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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Scorevath
Profile Joined May 2011
United States43 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-24 23:37:15
July 24 2012 23:27 GMT
#23581
Quick Question. Microcenter is currently running a special on some Intel processors. Specifically the i5 3570k ($190), i5 2500k ($170), i7 2700k ($280), and the i7 3820 ($230).

I'm particularly interested in the i5 3570k and the i7 3820. I was initially looking at building a low cost streaming computer. In my initial build I was using the i5 3570k so I could skip a GPU since I'll only be running the game on low settings. Is the extra processing power I would get out of the i7 3820 a worthwhile investment keeping in mind that it will require me to buy a graphics card as well?

To my knowledge, one advantage of the 3570k is that it can be overclocked but I was not planning on utilizing this so I feel like I'm paying for something I don't necessarily need. All things considered I think the 3570k is still my best bet b/c I don't have to buy a GPU but I was curious what you guys thought about the extra computing power that the 3820 provides.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-25 00:30:49
July 25 2012 00:29 GMT
#23582
Aren't those pretty much permanent prices at Micro Center?

i7-3820 should be out of consideration, since i7-2700k is $280 and actually i7-3770k is $290, and the i7-3770k is a little faster than the i7-3820. You do realize that motherboards that support the i7-3820 cost about $100 more than motherboards that support the others? It's not just integrated graphics you miss out on.

I would just get the i5-3570k though. It's slightly faster than the other i5s, even without overclocking, and it has the best integrated graphics out of all of them (same as on i7-3770k), by a decent margin. If you're on a lower budget, some $100 extra just for hyperthreading—what the i7s have over the i5s—isn't worth it.
rogch
Profile Joined May 2012
3 Posts
July 25 2012 00:47 GMT
#23583
Is this a good ssd?
Intel 330 Series Maple Crest SSDSC2CT120A3K5 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167121

Also, is it a good idea to overclock GPUs?

Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
July 25 2012 00:51 GMT
#23584
Yes, and usually yes if you want more framerates
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
Coniel123
Profile Joined July 2012
2 Posts
July 25 2012 05:12 GMT
#23585
i posted earlier and got a recommended build but i forgot to ask for a keyboard.
the build i was looking for was for gaming and so i would think i would want a gaming keyboard too, but i have looked around and some of the gaming keyboards have a lot of extra stuff that i dont think i would want (i guess theyre for hardcore gamers maybe) i just want a keyboard that is very dependable (and preferably has good led lights, because i like pretty colors) i have never ordered a keyboard before so im not sure what a good price range would be, i would just guess that over 70 would be excessive for my needs
Silky
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States260 Posts
July 25 2012 05:50 GMT
#23586
What is your budget?

$600

What is your resolution?

1920 X1080

What are you using it for?

I wish to stream sc2 on medium quality with approx. 60fps

What is your upgrade cycle?

about every 6 months

When do you plan on building it?

in 1 week

Do you plan on overclocking?

No

Do you need an Operating System?

No

Where are you buying your parts from?

Newegg preferably
Have a good life
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
July 25 2012 05:56 GMT
#23587
So only SC2? No other game at all?
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
Silky
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States260 Posts
July 25 2012 05:57 GMT
#23588
ya no other games
Have a good life
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-25 06:06:06
July 25 2012 06:04 GMT
#23589
K so as i told you in the other thread


BitFenix Merc Beta 39.99

500GB 7200rpm HDD 69.99

Random burner 17.00

Antec VP-450 37.99

2x2 GB ram 21.99

ASRock B75M-GL 59.99

i5-3450 199.99

HD7770109.99 with a 20$ MIR

total : 568.92

If you live near microcenter you can get the CPU for 50$ cheaper, then you could add an SSD

this one being a good deal intel 330 series, 120 gb for 99.99

which if you get the cpu reduction, and the ssd, would add to a total of 618.91 with a 20$ MIR
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-25 06:05:15
July 25 2012 06:05 GMT
#23590
fail
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
Silky
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States260 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-25 06:37:59
July 25 2012 06:12 GMT
#23591
Any decent builds? Please help!
Have a good life
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
July 25 2012 06:44 GMT
#23592
Didn't i just post? ..
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
Silky
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States260 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-25 06:49:42
July 25 2012 06:49 GMT
#23593
^^ wow i didnt see that you sure 450 w will work?
Have a good life
goFLiP
Profile Joined November 2010
Argentina39 Posts
July 25 2012 06:58 GMT
#23594
I have a Phenom II 920 (4 CPUs) ~ 2.8GHz and an Sapphire ATI Radeon HD 5770. I have around 250 dollars to make an upgrade in one of those parts. What should I upgrade and what should I buy?

My motherboard is this one: http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3141#ov and my resolution is 1680x1050

I kinda want to use it for gaming and some streaming. Basically I want the best I can get for that price.
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-25 07:04:24
July 25 2012 07:02 GMT
#23595
that build will consume like 150w, 200w MAX, at full load (and i say 200w, i don't even think it could go that high.... unless you have 53 hdd's)



and at goFLIP, where are you buying from?

If streaming is the only thing you want to do... a phenom 2 x6 might do it... but i mean it's almost a waste of money as it's not really an "upgrade" over a x4, and your gpu is fine

your best option would be going for an i5 with a new motherboard (even then, i'd be you on such a low budget i wouldn't change anything, except maybe buy an SSD if you don't have one)
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
Checkered
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia14 Posts
July 25 2012 08:40 GMT
#23596
I'm a hardware noob in a family of computer programmers about to get parts for my first self purchased computer. Plz help me out with some good advice!

What is your budget?

$2000au ($2050usd)

What is your resolution?

1920 X1080 but conceivably later 2560×1600 or multiple displays later on.

What are you using it for?

I want to record SC2 at the highest quality while playing it using a screen capture program. I also want to render/export/convert animations and very large video files with some speed.

What is your upgrade cycle?

Probably 2 years+, I want something great now that will last then

When do you plan on building it?

Within the next month.

Do you plan on overclocking?

Do I want to? I'm not sure? (once again, hardware noob) I imagine I won't have to if I buy good parts? I wouldn't classify my room as exceptionally well ventilated.

Do you need an Operating System?

No

Where are you buying your parts from?

http://www.pccasegear.com Seems to have good stuff. But I wouldn't know if it's overcharging or lacking parts as an average aussie retailer might. If it is, I'd be willing to import... though I don't know where from.

Additional!

I have a case, operating system, all the peripherals aswell as old power supplies. I know I'm gonna need a high end machine to be able to do what I want. But I'm particularly unsure as to

- How important it would be to get a new power supply
- How much ram I want for this work
- The importance of quality hdd's as opposed to putting money into the GPU or processor
- For video/animation editing, is a high end graphics card important? Or is it mostly just the processor's job?

This machine is gonna put me on a solid path to the career of my choice, but it's not being bought with money that I've earned (inheritance) so, $25 to the charity of your choice if I find your post really helpful! ^^ (With particular gratitude from a hardware noob)

Sorry for the long post! Ty in advance for any help!
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-25 09:00:50
July 25 2012 08:56 GMT
#23597
pccasegear is pretty good if you don't mind paying for shipping. The good thing about them is their range is very good compared to other Australian computer stores. You may end up paying $20-$50 more, which is basically pocket change. And frankly, I'd rather that cash goes to pccasegear than MSY.

- How important it would be to get a new power supply
- How much ram I want for this work
- The importance of quality hdd's as opposed to putting money into the GPU or processor
- For video/animation editing, is a high end graphics card important? Or is it mostly just the processor's job?


- No idea what PSU you have so can't answer that.
- Go with 8GB and see how that goes. If you need more, put two more sticks in. I doubt you will need more than 16GB.
- I/O speeds can be really important. Databases load quickly, file transfers are not slow, etc etc. It all depends on what you are doing. If you are doing virtualization, SSDs are worth their weight in gold.
- Not really. It can help in certain programs that can harness CUDA or OpenCL but you have to read about that yourself. For instance, I recently found out that stock AutoCAD, unlike 3dsmax, will do ray tracing (!!!) with pure CPU cores.
Checkered
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia14 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-25 11:40:20
July 25 2012 09:35 GMT
#23598
Thanks Wom!

Any PSU I have access to atm would be 3 years or older... I don't know if that's enough info to discount them for a new system though? I guess I can check out the parts after I have a list and see whether our psu's are worthy if people aren't sure whether they'd be ok for the current generation.
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-25 11:43:53
July 25 2012 11:43 GMT
#23599
What psu?

In most cases the PSU is to change anyways
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
Toothless`xelrae
Profile Joined November 2010
94 Posts
July 25 2012 14:43 GMT
#23600
Hi, I would just like to know if the asus p86h1 is a good motherboard for gaming. My friend told me its a good entry level motherboard. I also noticed that its usb 2.0 and not 3.0. Is that ok? Would you guys settle for this motherboard as an entry level one or should I get a better one? I will run on icore 2400.
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