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Wabbit
United States1028 Posts
Whether or not USB 2.0 is ok is up to you. Do you really need the speed of USB 3.0? I doubt it, since it sounds like you're on a budget. Anyway, most likely there isn't a good reason to get a "better" (more features that you might not use) motherboard. And if you don't give us your entire budget and planned build, you might end up with a poorly optimized configuration. | ||
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Toothless`xelrae
94 Posts
On July 26 2012 00:34 Wabbit wrote: Motherboard doesn't affect gaming or any performance in general (I'm excluding ability to overclock and other irrelevant things like that). If you run the same CPU and video card on a $50 board they will run exactly the same as they do on a $200 board. Whether or not USB 2.0 is ok is up to you. Do you really need the speed of USB 3.0? I doubt it, since it sounds like you're on a budget. Anyway, most likely there isn't a good reason to get a "better" (more features that you might not use) motherboard. And if you don't give us your entire budget and planned build, you might end up with a poorly optimized configuration. Thanks for the advice. I already posted my budget and planned build a few posts back. I was just not confident on getting the asus mobo since I have a small knowledge on building PCs. Thanks a ton! Edit: My screen resolution is 1920x1080 are these GPUs good for it? Powercolor hd 6850 Sapphire HD 5770 ASUS HD7770 Direct CU Gigabytle Radeon HD 6850 GB 256-bit SAPPHIRE HD 7770 GHz | ||
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Wabbit
United States1028 Posts
Get the HD 6850 for 1920x1080. I looked back a couple of pages and you still haven't answered what games you're primarily looking to play. Because if this isn't primarily a SC2 build and you can't afford the HD 6850, you're better off going down to an i3 2100/2120 in order to upgrade the video card to a HD 6850/GTX460 or HD 6870/GTX560 | ||
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MonkTheBong
Czech Republic84 Posts
On July 25 2012 03:06 MonkTheBong wrote: + Show Spoiler + Hi guys, I am looking to upgrade my PC to make playing games (Starcraft II,DotA2,trying out Blacklight Retribution) more enjoyable and to revisit some older games I wasn't quite able to enjoy as much as I'd like to (Just Cause 2,Crysis 2,DE:HR etc.) I'm pretty much decided on my build made using brain but I'd like someone lil' more tech savvy to take a look at it. What is your budget? Around $450. What is your resolution? 1680x1050 What are you using it for? Mostly gaming? Yep. What is your upgrade cycle? 2+ years. When do you plan on building it? Within 3-4 weeks. Do you plan on overclocking? Prob not,low budget. Do you need an Operating System? Nope.From what I gather to use the full use out of 4gigs of RAM I should get a 64bit Win7,correct? Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? No. Where are you buying your parts from? I use a page called Heureka.cz which pretty much pulls the prices from e-shops and calculates the cheapest way to get the parts. I don't need a monitor/kb/mouse etc. Right now I'm looking for a CPU,GPU,PSU,MB and RAM. This is what I have so far: CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 BE $115 GPU: Sapphire Radeon HD 6870 1GB DDR5, 11179-09-20G $186 PSU: Seasonic SS-500ET $54 MB: At first I was looking at the MSI 760GM-E51 $40 but I didn't find the Chipset AMD 760G in the recommended chipsets so I'm thinking about MSI 870A-G54 $52 RAM: Either Kingston DDR3 4GB 1333MHz CL9 (2x2GB) KVR1333D3N9K2/4G $27 or Kingston DDR3 8GB 1333MHz CL9 (2x4GB) KVR1333D3N9K2/8G $45 (should I pay $10 more for 1600MHz? Anyone?  | ||
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Toothless`xelrae
94 Posts
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Rachnar
France1526 Posts
can you buy from http://www2.hardwareversand.de/home.jsp ? | ||
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MonkTheBong
Czech Republic84 Posts
Nope,only Czech e-shops,mainly I'd like to know if my build will work fine though. | ||
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Snackysnacks
United States411 Posts
On July 26 2012 02:58 MonkTheBong wrote: Nope,only Czech e-shops,mainly I'd like to know if my build will work fine though. If I get the time I could post some benchmarks on a similar build except with a slightly worse gpu (460). Also don't pay the extra for the team speed. | ||
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MonkTheBong
Czech Republic84 Posts
On July 26 2012 04:51 Snackysnacks wrote: If I get the time I could post some benchmarks on a similar build except with a slightly worse gpu (460). Also don't pay the extra for the team speed. That would be pretty awesome Thanks | ||
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MaieVShadowsonG
United Kingdom43 Posts
my budget is about 900 euro What is your resolution? its for gaming machine and i would like 1080 :D What are you using it for? mostly gaming and some powerpoints etc What is your upgrade cycle? my upgrade cycle is about 5 to 6 years. i can change only gpu each or every 2nd year When do you plan on building it? in about 2 3 days i want to order it Do you plan on overclocking? nono thanks. i aint any imba cpu user. just gaming nothing more Do you need an Operating System? yes please Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? no thanks Where are you buying your parts from? hardwareversand i would like to add something. in 900 euros i need a monitor too | ||
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ThatGuy
Canada695 Posts
+ Show Spoiler [Important questions I have asked myself!] + What is your budget? $2,000 ceiling. I'm a cheapskate though, so optimally ~$1,000 range will do, give or take a couple hundred. What is your resolution? I'm used to pretty old resolutions so I don't mind adjusting to a new one. 1920x1200 I guess? What are you using it for? General purpose gaming, want to be able to run any game at a respectable (if not impressive!) quality. Will also be using it for game development/programming, which requires the use of engines, rendering, compiling, etc. Wouldn't mind streaming random stuff every now and then but not a priority. What is your upgrade cycle? This will be my first 'real' computer as I've used some awful machines in the past. So at this rate it's like 5 years or so. When do you plan on building it? Either within the next month, or within 3 months, depending how pay works out for new job. Do you plan on overclocking? No, I'm worried that I'm not vigilant enough to keep tabs on my computer's durability while overclocking it. I'd rather be conservative with this. Do you need an Operating System? Probably not, but if I do, I wouldn't count it towards the cost. Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? Nope. I do want to use 2 monitors though! (Only 1 for gaming, but 2 for everything else) Where are you buying your parts from? Anywhere online that has the best deals! I've been using ncix.com for reference on various parts, but I've been recommended a bunch of other sites for pricematch policies and what not. CPU: Intel Core i5 3450 Motherboard: ASRock H77 Pro 4-M mATX Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7850 (Was thinking about GeForce GTX 570, but it seems that the 7850 has very comparable performance and uses way less electricity) RAM: Corsair Vengeance 4GB (Will be getting 2 of these for 8GB. Does brand matter or can I get the cheapest 4GB sticks I can find?) Power Supply: Corsair TX750 V2 750W Case: Fractal Design Define R3 Black (Super sleek look! Also has noise cancelling which is a plus) SSD: OCZ Vertex 3 120GB 2.5IN SATA3 (Too much space? Also what's the different between SATA/SATA2/SATA3? Is it safe to get any version assuming they are all compatible with each other?) HDD: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM 64MB SATA Tallies up to around $1076.95. Is there anywhere I can cut corners? I don't know much about brands, hardware, or terminologies so I could maybe save a bit. Also, any red flags in terms of durability/longetivity, electricity usage, or air flow/heat prevention? Cheers! | ||
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Shauni
4077 Posts
On July 26 2012 06:52 ThatGuy wrote: Hello TL.net gurus! I will be investing in a computer relatively soon and would like some opinions and critique on the current configuration I've come up with so far! + Show Spoiler [Important questions I have asked myself!] + What is your budget? $2,000 ceiling. I'm a cheapskate though, so optimally ~$1,000 range will do, give or take a couple hundred. What is your resolution? I'm used to pretty old resolutions so I don't mind adjusting to a new one. 1920x1200 I guess? What are you using it for? General purpose gaming, want to be able to run any game at a respectable (if not impressive!) quality. Will also be using it for game development/programming, which requires the use of engines, rendering, compiling, etc. Wouldn't mind streaming random stuff every now and then but not a priority. What is your upgrade cycle? This will be my first 'real' computer as I've used some awful machines in the past. So at this rate it's like 5 years or so. When do you plan on building it? Either within the next month, or within 3 months, depending how pay works out for new job. Do you plan on overclocking? No, I'm worried that I'm not vigilant enough to keep tabs on my computer's durability while overclocking it. I'd rather be conservative with this. Do you need an Operating System? Probably not, but if I do, I wouldn't count it towards the cost. Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? Nope. I do want to use 2 monitors though! (Only 1 for gaming, but 2 for everything else) Where are you buying your parts from? Anywhere online that has the best deals! I've been using ncix.com for reference on various parts, but I've been recommended a bunch of other sites for pricematch policies and what not. CPU: Intel Core i5 3450 Motherboard: ASRock H77 Pro 4-M mATX Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7850 (Was thinking about GeForce GTX 570, but it seems that the 7850 has very comparable performance and uses way less electricity) RAM: Corsair Vengeance 4GB (Will be getting 2 of these for 8GB. Does brand matter or can I get the cheapest 4GB sticks I can find?) Power Supply: Corsair TX750 V2 750W Case: Fractal Design Define R3 Black (Super sleek look! Also has noise cancelling which is a plus) SSD: OCZ Vertex 3 120GB 2.5IN SATA3 (Too much space? Also what's the different between SATA/SATA2/SATA3? Is it safe to get any version assuming they are all compatible with each other?) HDD: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM 64MB SATA Tallies up to around $1076.95. Is there anywhere I can cut corners? I don't know much about brands, hardware, or terminologies so I could maybe save a bit. Also, any red flags in terms of durability/longetivity, electricity usage, or air flow/heat prevention? Cheers! Cut corners... Hmm. I'd cut down the PSU to something like Earthwatts 380w. That one you picked is seriously overkill. Also Vertex 4 / Agility 4 instead of Vertex 3 please. Newer, more reliable controller and faster. Not any real difference in price either. Maybe you could skip HDD, reuse an old one or get 256gb SSD? The prices on them are not realistic, please don't but HDD unless you really need the capacity. Could cut the case to something cheaper as well. But if you want it relatively silent and sturdy there aren't many decent cheaper options. Also consider the R4 revision is out. I'm also against vengeance and similar type of meaningless RAM. But as long as you don't plan on a CPU cooler in the future it probably won't bother you. | ||
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Wabbit
United States1028 Posts
Like this: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=55544&vpn=996770&manufacture=Mushkin Enhanced | ||
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ThatGuy
Canada695 Posts
On July 26 2012 07:24 Shauni wrote: Cut corners... Hmm. I'd cut down the PSU to something like Earthwatts 380w. That one you picked is seriously overkill. Also Vertex 4 / Agility 4 instead of Vertex 3 please. Newer, more reliable controller and faster. Not any real difference in price either. Maybe you could skip HDD, reuse an old one or get 256gb SSD? The prices on them are not realistic, please don't but HDD unless you really need the capacity. Could cut the case to something cheaper as well. But if you want it relatively silent and sturdy there aren't many decent cheaper options. Also consider the R4 revision is out. I'm also against vengeance and similar type of meaningless RAM. But as long as you don't plan on a CPU cooler in the future it probably won't bother you. I was told that the PSU is one of the main things I should not hold back on. I basically want one that won't kill my electricity bills but will have the juice to keep everything steady and undestroyed lol. If the Earthwatts 380w will get the job done then I'll have a good look at it .Will do for the Vertex 4! I definitely need some capacity. As I said I'll be doing some game development which will require a lot of space, and I like keeping a record of all my source assets (including art and audio). That being said, maybe I can go for a single 256 GB SSD and get a TB external hard drive or something. I heard that SSD have had problems in terms of reliability and lifespan, which is why I'm a bit hesitant on getting a large one; is it something I should be concerned with? R4 looks nice too so I'll probably go with that one, since the price seems to be the same anyway. The other cases I looked at just didn't look very nice IMO, they either had too many grills and windows everywhere or had a bunch of LED lights lighting the place up. EDIT: I can't find the R4 on any of the online retailers I know though (newegg, ncix, http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/ ... probably because it's so new!). On July 26 2012 07:28 Wabbit wrote: RAM is also way overpriced. Get the cheapest DDR3-1333 that runs at 1.5V. And get a 2x4GB kit, not two separate sticks. Thanks, will do ^_^. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
Earthwatts 380D will get the job done. There's no point in wasting $50+ more for a 750w unit when you aren't overclocking or doing SLI so the entire configuration will have an extreme hard time going past 200w. Earthwatts hardly goes on sale. You're probably looking at an Antec Neo Eco or w/e that goes on sale whenever you purchase. | ||
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Shauni
4077 Posts
On July 26 2012 08:07 ThatGuy wrote: I was told that the PSU is one of the main things I should not hold back on. I basically want one that won't kill my electricity bills but will have the juice to keep everything steady and undestroyed lol. If the Earthwatts 380w will get the job done then I'll have a good look at it .Will do for the Vertex 4! I definitely need some capacity. As I said I'll be doing some game development which will require a lot of space, and I like keeping a record of all my source assets (including art and audio). That being said, maybe I can go for a single 256 GB SSD and get a TB external hard drive or something. I heard that SSD have had problems in terms of reliability and lifespan, which is why I'm a bit hesitant on getting a large one; is it something I should be concerned with? R4 looks nice too so I'll probably go with that one, since the price seems to be the same anyway. The other cases I looked at just didn't look very nice IMO, they either had too many grills and windows everywhere or had a bunch of LED lights lighting the place up. EDIT: I can't find the R4 on any of the online retailers I know though (newegg, ncix, http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/ ... probably because it's so new!). Thanks, will do ^_^. EA380W will get the job done, it's a decent PSU. Maybe not so good priced there at ncix, like skyr said neo eco 450w might be a better option. Or something more middleground like Golden Green 450w/Capstone 450w (if you want gold efficiency). SSDs have a certain amount of write cycles, so larger drives last longer than smaller ones (so your concern is wrong, better buy a really big SSD if you are worried about lifespan). If you use it as some kind of server that does A LOT OF 4k writes without any sort of caching then yes, it can wear out faster than a HDD. Normally however, it will last much longer than an average HDD (about 10 years to an HDDs 5 in average). Ah, you are right about the R4. It'll come into stores within about 2 weeks from what I'm seeing. | ||
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eskashaborn
United States177 Posts
I don't need Starcraft 2 to run on the highest settings, I just want it to run comfortably on decent settings and really well on low settings .Budget $1000 Resolution I'm not precisely sure...but I was thinking this might be nice...It depends on the monitors I guess. This post suggests that 16 : 9 is the best aspect ratio though I don't know how HOTS will affect this. So for now I'm thinking: 1920 X 1080 Uses I plan to use it for gaming (SC2) and some random other stuff (most importantly gaming )Upgrade Cycle I don't plan to upgrade for several years to come. So a minimum cycle of two years. When I plan on building it within the next couple weeks -> so very soon Overclocking I don't plan on overclocking at present. Operating System yeah...I do. I was thinking windows 7. Second GPU Hmm...I don't know much about this, but I'd say no. Location I'm from Salt Lake City, Utah USA. Thanks in advance. And if you might have a monitor suggestion that's below $200 that would be helpful too! Thanks again. Sorry about all the edits -_- | ||
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NoSlack
United States112 Posts
What is your budget? $1200 US What is your resolution? 720p on a 19" monitor that he needs to purchase. What are you using it for? Gaming (BF3 on max settings 60 fps), Streaming What is your upgrade cycle? 2 years When do you plan on building it? ASAP Do you plan on overclocking? No Do you need an Operating System? Can get it from his school for $15 Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? No Where are you buying your parts from? Online US websites Thanks for the info! | ||
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Quaterno
United Kingdom69 Posts
Anyway here's the build, if anyone has some time to look over it I'd appreciate any opinions on value/additions/unnecessary components PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£256.46 @ Ebuyer) CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£26.65 @ Scan.co.uk) Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V LK ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£108.98 @ Dabs) Memory: Kingston 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory (£73.99 @ Dabs) Hard Drive: Intel 520 Series Cherryville 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£110.00 @ Ebuyer) Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card (£350.99 @ Dabs) Case: NZXT Tempest 410 ATX Mid Tower Case (£59.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk) Power Supply: Corsair 600W ATX12V Power Supply (£53.52 @ Ebuyer) Optical Drive: Sony BC5640H-03 Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer (£60.33 @ Amazon UK) Total: £1100.91 (Prices include shipping and discounts when available.) (Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-07-26 14:02 BST+0100) EDIT: Friend convinced me that SLI was a waste of money and to change the build | ||
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VoriuM
Belgium83 Posts
I'd love to hear your opinions on whether I should buy a new gpu and if yes, which would you recommend? I mainly play at 1920 x 1080. Thnx edit: a third option is to buy a really cheap gfx card (less than 50 euro) and go with that for a few weeks. Thought about using my i5 2500k gpu chip but my mobo doesnt have anything to connect my monitor to. | ||
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