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Gigabyte P67A-UD3 doesn't have UEFI, but I've seen one power on -> start loading Windows in like 5 seconds. I don't remember the exact time, but it wasn't noteworthy. I would just be sure to avoid the Asus P8P67 LE if you want to overclock based on this:
http://itshootout.com/r-353/asus-p8p67-le-motherboard-review/p/3/
OCZ StealthXStream II 500W is not bad at all. They skimp on cables in general in the SXS line--for example, the 500W version doesn't even come with two PCI-E power connectors. But the build quality and performance is good for something that cheap (but not particularly special in general). Apparently they are a decent improvement in reliability and specs over the original SXS, which were also manufactured by FSP (they're an OEM known for making things from bad to good). Keep in mind that it's not exactly a premium line or guaranteed to last a million years. What the other options?
I'd rather pay more for a better power supply than pay more for a motherboard with features I won't use. The Gigabyte P67A-UD3 or AsRock P67 Pro3 are known to overclock well enough and easily enough to reasonable levels like 4.6 GHz.
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Crucial C300 128GB was going for $200 earlier, but it's back to the normal price. Aside from the initial firmware issues near the launch, they seem to be doing fine. Currently the 320 series is overpriced at newegg. 80GB is supposed to be $159, with 120GB at $209. (for that matter, the Hyper 212+ at $35 is overpriced on newegg as well, almost to the point where I'd be looking at alternatives)
Here is the OEM Intel 320 80GB for $160 shipped (it just doesn't have a pretty box, SATA cable, drive bay adapter, etc., actual drive itself is the same):
http://www.buy.com/prod/intel-ssdsa2cw080g310-320-series-80gb-solid-state-drive-oem-box/q/loc/101/220601170.html
Note that you can natively install 2.5" drives like those SSDs in the HAF 912, so you don't need a drive bay adapter. I'd go with the above.
AsRock P67 Pro3 only comes with 2 SATA cables, so you'd need another though. You can find them about anywhere for cheap.
http://www.buy.com/prod/sata-serial-ata-data-transfer-cable-1-5-ft/q/loc/111/210742812.html
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The first one looks like the reference design with the reference cooling solution, though IIRC EVGA always uses reference design boards. (edit: though wait, the second card is shorter and thus doesn't use the reference PCB?) That blower design is fairly good at blowing most the heat down the length of the card under the shroud and out the vents and out of your case.
The second one has a fan a little left of center. Generally such a fan placed there is quieter than the reference blower design, but it will expel a lot of the heat back into the case in addition to some out the back of the case. If you have a reasonably well-ventilated case and do not plan on going SLI, this is probably the one you want if you care about noise over slightly heating up the rest of your computer.
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@SONE
The HD card has a displayport while the regular SC card does not.
The HD card also is smaller, has a center fan, and no vampor chamber.
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Hmm. Yeah I looked at both and immediately was reminded of the 460 when I saw the smaller card and fan placement, and then I looked at the longer one and it looked like the older versions of vgas.
I rock my cosmos S currently with my evga gtx 280 at 100% fan speed, and have 6 120mm a 200mm so noise isn't that big a deal for me. Is that the only difference? The stock cooling design and the ports?
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Canada839 Posts
@.@ well yeah. I mentioned i knew that earlier! Ahh decisions.
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@SkyR
I ran the set up you suggested by a friend of mine and this is what he said in regards to the PSU
"he'll need a better power supply as the minimum is 500w. Minimum 500W or greater system power supply (with a minimum 12V current rating of 30A."
Comments on this, SkyR D: ?
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Pretty much what I was thinking, time to put down the 280(no problems with it, still has lifetime but I feel like I just want more). I hate MIRs though, it's like a lottery if I get them back or not.
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@SolvusAnima
If your friend goes by the minimum recommended by the manufacturer. He is not very well-versed in computer hardware. The minimum recommended by manufacturers are a good margin above what is required to run the card because they have to take into account the generic low quality power supplies found in prebuilt Dells, HPs, etc and also take into consideration the billion of possible configurations.
An overclocked 2500k and GTX 560 will be around 300w or less on a gaming load.
You can see power consumption of the 2500k here: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core-i5-2500-2400-2300_10.html#sect0 and the gtx 560 here: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/geforce-gtx-560-ti_4.html
If he also looked at the power supply I recommended. It provides 34a on the 12v rails.
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On May 01 2011 03:33 SolvusAnima wrote:@SkyR I ran the set up you suggested by a friend of mine and this is what he said in regards to the PSU "he'll need a better power supply as the minimum is 500w. Minimum 500W or greater system power supply (with a minimum 12V current rating of 30A." Comments on this, SkyR D 
SkyR knows his poop. Your friend is probably using a bad PSU calculator that overestimates what you need to get you to pay more, like the newegg one. If you're unsure, plug the setup into here and check for yourself. A lot of people assume you need a higher overhead for degradation than you really do, as well.
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@SkyR
Thanks very much. My friend feels quite embarrassed after I told him what you said and will comment no further xD. Also, thank you very much for your suggestions.
@Myrmidon
Thank you for your comments as well! I didn't realize that some of those were directed at me, so I nearly overlooked them.
@JingleHell
Yeah, it really seems like SkyR really knows what he's talking about ^^. Never doubt TeamLiquid!!
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Hi everyone!
I posted a while back (Page 234) about getting my brother a new graphics card, and I settled on this:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131360
However, we got it, and it **just** barely doesn't fit!
I'm guessing since that it's an HP pre-built computer, they didn't account for leaving enough room for a graphics card? The issue is the length of the card, not the height =\
Any suggestions TL? Would a picture of the computer's innards with the card for reference help? Could I find a work-around, or should I go for an RMA?
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It didn't fit? By how much? Could you post some pictures? Now I'm curious of the case dimensions.
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Hard to imagine that stupid HP not leave enough room for one of the shortest cards available. Are you sure that there is nothing removable such as a drive bay or air duct?
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Here, showing the mobo flush against the side of the case..
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And here, showing the card trying to be in the case =[
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Another concern is that is seems that even if it did fit length-wise, the bracket would prevent me from fully connecting the card. Frankly, I'm hoping that you can tell me I'm trying to connect it incorrectly, since this is my first time 
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