EPTOn January 16 2013 09:45 iTzSnypah wrote:
What size of motherboard does your case support? ATX? mATX? mITX?
What size of motherboard does your case support? ATX? mATX? mITX?
ATX
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Essau
United States47 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On January 16 2013 12:48 Percutio wrote: If I only have DDR2 memory and plan on upgrading to a new motherboard will it work on DDR3 mobos? No. | ||
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MisterFred
United States2033 Posts
On January 15 2013 13:52 RiceAgainst wrote: Well, my brother is helping me with this rig. He wants, at the very least, play Witcher 2 on med/high, and I have Metro 2033 (med/high is okay for this game too). Other than these two games, SC2 is really the only game left (SWTOR and LoL/DotA2 don't seem too demanding and look playable on low-ish settings, and we don't know much about Elder Scrolls: Online yet). I think I like the i3 option the best; if I do get other games in the future, what type of games would be harder on the i3? Metro 2033 & Witcher 2 will both benefit from the a more powerful graphics card, I believe. It seems like going for an i3-3220 & a 7870 is probably the way to go. There's a 7870 with a good cooler on sale right now for $210 w/$15 rebate, btw. http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=75429&vpn=BX80637I33220&manufacture=Intel&promoid=1201 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202010 As for when a true quad-core is useful... well there's a few games. Guild Wars 2 shows some genuine benefit there, I believe. And the largest 64-player BF3 multiplayer maps. If you can afford the extra $60 for an i5-3470 instead of the i3, that would be beneficial. Enough of a benefit to justify a drop from a 7870 to a 7850? Probably not. Unless you're a Guild Wars 2 fanatic. Or wanted to stream. http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=72279&vpn=BX80637I53470&manufacture=Intel&promoid=1201 Cheapo mobo for the i3 or i5 I listed right now: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=74886&vpn=B75MA-E33&manufacture=MSI/MicroStar So I guess the bottom line is: If your budget for GPU+CPU+Mobo (and not bothering with a CPU cooler) is $455 or more, then go with the i5-3470 & the Sapphire 7870. If your budget for GPU+CPU+Mobo is $395-450, then go with the i3-3220 & the Sapphire 7870. If your budget for GPU+CPU+Mobo is $390 or less, you'll need to get the i3 + a GPU cheaper than a 7870. | ||
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MisterFred
United States2033 Posts
The output specs on the (broken) Toshiba power brick say "DC 19V 3.42A". Looking around I found an HP power brick that looks like it'll plug in correctly, but I don't know what it's from. Its output specs say "DC 19V 3.16A" So I guess my three questions are: 1)Theoretically, does the HP power brick have a chance of working despite the difference in amperage? 2) Is there a risk to the laptop if I just plug it in and try it? (I have not done so, because this is pretty darn far outside of my knowledge base) 3) Is there any information I didn't think to include that could help answer questions 1 or 2? Alternatively, I might ask newegg for a line of credit and grab a Samsung with an a8-4500m or a lenovo with an a6-4455m: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834131444 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834312242 but I'd rather not do that. I'd probably look to see how much a replacement power brick would cost for the Toshiba before making that decision. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
You're probably not regularly maxing out the laptop full CPU / GPU load too, anyway. Some laptops have some kind of sense pin to make sure that they are not being used with other adapters, but I think that's rare. In that case, it just wouldn't charge the battery or something like that, probably. Not that it would be harmful. It's more of a big deal that you're using an ancient adapter (assuming the HP one is also old) than that it's 5W under what the original part was. That said, power bricks are pretty cheap from various sources, say maybe $20-30. edit: I mean, I somewhat recently got like a 130W adapter new sub-$25 on ebay I think..."V" efficiency level (87%+ or so at mid-high loads), OEM by Delta (makers of Antec Earthwatts Green, High Current Pro, all sorts of OEM power supplies, etc.) But good lord, Intel GMA 945 lol. | ||
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MisterFred
United States2033 Posts
Anyway, thanks for the help. (Edit: And by thanks, I mean thanks a lot.) I plugged the laptop in, got the toshiba logo to flash for a bit. Now I just need to play with it and find out if it's already a lost cause or not. | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
What is your budget? Not a whole lot like 500-600 most likely. What is your resolution? Current Monitor is like 1280x1024, which is fine for me. What are you using it for? Mostly play games, and mostly league at that, i wouldnt mind being able to stream but its not really huge. What is your upgrade cycle? 2-3 years. When do you plan on building it? A couple of months. Do you plan on overclocking? No Do you need an Operating System? Yes Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? If its not needed then no Where are you buying your parts from? Probably Online. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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Essau
United States47 Posts
On January 16 2013 07:16 Essau wrote: Looking to upgrade my CPU, Ram, and an ATX Motherboard only. What is your budget? -- $475 What are you using it for? -- Streaming and gaming. What is your upgrade cycle? -- 2-4 years When do you plan on building it? -- As soon as possible. Do you plan on overclocking? -- Only if it would provide a significant boost in speed. Do you need an Operating System? -- No Where are you buying your parts from? -- I'm from the US and do NOT have a Microcenter near me. Thanks for the time for anyone who's suggesting parts for me  Just want to repost this as it was a page ago and only got one response. | ||
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iTzSnypah
United States1738 Posts
On January 16 2013 19:07 Essau wrote:+ Show Spoiler + On January 16 2013 07:16 Essau wrote: Looking to upgrade my CPU, Ram, and an ATX Motherboard only. What is your budget? -- $475 What are you using it for? -- Streaming and gaming. What is your upgrade cycle? -- 2-4 years When do you plan on building it? -- As soon as possible. Do you plan on overclocking? -- Only if it would provide a significant boost in speed. Do you need an Operating System? -- No Where are you buying your parts from? -- I'm from the US and do NOT have a Microcenter near me. Thanks for the time for anyone who's suggesting parts for me Just want to repost this as it was a page ago and only got one response. i5-3470 & ASRock Z77 Pro3 ATX $277.98 ($10MIR) http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1177226 Wintec 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3-1600 $34.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820161452 Total: $312.97 The motherboard is ~68AMIR, which places it among the cheapest ATX sized motherboards that support ivy bridge natively. Also all Z series ASRock boards feature "no-K OC", aka multi-core enhancement. | ||
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Rannasha
Netherlands2398 Posts
On January 16 2013 19:07 Essau wrote: Just want to repost this as it was a page ago and only got one response. CPU: i5 3570k (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504) - $230 Cooler: Coolermaster Hyper 212+ (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065) - $30 RAM: 2x4GB of basically any DDR3-1600 RAM with 1.5V operating voltage and CAS latency 9. Example: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820161452 - $35 MOBO: ASRock Z77 Pro3 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157297) - $90 Total: $385 (before mail-in-rebates and gift cards and such) This should give you a very solid setup that allows for some decent overclocking, which will benefit streaming performance. You can still vary some parts if you want. All parts were picked at Newegg, but you may be able to get better prices elsewhere. | ||
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Essau
United States47 Posts
^ If that's not within the realm of this thread then sorry  | ||
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iTzSnypah
United States1738 Posts
Proof: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/5AP5I.png) Now if I get off my ass I'll build it and then try to market it to case manufacturers. | ||
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pStar
996 Posts
Much easier to see the cheapest prices for the products you are buying.. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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Soupconner
United States37 Posts
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7620165&Sku=B69-0929&SRCCODE=LINKSHARE&cm_mmc_o=-ddCjC1bELltzywCjC-d2CjCdwwp&AffiliateID=lw9MynSeamY-RbBmH16_cUYD58X8PjvCqA And toss in a http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=MSI-7750_2&c=CJ Is a 2gb 7750 better than a 1gb 7850? How should I chose between them? | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
Regardless how much VRAM a 7750 has, it'll never be better than a 7850. And that power supply wouldn't support a 7850. If you're looking to add any graphics card to it, it's in your best interest to replace the shitty power supply. | ||
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Soupconner
United States37 Posts
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MisterFred
United States2033 Posts
On January 16 2013 23:05 Soupconner wrote: it's $180, 55 mir No, according to your link it's $255, with a $55 rebate. So $200 after the rebate. And what are you getting for your money? An old Phenom II x6, which is ok, but not all that great for gaming + some surplus parts mobo you wouldn't want to overclock with. Let's be generous and say $150 value. Some RAM. Let's be generous again and say $20 value. Some crap case. $25 value A bad power supply you'll need to replace to add a real video card (though a 7750 would likely work): $0 value Case fans of unknown quality, let's say $5 value. So you're getting roughly $200 value worth of stuff for... $200. That's no special deal. And you have to wait for a rebate to get that price, which sucks. And you can probably select better parts for $200, though there are a few people for whom the bundle isn't the worst idea, I suppose. As for the graphics card, $95 with a $10 rebate is pretty ordinary for a 7750. So there's no hot deal one should jump on. And for a gamer, the parts selection could be better. | ||
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Rumiko
United Kingdom17 Posts
I had my new rig carefully set up and started installing my OS onto a brand new Corsair Force Series 3 SSD 120GB. No problems. A restart happens and the pc won't switch on again. Nothing. Relevant specs: MOBO:ASUS MAXIMUS V GENE, Socket-1155 (MAXIMUS V GENE) PSU: XFX ProSeries XXX Edition 850W PSU (P1-850X-XXB9) CPU: Intel i7-3770k (BX80637I73770K) RAM: 2x4GB 1866 Kingston HyperX (KHX1866C11D3P1K2/8G) GFX: Gigabyte ATI Radeon HD 7870 (GV-R787OC-2GD) This is what I have tried so far: Test 1: Plugged out all but mobo 24 pin and 8pin. No reaction. When I pull out the 8pin and try again, I get the infinite reboot cycle. Test 2: Tried with my old 460w PSU without results(4pin in the 8pin) Using the new PSU in the old PC works. Test 3: Took everything apart and had a closer look at the mobo. This is from the same corner as the 8pin. http://i.imgur.com/JmZb7.jpg - Is this pic enough to straight out say that my mobo is defect? | ||
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