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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Mackem
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom470 Posts
July 18 2012 02:02 GMT
#23421
I'm a big fan of the Corsair 400R/500R.
Do you need a pole? I ask because your logical leaps are becoming logical vaults and your mental gymnastics are Olympic standard.
Konviction90
Profile Joined April 2011
United States3 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-19 00:12:47
July 18 2012 09:18 GMT
#23422
Looking to build my First Computer. Need some help on what I need. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated =)

What is your budget?
$1k - $1.3k. Would like to see what i can get for 1k first, then if can benefit alot more for a little extra, i'll do that.

What is your resolution?
1920x1080

What are you using it for?
Gaming on ultra to max settings (mostly sc2), streaming, and music production

What is your upgrade cycle?
3+ years

When do you plan on building it?
ASAP

Do you plan on overclocking?
No

Do you need an Operating System?
Currently using Vista. If highly recommended, i'll upgrade to Windows 7. If avoidable, No.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No

Where are you buying your parts from?
Fl, Usa. I prefer using Newegg, but don't mind using other sites

I'm not that computer savy, so i'd prefer buying a prebuilt comp. If building a comp would benefit me more for the buck, i'll go that direction. I'm also in need of a Gaming Mouse.

Appreciate it TL'ers <3
Keterian
Profile Joined May 2012
Germany2 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-18 13:53:54
July 18 2012 12:51 GMT
#23423
What is your budget?

700-850 €

What is your resolution?

1920x1080

What are you using it for?

Mostly gaming, maybe streaming in the future when my internet will be upgraded but I don't think so.

What is your upgrade cycle?

3-5 years

When do you plan on building it?

ASAP

Do you plan on overclocking?

Don't think so

Do you need an Operating System?

Yes

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

No

Where are you buying your parts from?

My favorite would be a prebuilt PC because I don't know anything anymore about computers or maybe i can order and let it built by a local computer store.



I reviewed prebuilt computers from Dell/Alienware, Alternate and such sites but everytime I look up the system in other forums they get bad testresults or reviews/comments. I will appreciate every help.

an example is the xp 8500
The system:
AMD Radeon™ HD 7570 1GB DDR5
1TB-SATA-Harddrive
8 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1600 MHz
Intel® Core™ i7-3770 (3.40GHz, 8MB) 3rd generation
Windows 7 home premium
for 850€
Is that a good deal ?
findingthelimit
Profile Joined May 2012
Hong Kong219 Posts
July 18 2012 15:30 GMT
#23424
On July 18 2012 21:51 Keterian wrote:
What is your budget?

700-850 €

What is your resolution?

1920x1080

What are you using it for?

Mostly gaming, maybe streaming in the future when my internet will be upgraded but I don't think so.

What is your upgrade cycle?

3-5 years

When do you plan on building it?

ASAP

Do you plan on overclocking?

Don't think so

Do you need an Operating System?

Yes

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

No

Where are you buying your parts from?

My favorite would be a prebuilt PC because I don't know anything anymore about computers or maybe i can order and let it built by a local computer store.



I reviewed prebuilt computers from Dell/Alienware, Alternate and such sites but everytime I look up the system in other forums they get bad testresults or reviews/comments. I will appreciate every help.

an example is the xp 8500
The system:
AMD Radeon™ HD 7570 1GB DDR5
1TB-SATA-Harddrive
8 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1600 MHz
Intel® Core™ i7-3770 (3.40GHz, 8MB) 3rd generation
Windows 7 home premium
for 850€
Is that a good deal ?


you dont need the i7-3770 unless you're streaming, but you said you might be streaming in the future, so i guess that's a decent investment. the graphics card is a piece of shit though... i think if you build the computer yourself, you could get the same system for approximately 700 us, which is 572 euros .

point is, that site rips you off and gives you stuff you dont need (i.e. graphics card is not good enough and CPU is a possible overkill)
Rhodes
Profile Joined July 2012
Canada1 Post
July 18 2012 19:18 GMT
#23425
On July 18 2012 07:47 trainRiderJ wrote:
Final build (for now)
+ Show Spoiler +

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U9B SE2 37.9 CFM CPU Cooler ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($132.86 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($109.95 @ B&H)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($379.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Antec Nine Hundred ATX Mid Tower Case ($94.98 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1017.75
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)

I'll think on this for a week or so. The price is well within what I was prepared for so I basically just don't want to buy anything stupid and I think you guys have helped me with that. We'll see if I decide to overclock, it will probably depend on what fps I get but I'm not expecting any issues with this build in the near future. Again, thanks A LOT everyone for all the advice, if you're ever in Dallas I owe you a beer or two.

EDIT: Is the Antec 900 really that bad? It gets pretty good reviews. I'll think about the cases some more tonight, thanks for that feedback.

At this point just assume I will overclock eventually, I've done a complete 180


I got a lot of good information on building my computer by following the discussion around trainriderJ's computer (previous page). But I have a couple questions (thank you teamliquid community!)

I'm wondering if the GTX 670 is really worth the extra money compared to the GTX 570.

I'm also wondering for a build like this one would you want to buy a 120Hz monitor?
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-18 20:14:29
July 18 2012 20:13 GMT
#23426
http://www2.hardwareversand.de/Intel/58305/HWV [G]amer Intel i5-3570K-A6850-8GB.article

this prebuilt would be a ton better, but doesn't come with OS, and can be OC'D

if you build yourself/don't oc, you could get the same for about 150 cheaper


and for a gtx 670 vs gtx 570, depends what games you play, fo a 120hz display, most definitly though
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-18 20:29:16
July 18 2012 20:24 GMT
#23427
On July 18 2012 21:51 Keterian wrote:
I reviewed prebuilt computers from Dell/Alienware, Alternate and such sites but everytime I look up the system in other forums they get bad testresults or reviews/comments. I will appreciate every help.

an example is the xp 8500
The system:
AMD Radeon™ HD 7570 1GB DDR5
1TB-SATA-Harddrive
8 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1600 MHz
Intel® Core™ i7-3770 (3.40GHz, 8MB) 3rd generation
Windows 7 home premium
for 850€
Is that a good deal ?


prebuilt ones are usually way overpriced and/or use bad mobos/psus etc. only an opton if you looking for a cheap pc that can run lowish games. the more high end it gets the more over the top are the prices.

i doubt a local store will put parts of other shops together. well they will but it usually costs a shitton.
imho you have 2 options:

1. go into a nice shop and let them make you an offer. and tell them exactly what you want. you willst still pay extra but you get exactly what you want and with a bit of haggling the assembly shouldnt be much.

2. order from a site that builds em for you. prices vary from 20-80€ (hardwareversand is cheap, alternate&mindfactory more expensive).
costs extra and most sites dont sent the pc with a heavy cpu coolers mounted(not an issue if you live near one of their retail shops). if the cooler thing isnt a problem for you its def the easier option.
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
ScottishFog
Profile Joined July 2012
1 Post
July 18 2012 20:53 GMT
#23428
Hi, I am basically an amateur when it comes to the more technical parts of a computer, and am currently trying to put together a new gaming set up. Since I've only ever used laptops in the past, I was hoping for a little help from anyone that's willing. I realise I have just signed up for the site, so if there is anything I need to do or post before I can ask for help, then please enlighten me!

-------------------------------
What is your budget?

Around £800-£900

What is your resolution?

Frankly, I am not entirely sure. I was planning on using my HDTV as a monitor, but if that isn't recommended then I would pay for a new monitor. I see 1920x1080 is the general one, so lets go with that. Any help with this one is appreciated.

What are you using it for?

Gaming and general use.

What is your upgrade cycle?

2+ years.

When do you plan on building it?

As soon as physically possible!

Do you plan on overclocking?

No.

Do you need an Operating System?

Yes.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

No.

Where are you buying your parts from?

Scan.co.uk

Any help is very much appreciated.
Grampz
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2147 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-18 20:57:47
July 18 2012 20:55 GMT
#23429
http://teksyndicate.com/videos/build-epic-650-pc-july-2012

What do you guys think of that build? The guy has a youtube "show" where he makes computer builds, just wanted to get some thoughts on what the public opinion in this thread is of him and his stuff

(personally I am not very impressed :D )
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 18 2012 20:59 GMT
#23430
On July 19 2012 05:55 Grampz wrote:
http://teksyndicate.com/videos/build-epic-650-pc-july-2012

What do you guys think of that build? The guy has a youtube "show" where he makes computer builds, just wanted to get some thoughts on what the public opinion in this thread is of him and his stuff

(personally I am not very impressed :D )


He's building on an AMD platform. Get that scrub out of here.
s1ege
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)123 Posts
July 18 2012 21:13 GMT
#23431
I have a GTX 560 non Ti version. Will that be able to run SC2 on 1920 x 1080? I only see 1920 x 1200 listed.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 18 2012 21:15 GMT
#23432
On July 19 2012 06:13 s1ege wrote:
I have a GTX 560 non Ti version. Will that be able to run SC2 on 1920 x 1080? I only see 1920 x 1200 listed.


Yes. Frequently, if a card will drive more pixels, it will perform similar or better on less pixels in the same game. In this case, similar, because it's not that much smaller a resolution.
trainRiderJ
Profile Joined August 2010
United States615 Posts
July 18 2012 22:09 GMT
#23433
Can someone click on this link and tell me what the price is? http://pcpartpicker.com/mr/ncixus/msi-video-card-n670gtxpm2d2gd5oc

It was $379, but I created an account to check out and now the price is $399. I want to know if it's a scam or if I was just really unlucky.
alQahira
Profile Joined June 2011
United States511 Posts
July 18 2012 22:37 GMT
#23434
It's $399 for me. Just unlucky I think.
Malgrif
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1095 Posts
July 18 2012 22:39 GMT
#23435
Hi, poor newbie university student here. I'm looking to budget build a new computer for around $500.

What is your budget?
As stated $500 before taxes will go up to $600 if the extra 100 helps a lot.

What is your resolution?
1920x1080 I can go lower if it helps performance

What are you using it for?
Playing recent games (<3yrs old) smoothly. I don't really care about graphics, but if it looks nice that's also a plus. Also obviously do general computing tasks, I'd also like to dual monitor the computer.

What is your upgrade cycle?
I don't have one. I'm hoping it'll last me at least 3years.

When do you plan on building it?
Mid August, before the new term starts in September.

Do you plan on overclocking?
Depends if it'll substantially add to the performance:price ratio.

Do you need an Operating System?
My school gives me Windows 7 Pro for free, so I am planning to take advantage of that offer.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
Not if one video card will perform better for the same cost of 2.

Where are you buying your parts from?
Anywhere that ships to Canada with reasonable shipping costs. NCIX, canada computer, newegg.ca comes to mind.

thanks! It's my first computer build and I thought it'd be a fun project to take on.
for there to be pro there has to be noob.
Bripster
Profile Joined July 2012
United States4 Posts
July 18 2012 23:11 GMT
#23436
I was just wondering if there was a certain time of year that is best to build a computer (to save money)? I'm hoping to build my first computer around the beginning of September, but I can wait if it'll save me money. Thanks!
You can quote me on that.
Carkis
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada302 Posts
July 18 2012 23:36 GMT
#23437
What is your budget?
$1k - $1.3k. Would like to see what i can get for 1k first, then if can benefit alot more for a little extra, i'll do that.

What is your resolution?
1920x1080

What are you using it for?
music production, sc2 ..high graphics

What is your upgrade cycle?

3+ years

When do you plan on building it?
ASAP

Do you plan on overclocking?
No

Do you need an Operating System?

yes, prefer windows 7 64bit

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No

Where are you buying your parts from?

Im from Canadda so maybe NCIX bu i dont know rly

Im not knowledgable on pc builds so im thinking of a dell premade.. but if the specs are a lot better ill do it
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-18 23:48:12
July 18 2012 23:47 GMT
#23438
On July 19 2012 07:39 Malgrif wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Hi, poor newbie university student here. I'm looking to budget build a new computer for around $500.

What is your budget?
As stated $500 before taxes will go up to $600 if the extra 100 helps a lot.

What is your resolution?
1920x1080 I can go lower if it helps performance

What are you using it for?
Playing recent games (<3yrs old) smoothly. I don't really care about graphics, but if it looks nice that's also a plus. Also obviously do general computing tasks, I'd also like to dual monitor the computer.

What is your upgrade cycle?
I don't have one. I'm hoping it'll last me at least 3years.

When do you plan on building it?
Mid August, before the new term starts in September.

Do you plan on overclocking?
Depends if it'll substantially add to the performance:price ratio.

Do you need an Operating System?
My school gives me Windows 7 Pro for free, so I am planning to take advantage of that offer.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
Not if one video card will perform better for the same cost of 2.

Where are you buying your parts from?
Anywhere that ships to Canada with reasonable shipping costs. NCIX, canada computer, newegg.ca comes to mind.

thanks! It's my first computer build and I thought it'd be a fun project to take on.


Pricing is going to change by mid august so come back than and ask for another recommendation as there isn't much wiggle room for a $500 build.

On July 19 2012 08:11 Bripster wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
I was just wondering if there was a certain time of year that is best to build a computer (to save money)? I'm hoping to build my first computer around the beginning of September, but I can wait if it'll save me money. Thanks!


Black Friday

On July 19 2012 08:36 Carkis wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
What is your budget?
$1k - $1.3k. Would like to see what i can get for 1k first, then if can benefit alot more for a little extra, i'll do that.

What is your resolution?
1920x1080

What are you using it for?
music production, sc2 ..high graphics

What is your upgrade cycle?

3+ years

When do you plan on building it?
ASAP

Do you plan on overclocking?
No

Do you need an Operating System?

yes, prefer windows 7 64bit

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No

Where are you buying your parts from?

Im from Canadda so maybe NCIX bu i dont know rly

Im not knowledgable on pc builds so im thinking of a dell premade.. but if the specs are a lot better ill do it


You can pay NCIX $50 to assemble it for you if you're not knowledgeable or brave enough to assemble it yourself. The new sale starts tonight so wait until than to be recommended a configuration.
Konviction90
Profile Joined April 2011
United States3 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-19 17:25:52
July 19 2012 00:13 GMT
#23439
Looking to build my First Computer. Need some help on what I need. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated =)

What is your budget?
$1k - $1.3k. Would like to see what i can get for 1k first, then if can benefit alot more for a little extra, i'll do that.

What is your resolution?
1920x1080

What are you using it for?
Gaming on ultra to max settings (mostly sc2), streaming, and music production

What is your upgrade cycle?
3+ years

When do you plan on building it?
ASAP

Do you plan on overclocking?
No

Do you need an Operating System?
Currently using Vista. If highly recommended, i'll upgrade to Windows 7. If avoidable, No.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No

Where are you buying your parts from?
Fl, Usa. I prefer using Newegg, but don't mind using other sites

I'm not that computer savy, so i'd prefer buying a prebuilt comp. If building a comp would benefit me more for the buck, i'll go that direction. I'm also in need of a Gaming Mouse.

Appreciate it TL'ers <3

skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
July 19 2012 16:46 GMT
#23440
On July 19 2012 09:13 Konviction90 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Looking to build my First Computer. Need some help on what I need. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated =)

What is your budget?
$1k - $1.3k. Would like to see what i can get for 1k first, then if can benefit alot more for a little extra, i'll do that.

What is your resolution?
1920x1080

What are you using it for?
Gaming on ultra to max settings (mostly sc2), streaming, and music production

What is your upgrade cycle?
3+ years

When do you plan on building it?
ASAP

Do you plan on overclocking?
No

Do you need an Operating System?
Currently using Vista. If highly recommended, i'll upgrade to Windows 7. If avoidable, No.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No

Where are you buying your parts from?
Fl, Usa. I prefer using Newegg, but don't mind using other sites

I'm not that computer savy, so i'd prefer buying a prebuilt comp. If building a comp would benefit me more for the buck, i'll go that direction. I'm also in need of a Gaming Mouse.

Appreciate it TL'ers <3

Friends Suggested Build. Any Suggestions?
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