EPTedit: btw, I hope you're lining up the gold pins to go into the slot and not the plastic clip at the front >.>
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
edit: btw, I hope you're lining up the gold pins to go into the slot and not the plastic clip at the front >.> | ||
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Malikari
Canada45 Posts
 I was lining up the pins correctly, but I totally missed the screws on the bracket, thinking it was irremovable :D With the bracket removed, yes, it does fit XD Thanks! EDIT: <_> NOW I feel foolish. Didn't realize that the metal stripes on the side of the computer could be removed, i.e. addon slots Bracket doesn't need to be removed at all, blergh  Mission accomplished ^_^ | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On May 01 2011 05:48 Malikari wrote: Durr, I feel foolish I was lining up the pins correctly, but I totally missed the screws on the bracket, thinking it was irremovable :D With the bracket removed, yes, it does fit XD Thanks! EDIT: <_> NOW I feel foolish. Didn't realize that the metal stripes on the side of the computer could be removed, i.e. addon slots Bracket doesn't need to be removed at all, blergh Mission accomplished ^_^ Next time, google or a computer store might be your friend. Please tell me you're using safety goggles with those sharp screwdrivers at least? | ||
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Malikari
Canada45 Posts
On May 01 2011 06:03 JingleHell wrote: Next time, google or a computer store might be your friend. Please tell me you're using safety goggles with those sharp screwdrivers at least? Google ended up being my friend.Only one screw  | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On May 01 2011 06:10 Malikari wrote: Google ended up being my friend.Only one screw Not trying to be mean, but seriously, you might want to do a bit more homework on process first next time you decide to install components yourself. If you pulled a stunt like that with a lot of internals, you'd be buying new new ones, since it's hard to convince the manufacturer to RMA a part that was blatantly damaged by user error. | ||
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GrundlePinch
United States29 Posts
On April 28 2011 01:02 GrundlePinch wrote: Hello again! After many hours on these forums, other sites and Newegg I think I have finally decided upon a build. This will be the first computer I have made and am open to any other suggestions. CPU Intel Core i5-2500 Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor $210 @Newegg GPU SAPPHIRE 100314SR Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity $210 @Newegg Mobo ASRock H61M/U3S3 LGA 1155 Intel H61 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard $80 @Newegg PSU XFX Core Edition PRO450W (P1-450S-XXB9) 450W ATX12V 2.2 & ESP12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply $55 @Newegg RAM G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-8GBRL $85 @Newegg Case COOLER MASTER HAF 912 RC-912-KKN1 Black SECC/ ABS Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case $60 @Newegg HDD Western Digital Caviar Black WD5002AALX 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive $60 @Newegg Add a standard DVD drive and it totals up to $780.92 before rebates, shipping and tax I already have Windows 7 install discs. I was just hoping someone would be able to confirm that all of these parts are compatable. Also I wouldn't mind spending some more (~$100) if it would mean a significant boost in performance. I hope to play games at max setting while also streaming and do not plan on over-clocking. My main concerns are: -Mobo not being adequate -PSU being insufficent -Graphics card not fitting in case Thanks in advance guys!!! Hello again everybody, you may remember me from page 237. Well after things going out of stock before I could buy them and different options arising I have re-made my list and am again, asking for your input. I want to say again how much of a help you guys have been and that it is GREATLY appreciated. OK, here is the list. CPU Intel Core i5-2400 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz (3.4GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor @Newegg $190 Mobo ASUS P8H67-M LX (REV 3.0) LGA 1155 Intel H67 SATA 6Gb/s Micro ATX Intel Motherboard @Newegg $89 -$23 for combo GPU SAPPHIRE 100314SR Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity @Newegg $210 PSU OCZ Fatal1ty OCZ550FTY 550W ATX12V v2.2 / EPS12V SLI Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply @Newegg $60 ($50 if rebate goes through) HDD SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive @Newegg $55 RAM G.SKILL Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBSR@Newegg $60 (Bought these when they were on sale) Case COOLER MASTER HAF 912 RC-912-KKN1 Black SECC/ ABS Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case @Newegg $60 Random DVD Drive $21 Total ~$725 So my main concerns this time -Motherboard and RAM/GPU is not compatable. (With the knowledge I obtained from this thread I have come to the coclusion that it will work but wanted more knowledgeable input. -PSU is cheap -I had THIS motherboard in my earlier build and I wanted to know how it compared to the one in my current build. Thanks, as always, and I hope this will be the last time I post asking for help. (If this keeps up I may become one of the people giving help) | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
On May 01 2011 22:58 GrundlePinch wrote: So my main concerns this time -Motherboard and RAM/GPU is not compatable. (With the knowledge I obtained from this thread I have come to the coclusion that it will work but wanted more knowledgeable input. -PSU is cheap -I had THIS motherboard in my earlier build and I wanted to know how it compared to the one in my current build. Thanks, as always, and I hope this will be the last time I post asking for help. (If this keeps up I may become one of the people giving help) -Everything is compatible -PSU isn't bad, but there are better ones: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371035 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207013 -You linked to the HAF912 instead of a motherboard. | ||
Womwomwom
5930 Posts
-Motherboard and RAM/GPU is not compatable. (With the knowledge I obtained from this thread I have come to the coclusion that it will work but wanted more knowledgeable input. They will work so long none of the parts are dead on arrival. -PSU is cheap That PSU you selected is probably a shitty Sirtec design. I personally wouldn't bother with such a thing. Pick an Antec Earthwatts or XFX PSU instead since they're all generally very good for the price. -I had THIS motherboard in my earlier build and I wanted to know how it compared to the one in my current build. Your current motherboard is fine but this links to the HAF912 case. | ||
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GrundlePinch
United States29 Posts
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vGl-CoW
Belgium8305 Posts
I'm ordering a new computer through a Belgian website, where I have to pick the necessary components from a list and they assemble the system and ship it to me. I'm way out of the loop concerning hardware developments over the past years, so I based my picks mostly on FragKrag's awesome list and the local reviews on the site. I was hoping that some knowledgeable people here could review my list and see if everything matches up okay (no glaring overkills/bottlenecks/incompatible parts etc.). For reference, I just want a nice strong machine that will last me for a few years, not super concerned with my budget since I have some disposable income right now. Not looking to overclock or anything. Specs in spoilers: + Show Spoiler + CPU: AMD Phenom II X2 550 Black Edition 2x 3100 MHz, 2x 512 kB, 6144 kB, Callisto CPU Cooler: Scythe Samurai ZZ SCSMZ-2000 478, 754, 775, 939, 940, AM2, AM2+, 1366, 1156, AM, 7,2 - 31,07 dB(A), 11,4 - 94,4 m³/h Motherboard: MSI 770-C45 AMD AMD 770, ATX, 1x PCIe 2.0 x16, AM3 RAM: Corsair DIMM 4 GB DDR3-1333 4096 MB, CL9 9-9-24, PC3 10600 GPU: ASUS EAH6950 DCII/2DI4S AMD Radeon HD 6950, 2048 MB, 256 Bit, PCIe x16 v2.0 PSU: Corsair CMPSU-650HX 650 Watt, ATX12V 2.2, ATX 2.03, EPS, 9 x, 8 x HD: Seagate ST31500341AS 1,5 TB 1.500 GB, 8,5 / 32 / 7200, € 0,05*, Serial ATA/300 Controller: Dawicontrol DC-300e max 2 devices, RAID 0, 1, JBOD, PCIe x1, 300 MB/s Case: Antec Three Hundred ATX, µATX Thanks! | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
Edit: Oh, and 650w is probably more PSU than you need for that setup, go to http://www.antec.outervision.com/ once you set all your other parts in stone, and plug in the system specs, it will tell you what you need. (Or Myrmidon or SkyR might, since they know PSUs really well, I'd just hit up the calculator myself.) | ||
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Womwomwom
5930 Posts
On May 02 2011 00:00 GrundlePinch wrote: Whoops! here is the link i meant to post http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157236 I'd actually pick this board. Comes with USB3 which should be useful and its cheaper. Don't expect much from the blue USB3 ports since I have zero doubt that the controller on that is going to suck (100 per cent sure its not a NEC controller). ---- Calculating power supply requirements is not rocket science. If you simply look at the number of PCI plugs your GPU needs, you can easily estimate how much power you need for a basic system and some hard disks: Zero - 300w or under One - 400w Two - 500w Its even less dangerous to just assume these figures right now since Sandy Bridge processors are ridiculously efficient during both idle and load and most mid/upper-mid range GPUs aren't really all that power hungry. | ||
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GrundlePinch
United States29 Posts
I'd actually pick this board. Comes with USB3 which should be useful and its cheaper. Don't expect much from the blue USB3 ports since I have zero doubt that the controller on that is going to suck (100 per cent sure its not a NEC controller) . Hmm well I mainly chose the Asus one because of the combo deal which saved me ~$25. But looking at it now, I see that the Asus board does not have an HDMI input. I am planning on plugging this PC into a TV monitor but, my GPU has an HDMI plug. So can I just use that plug and be fine? | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On May 02 2011 00:35 GrundlePinch wrote: . Hmm well I mainly chose the Asus one because of the combo deal which saved me ~$25. But looking at it now, I see that the Asus board does not have an HDMI input. I am planning on plugging this PC into a TV monitor but, my GPU has an HDMI plug. So can I just use that plug and be fine? Video outs on the mobo are for integrated graphics, if you're using a GPU you plug into the GPU. | ||
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SpiffD
Denmark1264 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
The heatsink is not necessary unless you want to be overclocking. Retail processors include their own heatsink which is adequate for the reference speeds. It's a bad idea to be purchasing an AMD processor right now unless your budget does not allow for Intel processors. It would be much better to get a better Intel processors and step down in the graphics card department. Here's two reviews that show you how dominant Intel processors are in gaming performance (other tasks as well): + Show Spoiler + It's also a better idea to purchase a quad core in today's age if you want a strong computer. With that said, you will want to get a Core i5 2400 and a H61 motherboard (recommended: Asrock H61 U3S3); A 650w power supply is not necessary. A 500w unit would be perfectly capable of running your system. The Core i5 2400 under full load uses around 60w + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/cpu/core-i5-2500-2400-2300/table5.png) This is for the 6950 1GB variant but the 2GB variant should not be that far off: ![[image loading]](http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/video/powercolor-hd6950-1gb/pc6950_plines.png) Also Corsair power supplies are usually overpriced in comparison to their competitors. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On May 02 2011 01:13 SpiffD wrote: If you want to overclock an i5/i7, is the memory speed an important factor? No. The frequency of memory has very little impact on performance, see here: http://techreport.com/articles.x/20377 All overclocking on Sandybridge is done through the multiplier. You can no longer overclock through increasing the base clock (well you can but it is severely limited and not recommended). | ||
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SpiffD
Denmark1264 Posts
On May 02 2011 01:24 skyR wrote: No. The frequency of memory has very little impact on performance, see here: http://techreport.com/articles.x/20377 All overclocking on Sandybridge is done through the multiplier. You can no longer overclock through increasing the base clock (well you can but it is severely limited and not recommended). Thank you | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
I would seriously reconsider the graphics card, since there's a HD 5850 available for $140. The HD 6870 is better, but keep in mind that between the 5xxx and 6xxx they changed the naming convention, so the HD 5850 is still better than the HD 6850. The difference between the HD 5850 and HD 6870 is small, as you see here, yet it's a lot cheaper: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/290?vs=295 Sapphire HD 5850 Xtreme - $140 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102932 For the power supply, OCZ Fatal1ty 550W is not that bad really, just kind of meh when you look at the internals and meh when you look at the performance. For a similar price, just grab the also-but-not-quite-as-much overkill and higher-quality XFX Core 450W for $55 also with rebate option: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207012 @vGl-CoW: edit: ninja'd by several minutes? I'm slow lol+ Show Spoiler + Indeed, the Phenom II X2 really sticks out. If you're not looking to overclock, get a Core i5-2400 and a H61 or H67 board as mentioned. You can drop the CPU cooler as well, since boxed CPUs at retail come with stock coolers that are enough if you're not overclocking. To confirm, the Corsair HX650 is super way overkill, and it's also a somewhat dated design (but a good one filled with high-quality parts) that tends to be overpriced as well. If your budget is healthy, there's no reason to get some low-end unit though. Something like XFX Core, Antec High Current Gamer, maybe Super Flower Amazon in a 450W to 520W variety would already be overkill. Realistically we're looking at around 300W max power draw for your computer. It's probably worth throwing an SSD in there as well, considering your budget. | ||
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vGl-CoW
Belgium8305 Posts
Here's my new list based on your recommendations, does this look okay to you guys? + Show Spoiler + CPU: Intel® Core™ i5-2400 4x 3100 MHz, 4x 256 kB, 6144 kB, Sandy Bridge Motherboard: ASRock H61M/U3S3 Intel® H61 Express, µATX, Onboard, 1x PCIe 2.0 x16, 1155 RAM: Corsair DIMM 4 GB DDR3-1333 4096 MB, CL9 9-9-24, PC3 10600 GPU: ASUS EAH6950 DCII/2DI4S AMD Radeon HD 6950, 2048 MB, 256 Bit, PCIe x16 v2.0 PSU: Corsair CMPSU-500CX 500 Watt, ATX 2.03, EPS, ATX12V 2.3, 5 x, 4 x (500 watt is still overkill from what you guys tell me, but they don't seem to have anything lower. Decided to stick with Corsair because this model has the same price as the other 500 watt PSUs by other manufacturers) HD: Seagate ST31500341AS 1,5 TB 1.500 GB, 8,5 / 32 / 7200, € 0,05*, Serial ATA/300 SSD: Intel® SSDSA2MJ080G2C1 80 GB, 250 / 70 MB/s I threw an Intel SSD in there based on your recommendations, but 80 GB seems like it might be too much if I'm just gonna use it to boot - however, the models with smaller storage capacity also seem to have lower reading/writing speeds, is this an issue? Would you switch the SSD for the Intel® 320series 2,5" SSD 40 GB, 270 / 45 MB/s? It's almost €70 cheaper.. Also, skyR, you recommended stepping down in the graphics card department, what would your suggestion be? | ||
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