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On July 15 2012 00:19 MtlGuitarist97 wrote:
Hmm ok, price is not really too limited (I would prefer to stay on the cheaper side of things), but if it will be a good upgrade, I'll pay for it.
For the CPU, I think I'm probably going to remove the fan and get a 212 to cool my processor. For the GPU, I'll just look up what other people have OC'd to safely and lower that by a bit and then just take it up from there. Thanks for the fast response.
A good starting point is to look at various factory OCs on the market, for GPU. Don't aim for the highest of them, but a medium to high one is usually stable for most people.
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On July 15 2012 00:36 JingleHell wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2012 00:19 MtlGuitarist97 wrote:
Hmm ok, price is not really too limited (I would prefer to stay on the cheaper side of things), but if it will be a good upgrade, I'll pay for it.
For the CPU, I think I'm probably going to remove the fan and get a 212 to cool my processor. For the GPU, I'll just look up what other people have OC'd to safely and lower that by a bit and then just take it up from there. Thanks for the fast response. A good starting point is to look at various factory OCs on the market, for GPU. Don't aim for the highest of them, but a medium to high one is usually stable for most people.
Hmm, ok. I think my GPU is slightly factory overclocked (like ~5% I believe), but I'll take a look at some other models of the 7870. Thanks for the input.
Edit: My GPU is @1050Mhz Core Clock and 1250 effective memory clock, but I've seen factory OCs @1100Mhz core clock. Do I have to alter the voltage to get the core clock slightly higher, or can I just alter that through CCC?
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Most people use MSI afterburner, which can also monitor temperatures and GPU usage.
Enthusiasts will recommend a lot of different tools, some are very specific (I only use cgminer or aoclbf since I want no interface). But generally speaking, MSI afterburner is the best beginners tool.
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On July 15 2012 02:01 Medrea wrote:
Most people use MSI afterburner, which can also monitor temperatures and GPU usage.
Enthusiasts will recommend a lot of different tools, some are very specific (I only use cgminer or aoclbf since I want no interface). But generally speaking, MSI afterburner is the best beginners tool.
I mix precision and E-Leet. Precision for standard use, E-Leet for serious bench runs when I do one.
To be fair though, they rolled some of the E-Leet GPU functionality into recent Precision releases, but I haven't really pushed anything recently, either.
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What is your budget?
Up to $1200
What is your resolution?
1920x1080
What are you using it for?
Gaming and Streaming
What is your upgrade cycle?
1-2 years
When do you plan on building it?
ASAP
Do you plan on overclocking?
Yes but not overkill
Do you need an Operating System?
No
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No
Where are you buying your parts from?
There's a local microcenter around my place but I like to also shop on Newegg.com
For streaming, my internet is sufficient enough to stream at 720p. I prefer to have a NVIDIA GPU and an Intel processor.
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What is your budget?
800€
What is your resolution?
1920x1080
What are you using it for?
Gaming, no streaming, no recording. Will play higher graphics games such as bf3 and crysis.
What is your upgrade cycle?
3 years
When do you plan on building it?
upcoming weeks
Do you plan on overclocking?
No
Do you need an Operating System?
No
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
Yes, I plan on adding a second GPU for SLI in the future.
Where are you buying your parts from?
http://www.pricerunner.com
Also: I would like an SSD harddrive.
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On July 15 2012 02:41 .kv wrote:+ Show Spoiler +What is your budget?
Up to $1200
What is your resolution?
1920x1080
What are you using it for?
Gaming and Streaming
What is your upgrade cycle?
1-2 years
When do you plan on building it?
ASAP
Do you plan on overclocking?
Yes but not overkill
Do you need an Operating System?
No
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No
Where are you buying your parts from?
There's a local microcenter around my place but I like to also shop on Newegg.com
For streaming, my internet is sufficient enough to stream at 720p. I prefer to have a NVIDIA GPU and an Intel processor.
CPU: Intel i5-3570K - $190 from Microcenter in-store
Motherboard: Asus Z77 Mobo - $120 after MIR (might be better choices, I'm not the best with mobos)
CPU Heatsink: Hyper 212+ - $20 after MIR
RAM: 8GB G.Skill - $44
HDD: 1TB Caviar Black - $120
Case: Corsair Carbide 400R - $83 after promo code EMCNCJH37 and MIR (could go with a cheaper one like Antec 300 if you prefer)
PSU: Antec Earthwatts 650W - $55 after promo code AntecEA65015 and MIR
GPU: EVGA GTX570 - $260 after MIR and a free magazine... whatever that is...
Thermal Paste: Arctic Silver 5 - $10
Total: $902, tax if applicable for your state, shipping (you should use the ShopRunner trial). Keep in mind the promo codes expire within a couple days.
Left you $300 for monitor, accessories, etc.
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On July 15 2012 03:22 JazzamaPlazz wrote:+ Show Spoiler +What is your budget? 800€ What is your resolution? 1920x1080 What are you using it for? Gaming, no streaming, no recording. Will play higher graphics games such as bf3 and crysis. What is your upgrade cycle? 3 years When do you plan on building it? upcoming weeks Do you plan on overclocking? No Do you need an Operating System? No Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? Yes, I plan on adding a second GPU for SLI in the future. Where are you buying your parts from? http://www.pricerunner.comAlso: I would like an SSD harddrive.
Making multiple accounts is not allowed on TL Xiniun...
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On July 15 2012 02:11 JingleHell wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2012 02:01 Medrea wrote:
Most people use MSI afterburner, which can also monitor temperatures and GPU usage.
Enthusiasts will recommend a lot of different tools, some are very specific (I only use cgminer or aoclbf since I want no interface). But generally speaking, MSI afterburner is the best beginners tool. I mix precision and E-Leet. Precision for standard use, E-Leet for serious bench runs when I do one. To be fair though, they rolled some of the E-Leet GPU functionality into recent Precision releases, but I haven't really pushed anything recently, either.
What do those utilities even grant you though?
Like the only thing I would be interested in is maybe a real time FPS graph (ultra high resolution so I can see the really small peaks and valleys).
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Hey guys, I posted this a few weeks ago, but didn't get a response, so I thought I'd repost it. It's really important that I start building soon because I need to have it done before school begins again. Thanks in advance!
On June 28 2012 06:43 aRyuujin wrote:Hello, I'm pretty noob at building computers. I can put together the parts fine, but I'm not sure what parts to buy, so I'm requesting a build :D + Show Spoiler +
My budget is about $1000, I can go a bit higher if I have to
Resolution: 1920x1080
I'll be using it mainly for gaming (SC2, dota, some others. I'd like to stream these games, I do some graphics work (not enough to make a difference I think), and typical school junk
What is your upgrade cycle?
3 or 4 years
I'd like to have it done this summer while I have a ton of time
I don't plan on overclocking,
Don't need an OS or a monitor
I'm in Houston, TX, US, there's a fry's nearby.
edit: according to someone a few posts up, there's also Microcenter
I want an SSD.
Thanks in advance!
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On July 15 2012 07:13 Medrea wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2012 02:11 JingleHell wrote:On July 15 2012 02:01 Medrea wrote:
Most people use MSI afterburner, which can also monitor temperatures and GPU usage.
Enthusiasts will recommend a lot of different tools, some are very specific (I only use cgminer or aoclbf since I want no interface). But generally speaking, MSI afterburner is the best beginners tool. I mix precision and E-Leet. Precision for standard use, E-Leet for serious bench runs when I do one. To be fair though, they rolled some of the E-Leet GPU functionality into recent Precision releases, but I haven't really pushed anything recently, either. What do those utilities even grant you though? Like the only thing I would be interested in is maybe a real time FPS graph (ultra high resolution so I can see the really small peaks and valleys).
Nothing particularly special, except for coming from EVGA. Well, ELeet is nice because it mixes CPU-z functionality with GPU functionality and, if you want to use it for easy stability testing or a single high bench run, CPU software OCing, although I'm not nearly enough of a high end enthusiast to do software OCs, since I'm not out of the realm of easy BIOS OC.
Precision offers most of the functionality afterburner does, although AFAIK, there's not a Rainmeter extension for Precision yet, and Precision doesn't have video capture, although I couldn't give a shit less about that personally since I use FRAPS.
I also don't know if Precision works with AMD cards, since it's an EVGA utility.
Oh, and for anyone wondering, if you're not either sponsored or trying to get that way, you don't need to worry about that type of CPU OCing.
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One thing that irritates me about a lot of these software utilities is that I dont get perfect control.
MSI forces you to unlock it in order to do a lot of things. For instance when I have to downclock the memory from whatever it is to around 300. Usually ends up being like a 75 percent downclock. Most utilities simply won't let you do this.
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I kind off made this post before, but it got closed after like 3 hours cause the mods thought it was done apparently.
I am going to build a new computer because the one I have now has more than enough faults.
My CPU is getting old and burned out, running slow and can't handle what it used to.
My motherboard is a crappy on for like 90 bucks and is crap.
Case has crap cooling and need to be replaced.
video card is getting old and have been struggling with heat problems so long that they are nearly broken.
Keep in mind : 1 dollar is 6 kroner, so divide price by 6 and Norway is hell of expensive compared to America and all other country's really.
So what I think I am going for is this :
Case : Cooler Master CM 690 II Advanced
http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=649835#extra
Motherboard : ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3, Socket-1155
http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=650757
CPU : Intel® Core i7-2700K Processor
http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=650238
Graphic Card: ASUS GeForce GTX 670 2GB PhysX CUDA
http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=751639
PSU: XFX ProSeries XXX Edition 850W PSU
http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=657693
Memory: Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600MHz 8GB CL9
http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=640645
SSD: OCZ SSD Agility 3 Series 2.5" 120GB
http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=657310
Keep in mind that if you have something you know is better and cheaper i'm all in for that.
My Budget is around 8500 Krones which is roughly around 1400 dollars
Resolution - 1920x1080
I have an OS
Planning on overclocking, but not sure. keep in mind i want to
Planning on building it in roughly a month or so.
Will not be running Sli/crossfire.
I upgrade when i feel my computer can't handle what i need it to. but it usually is around every 2-3 years
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Quick question for 128 GB SSDs:
M4, 830 or Vertex 4? They're pretty much priced the same where I live $190-$220 NZD, so around 20 bucks USD between them. Which would you guys recommend?
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Want to buy a AMD A4-3300 2.5 GHz 1M for $80.
Is it worth it? I currently have a Intel 6320 2CPU 1.86 GHz
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On July 15 2012 11:32 Bswhunter wrote:
Want to buy a AMD A4-3300 2.5 GHz 1M for $80.
Is it worth it? I currently have a Intel 6320 2CPU 1.86 GHz
Since you're looking at a new motherboard to upgrade CPU no matter what, buy a CPU, and not a paperweight.
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On July 15 2012 10:56 Pwnographics wrote:
Quick question for 128 GB SSDs:
M4, 830 or Vertex 4? They're pretty much priced the same where I live $190-$220 NZD, so around 20 bucks USD between them. Which would you guys recommend?
id get the samsung
just a bit faster than the m4
and i wont buy ocz ;d
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On July 15 2012 10:56 Pwnographics wrote:
Quick question for 128 GB SSDs:
M4, 830 or Vertex 4? They're pretty much priced the same where I live $190-$220 NZD, so around 20 bucks USD between them. Which would you guys recommend?
Definitely not Vertex 4.
I'd go with the 830, a bit above the M4 in terms of quality and performance.
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I'm just beginning to build my first computer and am planning to do an external test run of the CPU, GPU, RAM, and Heatsink. I know how to start it by shorting the two power pins, but I was wondering what was the safest way to turn it off.
Should I short the pins again? Or just turn off the PSU via the switch on the back? Thanks!
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Why would you even do that? Why not install it into the case, hook it up, and hope nothing is DOA (chances are low). If you decide to use the screwdriver technique, you might slip and touch a bunch of other pins in the process. Obviously that is a very bad thing because you could very well fry the motherboard in the process.
The reason why "enthusiasts" do shit out of the case is because they're constantly switching parts around and need the space. You don't. Its your first computer.
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