carry to next build)
Have OS/Dont have monitor
Montreal, canada
75% internet/office/movies 25% gaming
No preference on websites or manufactures
HELP PLEASE!!!
Should I go with a 16** resolution vs 19** (cheaper monitor/gpu) and get a 2500k and expect it to last a good 6 years?
Also wanted some opinions on the lifetime of SSDs, I know most of the ones from ~2 years ago are dead, do you expect the same thing with current SSDs?
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First of all, thank you for your help.
Afew questions:
1- when i total it up, its at 747-30mir =717 (without the OS, since i have 7-64bit)
2- A monitor should go around 150-200$, is the reason you are not spending the 800$ (1000-200) cause its simply not worth it?
3-can the 6850 run games at 19** or just 16** resolution?
4-is the reason that you went for an SSD and not a more expensive GPU the way I use my computer? cause i totally agree but peoeple have told me not to get a ssd.
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Ya ops I totaled it up wrong. You're correct with your total.
Well there's not much more to spend it on for an non-overclocking configuration, sure you can get a more expensive case that suits your tastes or for silence, you could get a H67 motherboard instead, a higher quality power supply, etc, most of which I mentioned previously. If you wanted to, you can easily spend the remaining $200 for an overclockable configuration (core i5 2500k, p67 motherboard, coolermaster hyper 212+) but you didn't mention whether you wanted to overclock or not so I didn't do such a configuration. You can see the benefits of the core i5 2500k along with various other processors at different clock speeds in this article: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core-i7-2600k-990x.html
Yes, a Radeon HD6850 can run most current and upcoming games on reasonably high settings at 1920x1080.
You mentioned in the other thread you were thinking about putting money on an SSD so I included one. Since you mentioned that you only game 25% of the time, a stronger graphics card won't be all that much beneficial to you I would assume. An SSD increases overall system responsiveness and decreases load times of Windows and other applications.
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Last time i bother you 
1- I looked at the article, was surprised that at 3.3 the i5-2500k SC2 had only ~50FPS, I went to play a game (1v1) and check my fps on this laptop and it was at 30 in a battle.
for their tests, is the ~50 fps in a big 4v4 fight? if not, what should I be expecting from a i5-2400 running at 3.1?
2- I have no problem with overclocking but thats only if it would mean that I can use the computer for an extra year or something. (in my head: if the 800$ system works decent for 4 years, then i can justify spending another 200$ if its going to last at least 5 years cause I really dont care if i have 100 fps or 60 fps when im playing a game in 6 months)
and for me (I think i take good care of my computer), if most games play at 20 fps on lowest graphics or windows is the least not responsive when Im not doing much on the computer, then its time to switch)
3- I dont mean to be disrespectful but is a 430W or even 550W enough for running my next build in ~3 years or however long this machine lasts? (I dont think ill ever SLI/crossfire even after university when I have money but I might get a good single card then [like the 6950/570 of those days)
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The FPS figure is the average FPS. I'm not sure what kind of replay they use for testing though. Starcraft II is heavily CPU dependent and even with the core i5 2500k, you can drop to 30 fps in certain late game scenarios.
Yes, overclocking would increase the performance lifespan of the processor.
Yes, both power supplies would be adequate for three years. The core i5 2400 / 2500k consumes roughly 60w under load while the Radeon HD6850 consumes roughly 100w and high-end cards such as the Radeon HD6950 consumes around 170w, under load. Even with both a GPU and CPU overclock, the configuration I recommended will never exceed 300w under load.
I did mention previously you should be getting a XFX Core Edition power supply, either 450 or 550 if you had longevity in mind since these are of higher quality than the Corsair CX line.
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@ataryens: Don't be nervous about those PSU numbers at all. With a Corsair TX650 (not V2, decent but not amazing), I'm powering SLI 460's, massively OCed, and an OCed i7 930, with your typical assortment of HDD, SSD, way more fans than most people use.
My configuration is way more power hungry than anything you're looking at, and I'm maybe pulling 500-550w.
And if you want to see CPU numbers for a giant zergling vs zergling fight with unit counts more like you'd expect in 1v1 bad situations, I did some memory benchmarks today, they're in my TL blog. That's with my CPU, which is slower clock for clock than Sandy Bridge, and lower stock clocks.
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Ok, thank you guys very much. Really appreciate your help.
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im building my comp atm, and i have a problem
i have the audio cables, its labbeled HDA, and that has a plug, then coming out of that is PCI- e
but i only have 1 plug that they go into in my motherboard
do i need both, or pick one?
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