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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
ZealotSensei
Profile Joined September 2011
Denmark70 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-25 23:06:12
April 25 2012 23:00 GMT
#21081
All right, thanks, I'll look for a decent heatsink. I'm having a bit of trouble though finding a decent power supply since I have no clue what so ever to what kind of supply I should buy.

According to the mother board, it uses a
4-pin ATX12V connector / 24-pin main power - connector

So I searched for a 24 pin ATX with 4 removable pins ( I think this is what i need?) . There where no supplies below 300 W What I found was this: http://www.edbpriser.dk/Product/Details.aspx?pid=4205783 ( HEC Windmill Pro HEC-300TP2WX ) for the same price. What should I look for that indicates quality?

Also would this work well for a heatsink? http://www.edbpriser.dk/Product/Details.aspx?pid=4266110
Looks pretty nice since there is no fan and therefor no noise. I don't have much experience with this though so I don't know if its any good. Or would you suggest http://www.edbpriser.dk/processorkoeling/cooler-master-vortex-211q-id-5364511.aspx instead?
Those who give up freedom for security deserve neither!
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-25 23:13:28
April 25 2012 23:07 GMT
#21082
that's a compilation of different stores in denmark i assume. So many suspicious Hantol PSUs there haha. Antec Basiq BP350P-EC for 302 kr would probably be the least expensive reliable PSU there...
Chieftec, FSP and Delta has some OK low end PSUs around the same pricing there too.
I don't have any clue of how reliable a HEC Windmill is.
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 25 2012 23:08 GMT
#21083
Every power supply you buy today will have a 24pin and 4pin cable, it's the standard. I don't recognize any of the power supplies on there except for Antec Basiq. You'll need to google for reviews.

Just get the retail Pentium G630 which includes the stock heatsink, don't know why out opt for OEM when the retail is less: http://www.edbpriser.dk/processor/pentium-g630-3-mb-intel-boxed-id-5470051.aspx
ZealotSensei
Profile Joined September 2011
Denmark70 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-25 23:12:55
April 25 2012 23:10 GMT
#21084
Hehe yea it is All right cheers guys! I'm gonna go with the Antic PSU. Any comments to the build? You believe it will hold up to what i intead for it?

I'm also going for the stock CPU as suggested with the stock heatsink!
Those who give up freedom for security deserve neither!
Anacletus
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States733 Posts
April 26 2012 00:09 GMT
#21085
Hey, I have a rather large spending budget to create an entirely new computer from the base up. I am looking to make something that will last a while while still being optimal for game play. This will be used almost entirely for playing the newest and most demanding games at their highest qualities. I've checked out some competition on high end gaming laptops (I am only interested in laptops) and would like some opinions on spending price vs what I am *really* getting out of it. As regardless of me having a large spending budget I would still like to be cost efficient (can you tell I play Zerg? (jokes aside!)).

Here is some links of computers that I have considered:

http://www.avadirect.com/gaming-laptop-configurator.asp?PRID=23298

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1808177&CatId=4938

http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=dkcwlr2&m_2=I72670Q&m_3=12G4D&m_6=GTX675M&m_8=1TB7R0&m_11=AW71HPE&c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&model_id=alienware-m18x-r2
(click list view just below change performance)

http://www.dell.com/us/p/alienware-m18x-r2/fs

So I'm totally lost in a sea of comparisons and what not, and as I am not necessarily *stupid* with computers I am not hardware oriented. I read the OP and looked and it did not include a lot of the components being listed (maybe it's just not updated).

For an optimal computer that you would consider creating, what of the following pieces would you use?

*memory
*processor
*hard drive
*video card

thanks in advance for any and all opinions on this matter and I will be checking this thread religiously for replies, if you have any more questions feel free to reply or send me a pm, thanks a lot!!
http://talk-to-stimey-please.1324083.n2.nabble.com/
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 26 2012 00:16 GMT
#21086
Gaming notebooks do not last and cannot keep up with the latest requirements for gaming on ultra settings. They're also not cost efficient, you're basically paying a large part of the budget for portability.
Anacletus
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States733 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-26 01:04:32
April 26 2012 00:48 GMT
#21087
On April 26 2012 09:16 skyR wrote:
Gaming notebooks do not last and cannot keep up with the latest requirements for gaming on ultra settings. They're also not cost efficient, you're basically paying a large part of the budget for portability.


Alright, maybe this can be changed to be a desktop, can I ask your thoughts on a top-notch gaming desktop?

just messing around - what would you think about this?

http://ecomm.dell.com/dellstore/basket.aspx?itemtype=CFG&s=dhs&l=en&cs=19&c=us&&details=false
http://talk-to-stimey-please.1324083.n2.nabble.com/
iKill[ShocK]
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vietnam3530 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-26 01:00:49
April 26 2012 00:59 GMT
#21088
fill out the OP's post
[Want a list of parts/Build?] -
+ Show Spoiler +
Important questions you should ask yourself

If you request a build, please answer these questions. We will spend as much effort on your build as you spend on your answers to these questions! I urge people to abstain from providing builds unless all the questions are answered.

What is your budget?

This should be an obvious one, you should determine a price range that best describes how much you want to spend on your build. It makes it easier for people to make recommendations.

What is your resolution?

This is extremely important especially for a gaming machine. I see people all the time asking for a video card recommendation and 5 people reply "5850" and the person hasn't even given their gaming resolution; it turns out the person games at 1280x1024 and could have ended up wasting $200 on a card that is total and complete overkill for his resolution.

What are you using it for?

Mostly gaming? Some gaming with video encoding mixed in? Photoshop? Streaming? All this matters, you can end up spending a lot of money and not be able to do anything you wanted to or you can spend a lot of money on stuff you don't even want to do.

What is your upgrade cycle?

Knowing the answer to this question makes it easier for people to recommend CPU sockets and GPUs so you get the most for your money. A person with a longer upgrade (2+ years) cycle will probably end up spending more initially but end up saving more at the expense of some performance. On the other hand a person with a shorter upgrade cycle (1 - 2 years) wants to spend less initially so they can put more money toward their next build.

When do you plan on building it?

Computer parts shift in prices often. With the release of new products, exist prices may drop further. Even without the release of new prices, changes in supply can affect the price of a specific part. The HD 5850 was supposed to retail at the $260 mark, but in a mere 4-5 months after its release it climbed to top $300 for basic reference models.

Do you plan on overclocking?

If you plan on overclocking, the motherboard choice and heatsink choice will be affected. Enthusiast overclocking requires enthusiast heatsinks and at least a stable motherboard. A simple budget Foxconn motherboard will not be adequate for your overclocking needs!

Do you need an Operating System?

An OS is around $100. It affects how much of your budget we can spend on the actual hardware.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

CrossFire and SLI are powerful solutions that allow higher performance, but in order to utilize them, we have to choose motherboards and PSUs that can support the increased demands that Crossfire and SLI place on your components.

Where are you buying your parts from?

If you have a nearby Fry's or Microcenter you can utilize their deals. If you're in Europe you obviously cannot use Newegg/Fry's/Microcenter so we need to know where you are from to put together a list of parts from a website or area you can actually buy from.

If you can't answer these questions, make sure you can answer them before you ask us to help you put together a list of parts for you. Every single question affects the build we will put together for you greatly so make sure you can answer them accurately!
<3 Kim Taeyeon
Anacletus
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States733 Posts
April 26 2012 01:07 GMT
#21089
On April 26 2012 09:59 iKill[ShocK] wrote:
fill out the OP's post
[Want a list of parts/Build?] -
+ Show Spoiler +
Important questions you should ask yourself

If you request a build, please answer these questions. We will spend as much effort on your build as you spend on your answers to these questions! I urge people to abstain from providing builds unless all the questions are answered.

What is your budget?

This should be an obvious one, you should determine a price range that best describes how much you want to spend on your build. It makes it easier for people to make recommendations.

What is your resolution?

This is extremely important especially for a gaming machine. I see people all the time asking for a video card recommendation and 5 people reply "5850" and the person hasn't even given their gaming resolution; it turns out the person games at 1280x1024 and could have ended up wasting $200 on a card that is total and complete overkill for his resolution.

What are you using it for?

Mostly gaming? Some gaming with video encoding mixed in? Photoshop? Streaming? All this matters, you can end up spending a lot of money and not be able to do anything you wanted to or you can spend a lot of money on stuff you don't even want to do.

What is your upgrade cycle?

Knowing the answer to this question makes it easier for people to recommend CPU sockets and GPUs so you get the most for your money. A person with a longer upgrade (2+ years) cycle will probably end up spending more initially but end up saving more at the expense of some performance. On the other hand a person with a shorter upgrade cycle (1 - 2 years) wants to spend less initially so they can put more money toward their next build.

When do you plan on building it?

Computer parts shift in prices often. With the release of new products, exist prices may drop further. Even without the release of new prices, changes in supply can affect the price of a specific part. The HD 5850 was supposed to retail at the $260 mark, but in a mere 4-5 months after its release it climbed to top $300 for basic reference models.

Do you plan on overclocking?

If you plan on overclocking, the motherboard choice and heatsink choice will be affected. Enthusiast overclocking requires enthusiast heatsinks and at least a stable motherboard. A simple budget Foxconn motherboard will not be adequate for your overclocking needs!

Do you need an Operating System?

An OS is around $100. It affects how much of your budget we can spend on the actual hardware.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

CrossFire and SLI are powerful solutions that allow higher performance, but in order to utilize them, we have to choose motherboards and PSUs that can support the increased demands that Crossfire and SLI place on your components.

Where are you buying your parts from?

If you have a nearby Fry's or Microcenter you can utilize their deals. If you're in Europe you obviously cannot use Newegg/Fry's/Microcenter so we need to know where you are from to put together a list of parts from a website or area you can actually buy from.

If you can't answer these questions, make sure you can answer them before you ask us to help you put together a list of parts for you. Every single question affects the build we will put together for you greatly so make sure you can answer them accurately!


Budget around 3k - 3.5k

I plan on using a 1280x1024

I want this to be optimal for the next 4 years or so (this may be asking for too much, please inform me of what I should expect)

I plan on building it within 3 months

I don't care where I buy parts from, preferably TigerDirect/Dell/MicroCenter/NewEgg

http://talk-to-stimey-please.1324083.n2.nabble.com/
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 26 2012 01:09 GMT
#21090
1280x1024 with a 3.5k budget? lol, you should buy a new monitor and ask again when you have a definite build date.
Anacletus
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States733 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-26 01:19:53
April 26 2012 01:18 GMT
#21091
On April 26 2012 10:09 skyR wrote:
1280x1024 with a 3.5k budget? lol, you should buy a new monitor and ask again when you have a definite build date.


I'm quite comfortable with my present monitor and I just don't really want a bigger one. I also assume that if I do plan on buying a slightly bigger monitor it won't change the specs entirely.

My build date is 3 months at the latest, I could buy something any time between now and then, this is a definite period of time.

edit: it's also quite possible to spend nowhere near 3.5k as well, again I've linked several options that I've tinkered with and am just looking for opinions. I am putting effort into doing this and don't really appreciate the fact that you seem to be putting in little to no effort to tell me that my screen is small and that my budget is large. As I have said this is a maximum amount and that I am very happy to underspend and if you had clicked my linked customs then you would see I built something in the 2k range.
http://talk-to-stimey-please.1324083.n2.nabble.com/
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
April 26 2012 01:19 GMT
#21092
On April 26 2012 10:18 Anacletus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 10:09 skyR wrote:
1280x1024 with a 3.5k budget? lol, you should buy a new monitor and ask again when you have a definite build date.


I'm quite comfortable with my present monitor and I just don't really want a bigger one. I also assume that if I do plan on buying a slightly bigger monitor it won't change the specs entirely.

My build date is 3 months at the latest, I could buy something any time between now and then, this is a definite period of time.


Yes, monitor DOES change the specs completely. Resolution has a huge effect on GPU requirements to max games. Something to do with needing to calculate what to put in something like 2x the pixels at 1080p.
Anacletus
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States733 Posts
April 26 2012 01:22 GMT
#21093
On April 26 2012 10:19 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 10:18 Anacletus wrote:
On April 26 2012 10:09 skyR wrote:
1280x1024 with a 3.5k budget? lol, you should buy a new monitor and ask again when you have a definite build date.


I'm quite comfortable with my present monitor and I just don't really want a bigger one. I also assume that if I do plan on buying a slightly bigger monitor it won't change the specs entirely.

My build date is 3 months at the latest, I could buy something any time between now and then, this is a definite period of time.


Yes, monitor DOES change the specs completely. Resolution has a huge effect on GPU requirements to max games. Something to do with needing to calculate what to put in something like 2x the pixels at 1080p.


Okay, sure, I am presently using 1280x1024, I am not sure what is considered 'large' (maybe 1920x1080, 23 inches?) if this is considered 'well sized' then assume that to be the size then.
http://talk-to-stimey-please.1324083.n2.nabble.com/
iKill[ShocK]
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vietnam3530 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-26 01:26:20
April 26 2012 01:25 GMT
#21094
you're confusing me, but im assuming you mean that you will use a 1920x1080 monitor for your build then? It's the most common resolution used right now.
<3 Kim Taeyeon
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-26 01:27:31
April 26 2012 01:26 GMT
#21095
On April 26 2012 10:22 Anacletus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 10:19 JingleHell wrote:
On April 26 2012 10:18 Anacletus wrote:
On April 26 2012 10:09 skyR wrote:
1280x1024 with a 3.5k budget? lol, you should buy a new monitor and ask again when you have a definite build date.


I'm quite comfortable with my present monitor and I just don't really want a bigger one. I also assume that if I do plan on buying a slightly bigger monitor it won't change the specs entirely.

My build date is 3 months at the latest, I could buy something any time between now and then, this is a definite period of time.


Yes, monitor DOES change the specs completely. Resolution has a huge effect on GPU requirements to max games. Something to do with needing to calculate what to put in something like 2x the pixels at 1080p.


Okay, sure, I am presently using 1280x1024, I am not sure what is considered 'large' (maybe 1920x1080, 23 inches?) if this is considered 'well sized' then assume that to be the size then.


Inches don't matter, just pixels. And 1920x1080 is kinda the emerging standard for average gaming, probably followed by 1680x1050, then up into huge screen real estate and multi-display resolutions.

By the way, you sound like you're trying to cautiously describe your dick on a dating site. Is anyone else on a Troll Condition Yellow right now?
Anacletus
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States733 Posts
April 26 2012 01:28 GMT
#21096
On April 26 2012 10:25 iKill[ShocK] wrote:
you're confusing me, but im assuming you mean that you will use a 1920x1080 monitor for your build then? It's the most common resolution used right now.


I will most likely be using that if it's common then, yes. I am not necessarily knowledgeable in resolutions and apparently I use a laughable resolution right now as well. If 1920x1080 would be able to run games on optimal settings like SC2 on Ultra and other games on their max settings then, yes. As everything that I've looked up in this time has displayed 1920x1080 is standard for high settings as well I assume so.
http://talk-to-stimey-please.1324083.n2.nabble.com/
iKill[ShocK]
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vietnam3530 Posts
April 26 2012 01:51 GMT
#21097
On April 26 2012 10:26 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 10:22 Anacletus wrote:
On April 26 2012 10:19 JingleHell wrote:
On April 26 2012 10:18 Anacletus wrote:
On April 26 2012 10:09 skyR wrote:
1280x1024 with a 3.5k budget? lol, you should buy a new monitor and ask again when you have a definite build date.


I'm quite comfortable with my present monitor and I just don't really want a bigger one. I also assume that if I do plan on buying a slightly bigger monitor it won't change the specs entirely.

My build date is 3 months at the latest, I could buy something any time between now and then, this is a definite period of time.


Yes, monitor DOES change the specs completely. Resolution has a huge effect on GPU requirements to max games. Something to do with needing to calculate what to put in something like 2x the pixels at 1080p.


Okay, sure, I am presently using 1280x1024, I am not sure what is considered 'large' (maybe 1920x1080, 23 inches?) if this is considered 'well sized' then assume that to be the size then.


Inches don't matter, just pixels. And 1920x1080 is kinda the emerging standard for average gaming, probably followed by 1680x1050, then up into huge screen real estate and multi-display resolutions.

By the way, you sound like you're trying to cautiously describe your dick on a dating site. Is anyone else on a Troll Condition Yellow right now?


nah he's asking genuine questions, condition yellow is a no-go

<3 Kim Taeyeon
Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
April 26 2012 01:52 GMT
#21098
How is this board?

And any other good deals from NCIX anniversary sale?
There is no one like you in the universe.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-26 01:57:37
April 26 2012 01:53 GMT
#21099
On April 26 2012 10:52 Blisse wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
How is this board?

And any other good deals from NCIX anniversary sale?


Z77A-G43 is better for less.

P280 and R3 are both hot.

HS1A is hot if you just need a headset.

EVGA GTX 560 is hot.

Powercolor 7950 is hot, XFX 7950 DD is hot.

2600k + P8Z77-V Pro for $500 with $50 gift card is hot.

Just took a quick glimpse.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 26 2012 01:58 GMT
#21100
On April 26 2012 10:18 Anacletus wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
On April 26 2012 10:09 skyR wrote:
1280x1024 with a 3.5k budget? lol, you should buy a new monitor and ask again when you have a definite build date.


I'm quite comfortable with my present monitor and I just don't really want a bigger one. I also assume that if I do plan on buying a slightly bigger monitor it won't change the specs entirely.

My build date is 3 months at the latest, I could buy something any time between now and then, this is a definite period of time.

edit: it's also quite possible to spend nowhere near 3.5k as well, again I've linked several options that I've tinkered with and am just looking for opinions. I am putting effort into doing this and don't really appreciate the fact that you seem to be putting in little to no effort to tell me that my screen is small and that my budget is large. As I have said this is a maximum amount and that I am very happy to underspend and if you had clicked my linked customs then you would see I built something in the 2k range.


I have no interest in gaming notebooks so there is no reason for me to offer my opinion on the M18X or the other ones you linked to. I simply pointed out that what you're looking to do is not possible.

I don't appreciate the fact that you're being jerk. You don't need to be educated in consumer computer hardware to know that new components will be released and pricing won't remain static for three months. I volunteer my time to post in this thread so I don't have an obligation to help you.

For desktops - 2560x1400 or above is large, 1920x1080 is the norm, and anything under 1680x1050 is stone age.

What resolution you play on does change GPU requirements significantly. The difference between 1280x1080 and 1920x1080 is roughly a million pixels and the difference between 1920x1080 and 5760x1080 is roughly four million. If hardware requirements did not change significantly, why would there be SKUs ranging from $50 to $1000+?

If you put effort into this, I would expect several paragraphs detailing what exactly you want and what you currently have in mind along with why. Providing a measly paragraph and a few links is like a minutes work, I do not see this as effort. Let's not mention that you simply ignored the other questions in the OP such as needing an operating system, overclocking, and doing SLI / CrossfireX.
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