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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
April 29 2011 22:32 GMT
#4841
On April 30 2011 07:29 miL. wrote:
Thanks Myrmidon. My friend isn't interested in overclocking, and so the only reason I've picked the 'k' version is because our local retailer is out of the regular version, and they're the same price anyway. Thus, a cpu cooler won't be needed.

I was under the impression that the H67 boards were aimed towards non-dedicated GPU setups, hence the choice of a P67 board. I remember looking at some kind of website about the differences in boards but I've seemed to lose the link.

As far as the power supply goes, anything from Memory Express would work. The main choice is either between Antec or Corsair.


The main differences with P67 are going to be SLI compatibility and OC potential.

H67 will take a single GPU setup just fine.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 29 2011 22:40 GMT
#4842
@djcube

It is very unlikely that Intel will drop its prices on their Sandybridge processors. Bulldozer's performance is not expected to be on par with Sandybridge processors in applications that use less than four cores. What most likely is going to happen is that AMD will price their quad cores at the sub $160 mark and have their hex and quad cores compete against the core i5 2400, 2500k, and core i7 2600k processors.

@miL.

I'd get the Antec Truepower New 650w for $70 over a Corsair CX: http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/PID-MX24744(ME).aspx

It's a lot more than what is necessary to run your configuration but you could keep it for the next few build as well.

If you're not overclocking and don't need a lot of features or connections, go with a H61 board to save yourself some money: http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/PID-MX32903(ME).aspx
Brettatron
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada159 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-29 22:53:02
April 29 2011 22:48 GMT
#4843
Hello everyone. So I posted earlier in the thread (about page 236 I think) saying I was ordering in a month or two but things have changed and I plan on ordering early next week. I've poured over the thread and asked people and such and come up with the following parts. If someone could look them over and give them a go ahead and or give suggestions that would be great.

Intel Core™ i5-2400 Processor, 3.10GHz ($189.99)
Gigabyte GA-H67A-UD3H-B3 ($144.99)
Kingston ValueRAM 4GB PC3-10600 DDR3 Dual Channel Kit (2 x 2GB) ($52.99)
Western Digital 500GB Caviar Black 7200rpm SATA III w/ 32MB Cache ($54.99)
eVGA GeForce GTX 560 Ti FPB 1GB GDDR5 PCI-E ($229.99)
Cooler Master CM 690 II Basic Mid Tower, Black ($99.99)

And I also need a PSU. That I haven't really figured out what kind of watts and voltage and what have you I need. Someone suggested 700watts but I just don't know and I don't feel like guessing.

All prices are in Canadian dollars. Everything is coming from www.memoryexpress.com and I'd like to keep it that way if possible. I'm going to be using it mostly for gaming. SC2, some MMO's, Portal 2 are all being played by me currently. Play in 1920x1080. May take up streaming too. Also some general web browsing and word processing, spreadsheeting, Potentially some AutoCADing and structural analysis/finite analysis programs. Going to be running Widows 7 64-bit. Also not overclocking since I have no idea what I'm doing (I considered getting a core i5 2500k to OC but figured I'd break something =)

Thanks everyone.
nka203
Profile Joined May 2010
United States102 Posts
April 29 2011 22:51 GMT
#4844
i5 2500 on ebay for $180 ish brand new.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220774595465&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

just thought id let u guys know
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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-29 22:59:04
April 29 2011 22:57 GMT
#4845
@Brettatron

A power supply in the 400-500w would be capable of handling a configuration like yours. Something such as the Antec Earthwatts or Corsair CX. These aren't that great purchases at Memory Express cause of their pricing. The best buy would be the Antec Truepower New 650w for $70: http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/PID-MX24744(ME).aspx A lot more than what is necessary for your configuration but you'll be able to keep it for several builds if you wanted to.

Don't buy that motherboard. It is extremely overpriced for a H67 board, get this one instead (even if you are not getting a core i5 2500k, you can still increase the multiplier by four): http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/PID-MX32728(ME).aspx If you are willing to purchase elsewhere such as NCIX or Canada Computers, you can get a H61 / H67 board for $60 - $100.

The build is good but most of the components at Memory Express are overpriced by a good $20 or more.

I'd go for the Antec Three Hundred for $70 instead: http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/PID-MX20934(ME).aspx
Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
April 29 2011 22:58 GMT
#4846
About the Sapphire HD 5850 Xtreme, how quiet is the cooler? My emphasis is on quiet and cool since I don't play too intense anyways.

I'm on a tight budget and really tried to go for quiet sub-150 without MIR. My first choice was the Asus 6850 but it's very unlikely to drop to 150. Not very sure about the 460s. The 5850 seems to outperform it most of the time. The load noises are a lot higher than the Asus 6850 load because of fan settings, but that might be able to be tweaked a bit.

Either the Sapphire 5850 Xtreme, 460 1Gb or 6850 1Gb in which I'll need suggestions for the cooler brand.
There is no one like you in the universe.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 29 2011 23:04 GMT
#4847
@Blisse

You can see the temperatures, noise, etc of the Sapphire 5850 Xtreme in this review: http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/zardon/sapphire-hd5830-hd5850-xtreme-edition-review-crossfirex/16/

It's definitely a very good deal for $135.
Brettatron
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada159 Posts
April 29 2011 23:06 GMT
#4848
@sKyR

Thanks. What would the shipping costs be from say NCIX? The reason I wanted to go with memory express is they'll put it all together for you for $40 and then I can just pick it up from the store. Would it be a better choice to go with NCIX though?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-29 23:16:55
April 29 2011 23:12 GMT
#4849
NCIX does assembly for $50. Shipping cost on everything should be no more than $30 (keep in mind that this does not include shipping insurance which is 1.5% of your total iirc). Some items will come with free ground shipping for your entire order.

NCIX prices are much better than MemoryExpress's and they also offer pricematching.

You could save roughly $50 on the components (probably more like $100 actually) if you went with NCIX.
Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
April 29 2011 23:12 GMT
#4850
On April 30 2011 08:04 skyR wrote:
@Blisse

You can see the temperatures, noise, etc of the Sapphire 5850 Xtreme in this review: http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/zardon/sapphire-hd5830-hd5850-xtreme-edition-review-crossfirex/16/

It's definitely a very good deal for $135.


Thanks, I don't know how I didn't come across that link when I was searching. I'll give it a try.
There is no one like you in the universe.
Brettatron
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada159 Posts
April 29 2011 23:16 GMT
#4851
Ok, so lets say I changed my mind and am considering using NCIX now. Would you still recommend the P67 mobo over the H67 I had?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 29 2011 23:23 GMT
#4852
No, if you are purchasing from NCIX. I'd change the case, power supply, and motherboard.

Instead of a Coolermaster 690ii Basic, you could get a Coolermaster HAF 912 for $50: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=55583&promoid=1097 But you could also stick with the Coolermaster 690ii Basic by pricematching to $70.

The Antec Neo 450w for $35 is a very good deal and is capable of powering your configuration: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=60491&promoid=1097

If you don't care about SATA3 or USB3, you could get a Gigabyte H61M-D2P or D2 for $77: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=59565

If you want SATA3 or USB3, you can get a Asrock H67M for $100: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=59672 (pricematch with http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?item_id=037627 )

When you factor in the lower pricing on processor, RAM, and HDD, it is roughly $150 or more in savings.
Brettatron
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada159 Posts
April 29 2011 23:38 GMT
#4853
So by using NCIX this would be my setup, yeah?

Intel Core™ i5-2400 Processor, 3.10GHz
ASRock H67M B3
Kingston ValueRAM 4GB PC3-10600 DDR3 Dual Channel Kit (2 x 2GB)
Western Digital 500GB Caviar Black 7200rpm SATA III w/ 32MB Cache
eVGA GeForce GTX 560 Ti FPB 1GB GDDR5 PCI-E
Coolermaster HAF 912
Antec Neo 450w

skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 29 2011 23:47 GMT
#4854
You would also switch out the memory for Mushkin at $43: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=55546&promoid=1097

The EVGA GTX 560 at MemoryExpress is at $260 so you would also switch this out for a MSI GTX 560 Twin Frozr @ $238 (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=12980BD8066 ): http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=58303&promoid=1097

If you want to factor in mail in rebates, you could remain with the EVGA GTX 560 and pricematch it down to $245 using: http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11610BD1412 so it would become $215 after the $30 mail in rebate.

You're also missing a DVD drive, not sure if you didn't bother to list it, don't need one, or simply forgot.
Brettatron
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada159 Posts
April 30 2011 00:01 GMT
#4855
I'm just reusing the one I currently have. But thank you for those suggestions.
Mobius_1
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2763 Posts
April 30 2011 01:17 GMT
#4856
Awesome thread, a few website suggestions for UK readers: bit-tech.net is your typical review site with a useful UK focus, and scan.co.uk is the best place to buy parts from in my experience.
Starleague Forever. RIP KT Violet~
Zezima
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4 Posts
April 30 2011 01:22 GMT
#4857
Hello!!!, I currently cannot afford much to build a nice computer. i have been playing sc for some time, and currently am still playing sc because my laptop cannot run sc2 T.T

My current budget is $600~700.
I know how to build desktops but is not well versed in which are the best parts to buy.
I do not know which parts are the best for their cost.
I am wondering if you guys can help me! select the best parts for the best cost!. THX TL community!
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 30 2011 01:30 GMT
#4858
@Zezima

Total comes to $695

Intel Core i5 2400 @ $190
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074

Asrock H61M US3S3 @ $80
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157236

Sapphire Radeon HD5850 Xtreme @ $140
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102932

GSkill 2x2GB 1333MHz @ $40
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231253

Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB @ $45
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136769

Antec Earthwatts 380D @ $40
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371033

Coolermaster Elite 330 @ $40
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119115

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 @ $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986

DVD Drive @ $20
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136238
Zezima
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4 Posts
April 30 2011 02:01 GMT
#4859
^ dang thats pro. + for you.
what about if i do not need an OS.
would everything be good, i mean great, just 100$ cheaper? or would the 100$ be better invested in something else? Thx You are the best
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-30 02:14:27
April 30 2011 02:14 GMT
#4860
You could (1) upgrade the GPU (probably not worth it since the HD 5850 is a great value at $140 and is powerful enough for current games, and it would be maybe a little much of a stretch on the Earthwatts 380D to get something much more powerful), (2) upgrade various things like RAM/PSU/Case and have money left over, (3) add an SSD, or (4) pocket the extra.

Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 - $60 ($50)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233

PSU: XFX Core 450W - $55 ($45)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207012

RAM: G.Skill 2 x 4GB DDR3 - $70 - but do you need the extra RAM? it's only $30 more though
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231416


SSD: OCZ Vertex 2 60GB - $110 ($95)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227550
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