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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Rollin
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia1552 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-17 14:48:17
July 17 2012 14:43 GMT
#23401
On July 17 2012 18:33 paper wrote:
gpu -- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102987&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10440897&PID=3067296&SID= - 200$
mobo -- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138352&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10440897&PID=3067296&SID= - 100$

save 120$
y/n

On gpu: Nope, I'd get Wom's 7850 for a little more (like $40, $10 if rebate works, which you're including), it's significantly better.

The motherboard should be ok, as long as you aren't going balls to the wall with a ridiculous overclock. (and if you aren't overclocking at all, may as well stick with h77, can save some more $$$).
Throw off those chains of reason, and your prison disappears. | Check your posting frequency timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/mytlnet/post_activity_img.php
trainRiderJ
Profile Joined August 2010
United States615 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-17 22:11:28
July 17 2012 21:36 GMT
#23402
Building a new computer soon, any help or suggestions would be appreciated!

My info
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What is your budget?
$1200

What is your resolution?
1920x1080

What are you using it for?
Mostly gaming

What is your upgrade cycle?
Every 3-4 years

When do you plan on building it?
Within the next 30-45 days

Do you plan on overclocking?
No

Do you need an Operating System?
No

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No

Where are you buying your parts from?
Mostly Newegg, Fry's is an option for me


My build OBSOLETE new build below on this page
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-2600K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($269.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U9B SE2 37.9 CFM CPU Cooler ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($132.86 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Z Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory ($96.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($109.95 @ B&H)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 570 1.25GB Video Card ($259.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair 750W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($134.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1114.75
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
I already have the following and don't need to buy new stuff: keyboard, mouse, extra HDD storage, monitors, optical drive, OS
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
July 17 2012 21:44 GMT
#23403
HX750 is unnecessary. 650w is more than sufficient for an overclocked SLI GTX 570 2600k configuration.

Get a better CPU and GPU first before wasting money on higher frequency memory that does close to nil for gaming. Just get your standard 2x4gb 1600MHz cas9 for like $40.

Use money saved above to get a GTX 670 instead of a 570.

Might as well get a NH-D14?
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 17 2012 21:46 GMT
#23404
PSU, CPU cooler, -k CPU, and the motherboard are all ridiculously overkill for a non-OC, non-SLI build. The RAM is ridiculously overpriced, especially for a gaming only build. Just buy some set of 1.5v 1600Mhz Cas9 RAM for half that or less.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
July 17 2012 21:47 GMT
#23405
Oh right.. not overclocking -__-

Get rid of heatsink, 2600k, and Z77. Get H77 and a non-K CPU instead. And a 500w unit instead.
trainRiderJ
Profile Joined August 2010
United States615 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-17 21:51:50
July 17 2012 21:50 GMT
#23406
Thanks for the quick feedback! In that case I can use the power supply I have. I'll be back with a better parts list.

EDIT: I don't have a reason NOT to hit the $1200 budget mark, but is there no practical way to do that without OCing or going nuts with an SSD?
Ata
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada356 Posts
July 17 2012 21:51 GMT
#23407
Also, the 2600k might not be worth the 70$ more vs the 2500k for you if you are only interested in gaming.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/287?vs=288

JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 17 2012 21:55 GMT
#23408
On July 18 2012 06:50 trainRiderJ wrote:
Thanks for the quick feedback! In that case I can use the power supply I have. I'll be back with a better parts list.

EDIT: I don't have a reason NOT to hit the $1200 budget mark, but is there no practical way to do that without OCing or going nuts with an SSD?


Unless you want to waste money on features you've said you're not going to use, you won't hit the $1200 mark without doing something screwy, like buying tons more SSD or HDD space, or getting a hugely expensive gimmicky case, or buying features you've literally said you won't be using.
trainRiderJ
Profile Joined August 2010
United States615 Posts
July 17 2012 21:58 GMT
#23409
2600k is cheaper than or the same as 2600 it seems...
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 17 2012 21:59 GMT
#23410
On July 18 2012 06:58 trainRiderJ wrote:
2600k is cheaper than or the same as 2600 it seems...


Do you even need Hyperthreading for gaming? Generally not... as was mentioned, a 2500 will have identical performance in most games.
trainRiderJ
Profile Joined August 2010
United States615 Posts
July 17 2012 22:11 GMT
#23411
Updated build
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Rosewill RCX-Z90-CP 62.5 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($16.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($132.86 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($109.95 @ B&H)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($379.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $909.75
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)

This would let me keep the option open for OCing in the future if I change my mind. Is the graphics card too much overkill? I would like to not have to upgrade for a while (3-4 years).
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 17 2012 22:17 GMT
#23412
Whether the GPU is too much overkill is up to you. My crystal ball is a little cloudy right now, so I'm not sure how close you'll be to maxing BF4, let alone what you consider high enough settings, or unplayable framerate.
Wabbit
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1028 Posts
July 17 2012 22:19 GMT
#23413
No, the video card isn't overkill assuming you're not using it to drive some POS monitor. Even if it's 1920x1080, doesn't make sense to buy a $400 video card if the monitor can't even display stuff nicely, right?

Don't buy that shitty Rosewill cooler. You have the money so you might as well invest in something good and quiet like a HR-02: http://www.amazon.com/ThermalRight-HR-02-MACHO-Thermalright-Macho/dp/B005ERSN7G/ref=?ie=UTF8&m=A3D1M5ET5Z3YT6

Or all the way to a Thermalright Silver Arrow / Noctua NH-D14, though I highly doubt you have the guts to overclock that high. HR-02 is a good mid-range choice.

I would personally get a 3570K so that if you ever feel like doing SLI 670's you have PCI-e 3.0 bandwidth. Yes, it matters a bit. Might as well.

I'd also get a nicer case but the 912 works.

The answers to most of your Tech Support questions are in the OP. That's why you're not getting a reply. It's been answered before. Read the OP.
trainRiderJ
Profile Joined August 2010
United States615 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-17 22:27:33
July 17 2012 22:25 GMT
#23414
Well the other guy said my $60 cooler was overkill

For monitors I have two of these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236059

I'm thinking about upgrading the case to an Antec Nine Hundred

btw I wish I could buy you guys a beer or something, this has been a ton of help
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 17 2012 22:34 GMT
#23415
I said that cooler was overkill because you said originally no OC. You don't need an aftermarket cooler if you aren't OCing. If you are, or plan to, you should get a decent one.
trainRiderJ
Profile Joined August 2010
United States615 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-17 22:37:24
July 17 2012 22:37 GMT
#23416
On July 18 2012 07:34 JingleHell wrote:
I said that cooler was overkill because you said originally no OC. You don't need an aftermarket cooler if you aren't OCing. If you are, or plan to, you should get a decent one.

I think you guys have convinced me that I should at least keep the option open. Even if not OCing a good cooler can't hurt, right? The one I picked looks like it's designed to be quiet, which is a plus.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-17 22:44:21
July 17 2012 22:41 GMT
#23417
It's not going to be quiet when cooling a quad core desktop CPU, particularly not overclocked...

Also, some of your other picks don't make much sense if you value noise levels. How much do you care about noise?

(Antec 900 could easily be considered a downgrade from a CM HAF 912, though the 900's gotten a few feature upgrades over the years. Certainly the original 900 is much worse.)
Wabbit
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1028 Posts
July 17 2012 22:44 GMT
#23418
It makes no sense to pair a K CPU with a Z77 mobo if you're not going to overclock. And since you have the budget, why not leave that option open? It's easy as pie to get ~20-30% more CPU performance. And it's virtually a necessary thing if you ever add a 2nd 670 for SLI in the future. Those monitors are okay.

Antec 900 is not an upgrade, it's a gigantic piece of shiet.

If you want a nicer case, here's a few good ones. Note that some of these are ATX Full towers and are absolutely enormous. Mid-towers already have plenty of space, so you were warned.
Antec 1100
Corsair 300R, 400R, 500R, 600T, 650D
Bitfenix Shinobi
Cooler Master 690 II Advanced, HAF XM
Lian Li Lancool PC-K9B, PC-K9WX
Rosewill Thor V2
Fractal Design Arc Midi
Silverstone PS06B-W
NZXT Phantom 410

Or sound dampened cases:
Fractal Design Define R3
Antec P280
Corsair 550D
The answers to most of your Tech Support questions are in the OP. That's why you're not getting a reply. It's been answered before. Read the OP.
trainRiderJ
Profile Joined August 2010
United States615 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-17 22:49:13
July 17 2012 22:47 GMT
#23419
Final build (for now)
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U9B SE2 37.9 CFM CPU Cooler ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($132.86 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($109.95 @ B&H)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($379.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Antec Nine Hundred ATX Mid Tower Case ($94.98 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1017.75
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)

I'll think on this for a week or so. The price is well within what I was prepared for so I basically just don't want to buy anything stupid and I think you guys have helped me with that. We'll see if I decide to overclock, it will probably depend on what fps I get but I'm not expecting any issues with this build in the near future. Again, thanks A LOT everyone for all the advice, if you're ever in Dallas I owe you a beer or two.

EDIT: Is the Antec 900 really that bad? It gets pretty good reviews. I'll think about the cases some more tonight, thanks for that feedback.

At this point just assume I will overclock eventually, I've done a complete 180
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
July 17 2012 23:20 GMT
#23420
The original Antec 900 sucks. It has no backplate cutout, no tool-less features, no dust filters, traditional HDD mounting, and so on. Of course the case has gone through about half a dozen revisions over the past five years or so.
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