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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Lustaf
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada17 Posts
July 19 2011 06:11 GMT
#8481
Yea skyR, I realized he wasn't the Canadian site of newegg after I posted. XD

Still from all the reviews I've read of the V236H and MLG officially using it, I would say it's a safe bet and a solid product.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
July 19 2011 06:15 GMT
#8482
On July 19 2011 15:09 epikAnglory wrote:
I am not sure if this is the right place, but anyways:

I am selling a computer to some rich dude, and I actually got away with this deal, though I am not sure if it benefits me.

Intel Q6600 @ 2.4 gHz
Locked Mobo that can't Overclock
4 GB DDR2
ATI 5670 1 GB
Windows 7 64-Bit Ultimate Pirated
300 GB HDD

I am selling it for $550, and he is paying me $45 for 12 months. He thought my computer was godly because it ran Maplestory and Soldier Front smoothly with iTunes and Skype in the background. How much am I making out of this?


Your configuration is worth $200 at most -.- I pity the person that's buying this for $550.
epikAnglory
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1120 Posts
July 19 2011 06:15 GMT
#8483
On July 19 2011 15:11 Lustaf wrote:
Yea skyR, I realized he wasn't the Canadian site of newegg after I posted. XD

Still from all the reviews I've read of the V236H and MLG officially using it, I would say it's a safe bet and a solid product.

Is it worth it for $180? The only site I can find it is in Bestbuy California.
710+ Posts with a Probe Icon =D
Lustaf
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada17 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-19 06:22:56
July 19 2011 06:22 GMT
#8484
On July 19 2011 15:15 epikAnglory wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 15:11 Lustaf wrote:
Yea skyR, I realized he wasn't the Canadian site of newegg after I posted. XD

Still from all the reviews I've read of the V236H and MLG officially using it, I would say it's a safe bet and a solid product.

Is it worth it for $180? The only site I can find it is in Bestbuy California.

Buy.com or B&H Both have free shipping in the USA.

L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
July 19 2011 07:41 GMT
#8485
this worked : )

http://forum.corsair.com/v3/showthread.php?t=63991

PSU isnt broken.

Rebuilding everything tonight, hopefully i wont make the same mistake, whatever it was
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
July 19 2011 10:42 GMT
#8486
do i need to apply thermal paste to my CPU? or will it alraedy have it on it
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
Owniee
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom16 Posts
July 19 2011 10:54 GMT
#8487
I'm new to making computers and infact have never had one, just a laptop, so bare with me.

What is your budget?

Roughly £400 - £500, which is around $600 - $750 USD.

What is your resolution?

1920x1080

What are you using it for?

Mostly gaming with school work, potentially frapsing and sony vegas editing as well.

What is your upgrade cycle?

2 - 3 years.

When do you plan on building it?

As soon as possible, so within the next weeks or so

Do you plan on overclocking?

Nope

Do you need an Operating System?

Nope

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

Nope

Where are you buying your parts from?

Amazon or Ebuyer

As i am generally a computer noob, any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
July 19 2011 12:19 GMT
#8488
okay my comp is finally built.

Thank you to everyone @ TL who helped me out : ) It is very much appreciated, i learnt a lot, and although im not all of a sudden a tech expert, i feel ive got some things i can pass on to others, so ill browse this thread every now and then to give back, as a thanks to everyone who helped me.

While TL isnt the only place i got to help me pull knowledge, it was a helpful place, and without all the places that helped, i wouldnt have a brand new kick ass computer.

<3 you guys
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-19 15:10:54
July 19 2011 15:00 GMT
#8489
@Owniee:

Feel free to make some substitutions I guess, particularly the motherboard--if you want something with more ports or features (e.g. USB3 support) or that potentially may be more reliable. And whatever case too. I chose low-end options on both to keep costs down.

Core i5-2500 - £156.27
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/251597

Biostar H61MGC - £39.60
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/274290

Kingston 2 x 4GB DDR3 RAM - £39.48
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/172949

Sapphire HD 5830 - £94.99
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/269749


XFX HD 6870 - £127.00
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/244474

StarTech two molex -> PCIe power adapter (the HD 6870 doesn't come with one for once?) - £1.96
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/124029

Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB - £37.98
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/173804

Lite-On CD / DVD-RW - £14.49
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/190838

Corsair CX430 V2 - £37.83
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/271798

Cooler Master Elite 335 - £29.73
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/151368
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
July 19 2011 15:04 GMT
#8490
for 30£ he can have a 6870 in the place of the 5830, isn't it a better deal ?
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/244474
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
July 19 2011 15:09 GMT
#8491
On July 20 2011 00:04 Rachnar wrote:
for 30£ he can have a 6870 in the place of the 5830, isn't it a better deal ?
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/244474


Good catch. I was about to edit that in. In fact I was just noticing that that package seems not to include any PCIe power adapters so you'd actually need to get one of these:

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/124029
Swad1000
Profile Joined January 2011
United States366 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-19 15:20:25
July 19 2011 15:16 GMT
#8492
I am looking to upgrade my old old old computer to where it is capable of playing sc2 without lagging at all low settings. I play at all low settings (what i prefer)and when I hit the late game my comp hits 1 fps.

My comp regularly maintains a 40c temp on all parts. So no overheating even when playing sc2.


What is your budget?
$200 IMore if something like a cpu upgrade is required to stream sc2.
What is your resolution?
1024x768

What are you using it for?

Just upgrading so Sc2 does not lag anymore. I also want to know how much it would cost to upgrade the computer to stream sc2 games.

What is your upgrade cycle?
Every time a new sc comes out.

When do you plan on building it?

Before the end of July.

Do you plan on overclocking?

Nope

Do you need an Operating System?

Nope

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

Nope

Where are you buying your parts from?
Newegg


This is my setup right now.

Operating System
MS Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit SP1
CPU
AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+
Manchester 90nm Technology
RAM
2.00 GB Single-Channel DDR @ 133MHz (2.5-3-3-6)
Motherboard
NF-CK804 (Socket 939)
Graphics
ATI Radeon HD 5670 512mb
Hard Drives
244GB Western Digital WDC WD2500JS-00SGB0 ATA Device (SATA)
Optical Drives
HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GH22NS30 ATA Device

The Parts I was looking to upgrade with.
CPU
Motherboard
Memory
HDD ( I do not need more space but I was not sure if my old HDD was holding back performance),

http://www.hardware-revolution.com/budget-gaming-pc-july-2011/ Is the site I picked the parts from.
Kollapse
Profile Joined April 2010
United States125 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-19 15:35:47
July 19 2011 15:32 GMT
#8493
Hello everyone. I realize this isn't exactly computer resource related, but this is much simpler (and I assume much "less" against the rules) than creating a new thread for this simple question.

I'm moving into a new apartment tomorrow and Time Warner Cable does not have an appointment available for internet installation until August 1st. SIGH. DOUBLE SIGH!

I'm curious if anyone knows of a temporary solution to this? A fairly cheap, pay as you go, 3G USB stick perhaps? Is phone tethering acceptable for starcraft gaming? Any links or knowledge would be much appreciated.

Thank you.

EDIT: Yes, of course I'm doing my own research as well, but I trust the people here and they may know of something I can't find.
Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-19 15:38:50
July 19 2011 15:33 GMT
#8494
@Swad1000

I don't think you should be dropping down to 1 fps with that hardware, but you could use an upgrade regardless. An upgrade is definitely necessary if you want to stream.

You could theoretically move up to an AM3 motherboard and Athlon II X4 (not X3) or Phenom II X4 and stream on fairly low settings. With the required RAM upgrade there, that would be just about $200. However, I don't recommend this option. If you can spare the money now, it's better to spend on current-generation tech that will be better for streaming and SC2 performance, and will last longer.

CPU comparison:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/363?vs=188

Core i5-2400 - $195
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074

AsRock H61M-VS - $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157241

G.Skill 2 x 2GB DDR3 RAM - $30
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231394


@Kollapse

AFAIK most 3G networks have horrible latency unsuitable for gaming. I've not tried it though.
ensign_lee
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1178 Posts
July 19 2011 18:24 GMT
#8495
@swad:

Honestly, I think you'd be better off just replacing your entire computer. However, if you're dead set on spending $200 to upgrade parts instead of replacing the comp, then I would do the following things:

1) More RAM - I'm assuming you have DDR2 based on the other parts you listed, so it'll unfortunately be expensive. I think 4GB of DDR2 is like $80 atm? SC2 can use about 3.5GB by itself, not counting windows, etc.
2) Replace your video card with a 5770 / 6770. That should run about $100.

Unfortunately, that eats just about your whole budget of $200 that you stated. That should help.

But yeah...would probably be better off saving and getting like $700 to $800 and getting a brand spanking new computer, which play SC2 MUCHHH better. You're getting bottlenecked by a variety of things atm.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
July 19 2011 18:33 GMT
#8496
I disagree. A HD 5670 is plenty fine for 1024x768 gaming compared to the rest of the computer. If he wants to stream, he needs to get rid of the ancient 90nm dual core.

Also, he has DDR memory on socket 939, not DDR2.
Wabbit
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1028 Posts
July 19 2011 21:06 GMT
#8497
@swad:

Go with Myrmidon's build, though I would go for a 2500 (not k) instead of 2400 if you're not overclocking. The $15 more gets you a few more FPS in SC2 and is the highest-clocked non-overclockable i5 you can get.

If you divide FPS per $, at least for SC2, the 2500 seems worth it (to me at least) - according to this benchmark:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU/129
The answers to most of your Tech Support questions are in the OP. That's why you're not getting a reply. It's been answered before. Read the OP.
ensign_lee
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1178 Posts
July 19 2011 21:22 GMT
#8498
Myrmidon - just saw that your additions only cost $300. Hell yeah swad, do what he said.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-19 21:30:03
July 19 2011 21:28 GMT
#8499
On July 20 2011 06:06 Wabbit wrote:
@swad:

Go with Myrmidon's build, though I would go for a 2500 (not k) instead of 2400 if you're not overclocking. The $15 more gets you a few more FPS in SC2 and is the highest-clocked non-overclockable i5 you can get.

If you divide FPS per $, at least for SC2, the 2500 seems worth it (to me at least) - according to this benchmark:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU/129


Most or at least part of the difference shown there is probably due to inconsistency in testing. The i7-2600k shouldn't be slower than the i5-2500k there, since it has 100 MHz more and 2MB more L3 cache.

Below you see the i7-2600k as faster or at least equal to the i5-2500k in SC2, whereas the opposite is true from the AT bench:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core-i7-2600k-990x_9.html#sect2
http://techreport.com/articles.x/20188/6

But yeah, anyway, i5-2300 and i5-2500 are other options if you want to pay a little less or more for (mostly) proportional changes in performance.
Wabbit
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1028 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-19 21:41:33
July 19 2011 21:40 GMT
#8500
+ Show Spoiler +

On July 20 2011 06:28 Myrmidon wrote:

Most or at least part of the difference shown there is probably due to inconsistency in testing. The i7-2600k shouldn't be slower than the i5-2500k there, since it has 100 MHz more and 2MB more L3 cache.

Below you see the i7-2600k as faster or at least equal to the i5-2500k in SC2, whereas the opposite is true from the AT bench:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core-i7-2600k-990x_9.html#sect2
http://techreport.com/articles.x/20188/6

But yeah, anyway, i5-2300 and i5-2500 are other options if you want to pay a little less or more for (mostly) proportional changes in performance.



Sometimes, I am just not thinking enough

Edit: Amusingly, that's one of my bookmarked pages for Sandy Bridge gaming performance.
The answers to most of your Tech Support questions are in the OP. That's why you're not getting a reply. It's been answered before. Read the OP.
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