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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Assuton
Profile Joined November 2010
United States28 Posts
July 19 2011 04:14 GMT
#8461
Hi, I have a Windows 7 64 bit upgrade disk that my brother gave me from his University, and I'm wondering if i can use that when I build my computer and put on a new hard drive.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-19 04:18:29
July 19 2011 04:16 GMT
#8462
On July 19 2011 13:12 epikAnglory wrote:
Anyone have suggestions of this build?
http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=24077388
Planning to overclock to 3.7 to 4.0 gHz (Can someone please check if the PSU is compatible with the Mobo)


You don't seem to grasp the difference between a CPU cooler and a case fan. Entirely different products. CPU cooler includes a heatsink. Xigmatek Gaia should be ~$30, and is good for a light OC.

The RAM is overpriced for tiny gains, and I mean tiny. You don't need heat spreaders on your memory, either. You should just get a cheap 1333Mhz CL9 1.5v RAM kit for ~$32.
Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-19 04:17:57
July 19 2011 04:16 GMT
#8463
On July 19 2011 13:14 Assuton wrote:
Hi, I have a Windows 7 64 bit upgrade disk that my brother gave me from his University, and I'm wondering if i can use that when I build my computer and put on a new hard drive.


No. It's an upgrade disk, so you need a licensed copy of 64 bit Vista or XP pre-installed to use it.
There is no one like you in the universe.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-19 04:20:31
July 19 2011 04:18 GMT
#8464
On July 19 2011 13:16 Blisse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 13:14 Assuton wrote:
Hi, I have a Windows 7 64 bit upgrade disk that my brother gave me from his University, and I'm wondering if i can use that when I build my computer and put on a new hard drive.


No. It's an upgrade disk, so you need a licensed copy of 64 bit Vista or XP pre-installed to use it.


Dead wrong, you can do a clean install with it.

http://windowssecrets.com/top-story/clean-install-windows-7-from-the-upgrade-disc/
Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-19 04:28:03
July 19 2011 04:23 GMT
#8465
On July 19 2011 13:18 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 13:16 Blisse wrote:
On July 19 2011 13:14 Assuton wrote:
Hi, I have a Windows 7 64 bit upgrade disk that my brother gave me from his University, and I'm wondering if i can use that when I build my computer and put on a new hard drive.


No. It's an upgrade disk, so you need a licensed copy of 64 bit Vista or XP pre-installed to use it.


Dead wrong, you can do a clean install with it.


That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

Trolled by my now useless research done when Windows 7 was released. My bad.

Very interesting though.

In my defense,

“To use upgrade software, you must first be licensed for the software that is eligible for the upgrade. Upon upgrade, this agreement takes the place of the agreement for the software you upgraded from. After you upgrade, you may no longer use the software you upgraded from.”
There is no one like you in the universe.
epikAnglory
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1120 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-19 04:33:21
July 19 2011 04:24 GMT
#8466
On July 19 2011 13:16 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 13:12 epikAnglory wrote:
Anyone have suggestions of this build?
http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=24077388
Planning to overclock to 3.7 to 4.0 gHz (Can someone please check if the PSU is compatible with the Mobo)


You don't seem to grasp the difference between a CPU cooler and a case fan. Entirely different products. CPU cooler includes a heatsink. Xigmatek Gaia should be ~$30, and is good for a light OC.

The RAM is overpriced for tiny gains, and I mean tiny. You don't need heat spreaders on your memory, either. You should just get a cheap 1333Mhz CL9 1.5v RAM kit for ~$32.

Ah nono I do understand, I just rushed the search and messed up. If it is $30 for a fan for a LIGHT upgrade then I do not think it is worth the money of overclocking, just thought it would be cool. Should I stay at a P67 to be budgetly-future proof (OC) or just stay at an H67 atm? It would be great to save money now, but I do not want to regret in the future either.

Current Build with P67 and i5 2500k to OC in the future:
http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=24077388
+
http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11654973&whse=BC&Ne=4000000&eCat=BC|84|1680&N=4047243&Mo=10&No=3&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&cat=1680&Ns=P_Price|0||P_SignDesc1&lang=en-US&Sp=C
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Assuton
Profile Joined November 2010
United States28 Posts
July 19 2011 04:33 GMT
#8467
Ah I see. Thanks for the link, I knew I read somewhere that it could be done
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-19 04:46:35
July 19 2011 04:46 GMT
#8468
so i believe i have everything in the right place,but it wont turn on, what are some general mistakes people make that i can check? ive gone over my work and dont see any issues, power points work etc
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-19 04:49:53
July 19 2011 04:49 GMT
#8469
On July 19 2011 13:46 L3g3nd_ wrote:
so i believe i have everything in the right place,but it wont turn on, what are some general mistakes people make that i can check? ive gone over my work and dont see any issues, power points work etc


- You forgot the 4+4pin connector.
- You forgot the PCIe connector for your graphics card.
- You didn't use standoffs.
- You didn't plug in the front panel headers correctly.
- You didn't turn on the power supply (1 is on, 0 is off).
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
July 19 2011 04:59 GMT
#8470
what are 4+4 pin connectors? does that connect to HDD? cant see anything else.

And what are standoffs?
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
July 19 2011 05:12 GMT
#8471
The 4+4pin connector comes from your power supply and goes near the CPU socket. It provides power for the processor.

Standoffs are the golden screws on your case that you install the motherboard on top of.
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
July 19 2011 05:31 GMT
#8472
all of those ive done.

A friend of mine thinks the PSU is dead, cos apparently if i unplug the connections to motherboard and connect green + black the fan should start but it didnt
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
July 19 2011 05:44 GMT
#8473
Yes, that would be a dead power supply.
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
July 19 2011 05:53 GMT
#8474
well, shit
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
July 19 2011 05:54 GMT
#8475
On July 19 2011 14:31 L3g3nd_ wrote:
all of those ive done.

A friend of mine thinks the PSU is dead, cos apparently if i unplug the connections to motherboard and connect green + black the fan should start but it didnt


Did you have the power supply hooked up to anything at all, like a single fan? They won't necessarily turn on by jumping them unless there's a load attached to power.
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
July 19 2011 05:57 GMT
#8476
the PSU is still connected to everything, except for the 24 whole plug
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
Lustaf
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada17 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-19 06:04:08
July 19 2011 06:00 GMT
#8477
On July 19 2011 13:24 epikAnglory wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 13:16 JingleHell wrote:
On July 19 2011 13:12 epikAnglory wrote:
Anyone have suggestions of this build?
http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=24077388
Planning to overclock to 3.7 to 4.0 gHz (Can someone please check if the PSU is compatible with the Mobo)


You don't seem to grasp the difference between a CPU cooler and a case fan. Entirely different products. CPU cooler includes a heatsink. Xigmatek Gaia should be ~$30, and is good for a light OC.

The RAM is overpriced for tiny gains, and I mean tiny. You don't need heat spreaders on your memory, either. You should just get a cheap 1333Mhz CL9 1.5v RAM kit for ~$32.

Ah nono I do understand, I just rushed the search and messed up. If it is $30 for a fan for a LIGHT upgrade then I do not think it is worth the money of overclocking, just thought it would be cool. Should I stay at a P67 to be budgetly-future proof (OC) or just stay at an H67 atm? It would be great to save money now, but I do not want to regret in the future either.

Current Build with P67 and i5 2500k to OC in the future:
http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=24077388
+
http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11654973&whse=BC&Ne=4000000&eCat=BC|84|1680&N=4047243&Mo=10&No=3&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&cat=1680&Ns=P_Price|0||P_SignDesc1&lang=en-US&Sp=C



Dude get the Asus Asus V236H better response time and just overall higher quality product. After the $20 MIR it's all of $5 dollars more.

I just built a machine and placed an order today through NCIX. You should try them, they will price match any cost you find and I got free shipping. I was using Newegg till I found it all cheaper there.

L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
July 19 2011 06:04 GMT
#8478
On July 19 2011 14:44 skyR wrote:
Yes, that would be a dead power supply.

it just doesnt seem logical to me that a brand new unused PSU can be fried,

what causes it to be fried?
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-19 06:08:06
July 19 2011 06:07 GMT
#8479
On July 19 2011 13:24 epikAnglory wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 13:16 JingleHell wrote:
On July 19 2011 13:12 epikAnglory wrote:
Anyone have suggestions of this build?
http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=24077388
Planning to overclock to 3.7 to 4.0 gHz (Can someone please check if the PSU is compatible with the Mobo)


You don't seem to grasp the difference between a CPU cooler and a case fan. Entirely different products. CPU cooler includes a heatsink. Xigmatek Gaia should be ~$30, and is good for a light OC.

The RAM is overpriced for tiny gains, and I mean tiny. You don't need heat spreaders on your memory, either. You should just get a cheap 1333Mhz CL9 1.5v RAM kit for ~$32.

Ah nono I do understand, I just rushed the search and messed up. If it is $30 for a fan for a LIGHT upgrade then I do not think it is worth the money of overclocking, just thought it would be cool. Should I stay at a P67 to be budgetly-future proof (OC) or just stay at an H67 atm? It would be great to save money now, but I do not want to regret in the future either.

Current Build with P67 and i5 2500k to OC in the future:
http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=24077388
+
http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11654973&whse=BC&Ne=4000000&eCat=BC|84|1680&N=4047243&Mo=10&No=3&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&cat=1680&Ns=P_Price|0||P_SignDesc1&lang=en-US&Sp=C


The P67 C43 is a bad choice when the Asrock P67 Pro3 is $5 more expensive and is a much more feature rich board than the C43: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230

Your memory is still overpriced, just saying... 2x2GB is available for less than $30: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231394

Coolermaster power supplies aren't that great... a Corsair CX430 V2 is $2 more before mail in rebate with a much bigger mail in rebate making it $25 after. It's of higher quality and provides basically the same amount of power: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026

The core i5 2500 already overclocks itself to 3.7GHz (Turbo Boost) btw so you aren't overclocking at all. If that's the case, just get a H61 or H67 motherboard. If you're not going to overclock past 4.2GHz than you don't need the K variant of the 2500 as the regular 2500 can be overclocked to 4.1GHz.

On July 19 2011 15:00 Lustaf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 13:24 epikAnglory wrote:
On July 19 2011 13:16 JingleHell wrote:
On July 19 2011 13:12 epikAnglory wrote:
Anyone have suggestions of this build?
http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=24077388
Planning to overclock to 3.7 to 4.0 gHz (Can someone please check if the PSU is compatible with the Mobo)


You don't seem to grasp the difference between a CPU cooler and a case fan. Entirely different products. CPU cooler includes a heatsink. Xigmatek Gaia should be ~$30, and is good for a light OC.

The RAM is overpriced for tiny gains, and I mean tiny. You don't need heat spreaders on your memory, either. You should just get a cheap 1333Mhz CL9 1.5v RAM kit for ~$32.

Ah nono I do understand, I just rushed the search and messed up. If it is $30 for a fan for a LIGHT upgrade then I do not think it is worth the money of overclocking, just thought it would be cool. Should I stay at a P67 to be budgetly-future proof (OC) or just stay at an H67 atm? It would be great to save money now, but I do not want to regret in the future either.

Current Build with P67 and i5 2500k to OC in the future:
http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=24077388
+
http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11654973&whse=BC&Ne=4000000&eCat=BC|84|1680&N=4047243&Mo=10&No=3&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&cat=1680&Ns=P_Price|0||P_SignDesc1&lang=en-US&Sp=C



Dude get the Asus Asus V236H better response time and just overall higher quality product. After the $20 MIR it's all of $5 dollars more.

I just built a machine and placed an order today through NCIX. You should try them, they will price match any cost you find and I got free shipping. I was using Newegg till I found it all cheaper there.



Pricematching is only available for Canada. NCIXUS will not pricematch and shipping can be quite expensive since it's shipping from BC or Ontario to the states.

On July 19 2011 15:04 L3g3nd_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 14:44 skyR wrote:
Yes, that would be a dead power supply.

it just doesnt seem logical to me that a brand new unused PSU can be fried,

what causes it to be fried?


Some components just come DOA unfortunately.
epikAnglory
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1120 Posts
July 19 2011 06:09 GMT
#8480
I am not sure if this is the right place, but anyways:

I am selling a computer to some rich dude, and I actually got away with this deal, though I am not sure if it benefits me.

Intel Q6600 @ 2.4 gHz
Locked Mobo that can't Overclock
4 GB DDR2
ATI 5670 1 GB
Windows 7 64-Bit Ultimate Pirated
300 GB HDD

I am selling it for $550, and he is paying me $45 for 12 months. He thought my computer was godly because it ran Maplestory and Soldier Front smoothly with iTunes and Skype in the background. How much am I making out of this?
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