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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-28 19:31:06
April 28 2011 19:30 GMT
#4801
On April 29 2011 04:22 Miiike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2011 23:18 Womwomwom wrote:
Yes, that motherboard/CPU combo should work fine. If you are only using one card (and honestly, you should only be using one card) a single x16 slot is enough.

If you are thinking that the motherboard will blow up, I really, really doubt it but it hasn't been the first time a mid-range MSI motherboard has blown up due to stupidly high overclocks.

The i5-2500k should overclock to 4ghz easy by simply changing the multiplier. If you're not confident with changing voltages, just change the multiplier around until you get a stable setting.

The bundle deal is OK, you save around $20.


As I said I'm not too strong on mootherboard knowledge. What are the other options out there for a single GPU, Intel-based setup? I see a lot of reccomendations for gigabyte mobos, are they a good go-to option?


The Gigabyte P67 UD3 and Asrock P67 Pro3 are both good boards around the $130 pricepoint.
.Mystic
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada486 Posts
April 28 2011 20:04 GMT
#4802
ncix 15th anniversary up!
find any amazing deals yet?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 28 2011 20:26 GMT
#4803
core i5 2500k & noctua heatsink for $220
core i7 2600k for $290
benq 24" VA panel for $200
MSI GTX 460 768mb Cyclone for $100
MSI GTX 570 for $270
Vertex 2 120GB for $150

are all good deals
UrASofty
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Canada772 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-28 21:47:31
April 28 2011 21:43 GMT
#4804
they also have a 60gb vertex for 75.99. just ordered one of them
i be that pretty motherfucker
.Mystic
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada486 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-28 23:18:35
April 28 2011 23:15 GMT
#4805
so this is going to be my build

cpu: i5-2400 - $175
gpu: HIS radeon HD 5850 - $100
or evga gtx 460 768mb Fermi - $100
Mobo: Asrock H61 - $65
Case: antec 300 gaming - $40
Hard drive: 500gb WD - $40
Ram: 2x2gb g.skill 1333 - $40
Power supply: Antec neo Eco 450C - $40
or Corsair builder series 430W ATX - $35

roughly $500
What do you think? Alrite or better suggestions?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 28 2011 23:23 GMT
#4806
Not sure where you're getting these prices from but the Antec Neo 450w is only $35: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=60491&promoid=1097 and the Corsair CX430 V2 is only $30: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=60345&promoid=1097

It's a good build. Not sure how improved the CX430 V2 is but its still an CWT OEM, still 28a on the 12v, now has a 80+ certification, and a three year warranty (as opposed to two). Given the price difference, I'd go with the Antec.
.Mystic
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada486 Posts
April 28 2011 23:28 GMT
#4807
these prices are with taxes, my bad. Antec it is then.
hd 5850 > gtx 460 768mb?
thx skyr
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 28 2011 23:29 GMT
#4808
Yes, the 5850 is better than the GTX 460.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
April 28 2011 23:35 GMT
#4809
CX V2 is apparently just "slight tweaks to meet the warranty and efficiency requirements" (still CWT DSAII of pretty much the same quality it looks like, nothing like the difference between TX and TX V2):
http://www.jonnyguru.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7876

I'd go with that Antec as well, but the CX / CX V2 are okay.
Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
April 29 2011 01:49 GMT
#4810
So I'm finalizing with this deal I think, just want to make sure the prices I'm getting are the best Thanks for all the help so far!

ASRock H61ICAFE LGA 1155 Intel H61 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard - $84.99
Intel Core i5-2400 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz (3.4GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52400 - $189.99

Also, my friend told me to get the ASRock H61CAFE over the ASRock H61. Because I am heading to college next year and not planning to upgrade my computer until at least a year from now, I was afraid that the ASRock H61CAFE would depreciate anyways and I'd need a new mobo, so I might as well go with the ASRock H61, however, he told me that in one year the H61CAFE will still be a pretty good mobo that I can keep for my next upgrade
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Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-29 02:10:26
April 29 2011 02:09 GMT
#4811
Motherboard deprecating? I'm not sure what you mean by that. Unless the motherboard breaks or you need a feature that your current one doesn't support (and that can't be added with an expansion card, e.g. not USB3 since there are USB3 expansion cards), there's no need to upgrade your motherboard anyway. All the current H61, H67, and P67 (and upcoming Z68) chipset motherboards should be compatible with next year's Ivy Bridge processors.

AsRock H61iCafe is a pretty nice option since it's relatively cheap, it has 4 RAM slots, it's full ATX so has more expansion slots than microATX motherboards, it has USB3, and it has SATA3. Those are pretty much all the features of a motherboard most people would want except maybe multi-GPU support (but that's usually not a great idea anyway) and CPU overclocking ability. So if those extra features over whatever other H61 motherboard you were considering are worth the extra price, go for it. If you won't be using any of those things, you can go with the cheaper option.
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
April 29 2011 02:10 GMT
#4812
On April 29 2011 10:49 Superiorwolf wrote:
So I'm finalizing with this deal I think, just want to make sure the prices I'm getting are the best Thanks for all the help so far!

ASRock H61ICAFE LGA 1155 Intel H61 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard - $84.99
Intel Core i5-2400 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz (3.4GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52400 - $189.99

Also, my friend told me to get the ASRock H61CAFE over the ASRock H61. Because I am heading to college next year and not planning to upgrade my computer until at least a year from now, I was afraid that the ASRock H61CAFE would depreciate anyways and I'd need a new mobo, so I might as well go with the ASRock H61, however, he told me that in one year the H61CAFE will still be a pretty good mobo that I can keep for my next upgrade


I'm just reading about this board. The H61 only supports 2 memory slots and was confused to see four on this board; thier website says "» Due to chipset limitation, if you plan to install three or four memory modules on this motherboard, please install only single-sided memory modules." This can be confusing for the end user as I'm not even sure how you can double check to see which modules are doubled sided or not.

I recommend this board instead: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157236
starleague forever
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-29 02:13:56
April 29 2011 02:12 GMT
#4813
I think that means that you can't use 4 RAM sticks that have actual chips on both sides of the board. A typical 2GB DDR3 stick has modules only on one side, while most 4GB sticks have modules on both sides. I guess they found a way to split the RAM like that? I'm not sure how it's wired up.

So a user getting 2 x 2GB DDR3 now could upgrade to 8GB on that iCafe board by adding another 2 x 2GB set, if I'm reading it right.
epikAnglory
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1120 Posts
April 29 2011 02:36 GMT
#4814
Will I notice a huge difference between 32 and 64 bit? I have Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit with 4 GB of RAM. The reason I do not update is because my parents have a lot of important files such as TurboTax programs (they lost the CD) and a lot of other files in there that I do not look forward to backing up. I use the Q6600 and ATI 5670, is 64 bit that important?
710+ Posts with a Probe Icon =D
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 29 2011 02:53 GMT
#4815
A 32-bit operating system can only address 4GB of memory. If you have 4GB of RAM and a 5670 1GB than you are left with ~3GB of RAM.

64-bit removes the 4GB limitation.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
April 29 2011 02:57 GMT
#4816
Which is probably not a big deal. I can't really imagine 4GB being definitely enough RAM if ~3GB is not. You probably don't need more than the ~3GB you use now. (Or possibly you need more than 4GB anyway, if you're editing large videos or something like that.) It just seems unlikely that the threshold of how much you need is like between ~3GB and 4GB.
Zeke50100
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2220 Posts
April 29 2011 03:40 GMT
#4817
Windows is ~20-25% of the RAM used up, so really, you'd be left with ~2.4GB RAM and 1GB for the 5670, compared to having both the 1GB for the 5670 and ~3.2GB RAM for the system excluding Windows. If you run multiple things like games, browsers, word processors, and most importantly, streaming programs, etc. simultaneously, it might be worth upgrading.
.Mystic
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada486 Posts
April 29 2011 07:40 GMT
#4818
there wouldn't be any performance difference if i got 1 4gb ram stick rather than 2x2gb?

can you suggest a cheap wifi adapter
holynorth
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States590 Posts
April 29 2011 08:06 GMT
#4819
I'm having a slight problem with my new computer.

I5 2500k overclocked to 4.5 ghz
8 gigs 1333 ram DDR3
1tb F3 Spinpoint
32gb ADATA SSD
Nvidia 560 TI

Occasionally, when watching youtube or listening to itunes, my computer will stutter. The mouse becomes unresponsive and the sound stutters for 2-3 seconds. This will happen several times per minute when it is occurring. I can go a day or two without it occurring. I have tried watching the task manager but there is no spike in resources used (cpu or memory).

This is highly annoying Any ideas?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 29 2011 16:57 GMT
#4820
@HCmystic

Performance difference is minor.

@holynorth

Please post complete specs when asking for help with troubleshooting (you are missing motherboard, windows, vcore on your overclock, power supply). I'm going to assume you are using Windows 7 64-bit and an ASUS board. Your problem is most likely related to the freezing experienced by many other users except that you aren't actually freezing.

Ensure that your chipset, network, USB, graphics card drivers, and various other drivers are up to date.

Ensure that this problem is not a result of your overclock and that you are prime95 stable at stock speeds. Clear your CMOS. Ensure that your CPU base clock is 100 and you have C3 / C6 / Speedstep disabled.

Set memory manually to 1333MHz 9-9-9-24 @ 1.55v and run memtest86+ for a minimum of four passes to ensure stability.

If you are not using the Marvell SATA ports (dark blue), disable it in the BIOS. You should have your primary boot device on the Intel 6Gbps ports (white).

Clear your CMOS and ensure that everything is running at stock settings.

Turn of all power-saving features in Windows (turn off usb, turn off monitor, turn off harddrive, sleep etc) and disable PLL in the BIOS.
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