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SLI 670's is indeed a waste of money if you're only gaming on a single monitor with at most 1900x1200. For 2560x1440 or triple monitor or 120Hz 1920x1080 it can be considered at least somewhat worth it, maybe even necessary if you demand the highest settings and smoothest gameplay in the most demanding titles.
I strongly suggest you get higher performance and much quieter CPU cooling: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HS-082-TR
High-speed RAM is a huge waste of money. You'll notice zero performance benefit compared to DDR3-1600 so just get a 2x4GB kit that runs @ 1.5V. The shorter the heatspreaders, the better.
PSU is mediocre in electrical performance, the fan is sleeve bearing, and it overall has absolutely no place in such a build. For a single 670 with overclocking and CPU overclocking, this is a much better choice: http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B004RJ8EKI/?tag=pcp0f-21 (it's also on eBuyer, I haven't searched around much: http://www.ebuyer.com/264380-xfx-550w-core-edition-pro-psu-p1-550s-ukb9)
You could leave the option of SLI open by getting a ~650-750W unit (depending on how much you really plan to overclock the CPU and 670's). That motherboard supports SLI.
Plextor M3S is 10 quid cheaper than the Intel 520, is just as fast, and also has a 5yr warranty: http://www.ebuyer.com/320834-plextor-128gb-ssd-slim-px-128m3
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The gtx 560 is better, the performance is similar to the 6870
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On July 27 2012 02:01 InfectedGoat wrote:
The gtx 560 is better, the performance is similar to the 6870
the thing is, I'm not familiar with Palit. Thats why im considering the other one.
edit: Any thoughts?
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On July 27 2012 00:41 Wabbit wrote:SLI 670's is indeed a waste of money if you're only gaming on a single monitor with at most 1900x1200. For 2560x1440 or triple monitor or 120Hz 1920x1080 it can be considered at least somewhat worth it, maybe even necessary if you demand the highest settings and smoothest gameplay in the most demanding titles. I strongly suggest you get higher performance and much quieter CPU cooling: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HS-082-TRHigh-speed RAM is a huge waste of money. You'll notice zero performance benefit compared to DDR3-1600 so just get a 2x4GB kit that runs @ 1.5V. The shorter the heatspreaders, the better. PSU is mediocre in electrical performance, the fan is sleeve bearing, and it overall has absolutely no place in such a build. For a single 670 with overclocking and CPU overclocking, this is a much better choice: http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B004RJ8EKI/?tag=pcp0f-21 (it's also on eBuyer, I haven't searched around much: http://www.ebuyer.com/264380-xfx-550w-core-edition-pro-psu-p1-550s-ukb9)You could leave the option of SLI open by getting a ~650-750W unit (depending on how much you really plan to overclock the CPU and 670's). That motherboard supports SLI. Plextor M3S is 10 quid cheaper than the Intel 520, is just as fast, and also has a 5yr warranty: http://www.ebuyer.com/320834-plextor-128gb-ssd-slim-px-128m3
Thanks for the advice, I made the changes that you suggested and changed stuff around a bit, let me know what you think (or anyone else who knows anything about this sort of thing). The main things that I am fairly clueless about are motherboards but, to me things look okay in this build.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£256.46 @ Ebuyer)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright HR-02 Macho CPU Cooler (£39.98 @ Overclockers)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V LK ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£108.98 @ Dabs)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£39.51 @ Amazon UK)
Hard Drive: Plextor PX-M3S Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£100.54 @ Ebuyer)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card (£350.99 @ Dabs)
Case: Antec Twelve Hundred V3 ATX Full Tower Case (£119.22 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: XFX 550W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£49.99 @ Amazon UK)
Optical Drive: Sony BC5640H-03 Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer (£60.33 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1126.00
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-07-26 18:19 BST+0100)
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It looks good but why did you change your case to an Antec 1200? Not only is it a mediocre case, it's an ATX full tower. It's absolutely enormous and you do not need that kind of room for your build. You're not doing quad-SLI and/or water cooling (not that the 1200 would be a good case for that...)
Oh, and btw that Blu-ray drive probably doesn't come with the necessary software for playback of Blu-Ray movies (you can thank our corporate overlords for how much they charge for that). Also I'm not sure how easily (or if at all) you can install a slim drive.
This looks like a better idea, comes with software too apparently: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-SH-B123L-BSBP-Blu-ray-Software/dp/B003XIM3QK/ref=sr_1_3?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1343324079&sr=1-3
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Well cases is the other thing I'm unsure of, I have an antec 900 now (iirc) and I know their cases are nice. Also, I thought that the full towers were better in terms of airflow and space, I guess it's not necessary though, do you have any recommendations?
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Hi,
I've been tasked with building a PC for DJing for my work. I've been trying to put a list together, but it would be great if you guys suggest something since the last time I upgraded my own PC was years ago.
So no games (although running sc2 at work could be a plus lol), but I need to be able to play music (with a decent sound card) and videos, and I need it to be very stable. So far I was thinking about buying this + a video card/better sound card later:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1864495&csid=_61
Will there be enough power to support a better video/sound card?
I just need the tower, no OS needed. here is a run down:
Budget: $600 (the lower the better, prefer around 400, but not to sacrifice stability. Theres nothing like a PC freezing in the middle of a busy night)
Resolution: monitor supports 1920 by 1080, but that isnt important
Using for: playing music/videos inside the club (so need a video card that will be able to output to a "video hub")
Upgrade cycle: 2-3yrs
Plan on building it: asap
No OS
No 2nd GPU
No Overclocking
Preferred merchants: amazon, newegg, tigerdirect (US)
Additional requirements: at least 1tb HD (1.5tb preferred, faster hd to load videos is better). USB 3.0 preferred (use external HD alot)
Thank you for your time
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On July 27 2012 02:44 Quaterno wrote:
Well cases is the other thing I'm unsure of, I have an antec 900 now (iirc) and I know their cases are nice. Also, I thought that the full towers were better in terms of airflow and space, I guess it's not necessary though, do you have any recommendations?
Uhm, if you think an Antec 900 is nice, your mind will be blown when you buy a case that isn't a pile of shit.
And no, large amounts of dead space coupled with large amounts of fans actually doesn't miraculously make undirected, random airflow not shitty.
The only valid reason to use an Antec 900/1200 is for pure aesthetics. The cases have no features, mediocre cooling, and no fun gimmicks.
Trust me, I used one. It looked sick, but that was all it did.
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On July 27 2012 02:47 JingleHell wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2012 02:44 Quaterno wrote:
Well cases is the other thing I'm unsure of, I have an antec 900 now (iirc) and I know their cases are nice. Also, I thought that the full towers were better in terms of airflow and space, I guess it's not necessary though, do you have any recommendations? Uhm, if you think an Antec 900 is nice, your mind will be blown when you buy a case that isn't a pile of shit. And no, large amounts of dead space coupled with large amounts of fans actually doesn't miraculously make undirected, random airflow not shitty. The only valid reason to use an Antec 900/1200 is for pure aesthetics. The cases have no features, mediocre cooling, and no fun gimmicks. Trust me, I used one. It looked sick, but that was all it did.
lol okay, well do you have any suggestions then?
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On July 27 2012 02:51 Quaterno wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2012 02:47 JingleHell wrote:On July 27 2012 02:44 Quaterno wrote:
Well cases is the other thing I'm unsure of, I have an antec 900 now (iirc) and I know their cases are nice. Also, I thought that the full towers were better in terms of airflow and space, I guess it's not necessary though, do you have any recommendations? Uhm, if you think an Antec 900 is nice, your mind will be blown when you buy a case that isn't a pile of shit. And no, large amounts of dead space coupled with large amounts of fans actually doesn't miraculously make undirected, random airflow not shitty. The only valid reason to use an Antec 900/1200 is for pure aesthetics. The cases have no features, mediocre cooling, and no fun gimmicks. Trust me, I used one. It looked sick, but that was all it did. lol okay, well do you have any suggestions then?
Depends on what you prioritize in a case, but basically just pick something inside your budget that gets suggested here regularly? I mean, cases get argued to death, and aesthetics are kind of a personal preference.
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On July 27 2012 02:56 JingleHell wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2012 02:51 Quaterno wrote:On July 27 2012 02:47 JingleHell wrote:On July 27 2012 02:44 Quaterno wrote:
Well cases is the other thing I'm unsure of, I have an antec 900 now (iirc) and I know their cases are nice. Also, I thought that the full towers were better in terms of airflow and space, I guess it's not necessary though, do you have any recommendations? Uhm, if you think an Antec 900 is nice, your mind will be blown when you buy a case that isn't a pile of shit. And no, large amounts of dead space coupled with large amounts of fans actually doesn't miraculously make undirected, random airflow not shitty. The only valid reason to use an Antec 900/1200 is for pure aesthetics. The cases have no features, mediocre cooling, and no fun gimmicks. Trust me, I used one. It looked sick, but that was all it did. lol okay, well do you have any suggestions then? Depends on what you prioritize in a case, but basically just pick something inside your budget that gets suggested here regularly? I mean, cases get argued to death, and aesthetics are kind of a personal preference.
Well my PC is well under budget so basically everything is within budget, I just don't want to waste money making something look good. I guess my priority is function over form. Thanks for the input though, I'll look around 
EDIT: Leaning towards the Corsair 400R, any thoughts? http://www.scan.co.uk/products/corsair-carbide-series-400r-black-mid-tower-gaming-case-w-o-psu
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I just want to post some great prices that are going on atm.
For z77 chipset mobo that's great for overclocking, with a price that nobody even comes close to beating, even while not on sale
ASRock Extreme 4 z77 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157293
^ - I bought mine f or 130 with free shipping and the f ree 1 year warranty and that was a great deal. Having the f ree shipping and the free warranty for only $115 right now is just the nuts. I shopped around for a long time while putting together my new pc and that really is the deal to go for if you're looking for a z77 sweetspot w/ great overclocking capacity as well.
Now, for the even better deal on a processor - microcenter has available (in-store pick-up only, I believe) the i5-2500k new in box for $170. You'll have to pay tax in store, though. Just a reminder for those used to calculating prices without that due to online shipping
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0354589
This processor, at this price, is the unrivaled sweet spot. Seriously, I dare you to find something equal or comparable for under 200 even. Good luck! The price is ridiculous and everyone I share it with who is tech savvy says wow. I bought mine in store a few weeks ago as well, and can't believe that the deal is still going on. They must have worked a really good bulk deal with intel on this one.
It's 3.3ghz stock, and can overclock to at least 4.7-4.9 from benchmarks that I've seen. I've also read many m any reports of it being used in conjunction with the motherboard listed above and having stable 4.5 overclocks. Could it go higher? You do the research. I saw those numbers and knew that my setup had enough overclocking h eadroom for the degrees to which I'm comfortably pushing an OC. Btw, the 4.5 quote was for air cooling (w/ a good aftermarket cpu fan - anything at the level of evo / hyper evo and upwards.)
It's a sandy bridge cpu, which shouldn't matter at all for anyone shopping for these sweet spot deals. Though the board supports ivy bridge, it really seems like a negligible thing to have right now. But you google it up and find out for yourself. PCI-e 3.0 just seems useless right now. And this is coming from someone streaming 1080p @ 30 fps without having overclocked yet (using the parts listed here), and with a pretty mediocre vid card these days (nvidia gtx 260).
Lastly, some DDR3. Though this deal is closer to standard pricing (ddr3 in general is really cheap right now) it does have free shipping, heatsinks and is made by a multi-season sponsor for the GSL! It's G-Skill.
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231428
If you have any further questions around these matters, feel free to pm me - there's less chance i'll come back and keep in touch with replies.
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I think I came up with a better build then previous bundle i mentioned for a DJing PC:
Case: NZXT Source 210 Elite White Steel - $49.99 (for USB 3.0 ports upfront)
Mobo: ASRock H77M LGA 1155 Intel H77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard - $74.99
CPU: Intel Core i3-2120 - $124.99
GPU: EVGA GeForce GT 520 (Fermi) 1GB 64-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card - $50
PSU: CORSAIR Builder Series CX600 V2 600W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply - $64.99
RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) - $45.99
HD: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive - $89.99
DVDRW: LG DVD Burner Black SATA Model GH24NS90 - OEM - $16.99
24bit Sound Card: Creative Sound Blaster Audigy SE 7.1 - $25
Comes out to about $540
here's the complete list at newegg:
http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=19877152
Does it look compatable/ok? I'd like to cut the price down a bit, but not sure how without losing too much performance. Not sure if 600w PSU is too much, maybe I can save some money there. Also I'm assuming GT 520 will be just fine for video mixing/playback.
Also, just in case, my original PC building requests:
+ Show Spoiler +Budget: $600 (the lower the better, prefer around 400, but not to sacrifice stability. Theres nothing like a PC freezing in the middle of a busy night)
Resolution: monitor supports 1920 by 1080, but that isnt important
Using for: playing music/videos inside the club (so need a video card that will be able to output to a "video hub")
Upgrade cycle: 2-3yrs
Plan on building it: asap
No OS
No 2nd GPU
No Overclocking
Preferred merchants: amazon, newegg, tigerdirect (US)
Additional requirements: at least 1tb HD (1.5tb preferred, faster hd to load videos is better). USB 3.0 preferred (use external HD alot)
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Budget: $1200. If I don't spend all 1200, thats fine.
Resolution: Not sure, I have a broken syncmaster 204b I might replace a few capacitors on, i think it runs 1600x1200 max. I am open to buying a new monitor as well for 1080.
Using for: Gaming. I don't mind building a machine that is complete overkill if it means i can extend my upgrade cycle.
Upgrade Cycle: 2-5 years, depending on what games are released.
Plan to build: Immediately
Overclocking: Interested in hearing options, pros cons.
Operating System: don't have one atm
Second GPU: Unsure. Doubtful, unless a deal is too good to pass up.
Buying Parts from: Newegg(or anywhere online that ships to US), Frys electronics
Extra Details
I Live in arizona and my main concern is cooling. I don't know much about cases, heatsinks and cooling, but I would like a quiet, cold, powerful machine. I don't care about aesthetics if the cooling and performance are top tier.
This will be my first build from scratch. I have replaced ram/mobo/PSU and tinkered around inside before, but I'm still fairly new to the process and what to look for. I am in the process of looking for a new monitor, but I might use a syncmaster 204b if its an easy fix(soldering some new capacitors in)I greatly apprecaite anyone who reads this and takes the time to help out; I plan to do a lot of research over the next few days and really hone in on what I am looking for. Quick question: Is SSD mainly for bootup, and HHD for storing hte rest of it? Or should I go with an SSD for everything? 128/256GB ssd? I don't store movies/pictures, mainly just games. Thanks for any suggestions.
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http://www.msy.com.au/Parts/PARTS.pdf
I need the cheapest and most optimal PC made from parts from the above that can run all games with ease.
I would rather if it was $700 and below, please email me the rig to kzdanze@Hotmail.co.uk.
I do not have any information regarding building a PC rig!
I tried, but I'm not sure whether it will work, and if its missing components or whether everything is compatible.
But can someone please kindly make me a rig with strictly parts from the .pdf! I might tip 
Asus P8B75-M-LX motherboard $73
Seagate SATA3 1TB internal hd $88
1G GTX550 Asus gpu $119
Intel i5-3470 cpu $199
Thermaltake SpaceCraft VF-I USB3.0 case/psu $105
Ext. USB DVDRW Slim Samsung dvd $29
8G Single 1333 Patriot Gamer2 ram $55
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So basically I want to build my own gaming computer but I have no idea where to start. If anyone could link me a basic build or a good online guide that could tell me the basics of how to build my own computer I would appreciate it.
This is what I was thinking:
What is your budget?
$1,000 or less
What is your resolution?
pref 1920x1080 if I can
What are you using it for?
WoW, SC2, LoL
I play them all on the lowest settings
What is your upgrade cycle?
2+ years
When do you plan on building it?
As soon as I figure out wth I am doing
Do you plan on overclocking?
No
Do you need an Operating System?
No
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No
Where are you buying your parts from?
Fry's/Online
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Hey, I'm looking to build a cheap, small form factor, quiet Linux web server machine. Here's the build I currently have:
Intel G530
Foxconn H67S
2x4GB 1333 Ram GSkill
Antec ISK 110
whichever 60/64 GB SSD goes on sale
Is the 90W PSU enough to power this build? Also, what kind of cooling solution should I look at since the form factor is so small (and I prefer as quiet as possible, or fanless)?
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There are TONS of good cases to choose from. Here's a list:
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Sound Dampened: Fractal Design Define R3 or R4 (or Define XL, but it's too damn big for you...), Corsair 550D, Antec P280, SilverStone Fortress FT02
Other:
Antec: 1100
Bitfenix: Shinobi
CoolerMaster: 690 II Advanced, HAF XM, Storm Enforcer
Corsair: 300R, 400R, 500R, 600T, 650D
Fractal Design: Arc Midi
InWin: Mana 134/136/137, Buc, Dragon Slayer (edit: for microATX builds only; you have ATX so not for u)
Lian Li (Lancool): PC-K9B, PC-K9WX, PC-9F
NZXT: Phantom 410
Silverstone: RV02-E (raven 2 evolution)
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Looks like the guys that used to help out in this thread have gone AFK  SkyR was my main helper a few months ago. Thanks to SkyR!
Please come back!
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