WCSCommunity Update - July 2, 2019 - Page 5
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insitelol
808 Posts
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MockHamill
Sweden1551 Posts
Stim change I am not sure about. It is possible it will make some timing too strong, but I am not sure. | ||
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Ej_
45293 Posts
Truly awful changes | ||
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Steelghost1
3 Posts
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Jae Hyuk
2 Posts
I thnk that Warf-Prism's boarding arrange need to narrow, but Increasing summon time is a good selection. | ||
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Dave4
295 Posts
On July 02 2019 07:53 Charoisaur wrote: Don't like the Warpprism nerf at all. prisms are one of the most fun units in the game and promote active gameplay. They should be good. Disappointing they listen to whining Zerg players I'm not sure that calling Zerg players whiners is a constructive way to contribute to the discussion. On point I think these changes are all pretty good and should give a bit of vitality to a somewhat stagnating meta. | ||
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Mlord
France107 Posts
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fastr
France652 Posts
On July 02 2019 14:56 insitelol wrote: And how am I supposed to reinforce the poke pushes btw? In early-mid game? in PvP and PvT? PvP will become a SG fest again. I'm just pinned to the base until 10 minute now. Well thought, blizzard. How about producing the units in your base and walking them across the map, you know, like what the other 2 races had to do for the last 9 years? Jesus Christ the entitlement. It's not enough that most protoss units can be instantly produced, they should also appears wherever I need! | ||
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dysenterymd
55 Posts
On the bright side, I always enjoyed watching phoenix vs phoenix PvP, and there'll surely be more of that! | ||
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RatzBarcode
United States70 Posts
On July 02 2019 16:34 fastr wrote: How about producing the units in your base and walking them across the map, you know, like what the other 2 races had to do for the last 9 years? Jesus Christ the entitlement. It's not enough that most protoss units can be instantly produced, they should also appears wherever I need! The problem is the game hasn't really been balanced around that. That's not how Protoss harassment works, that's why gateway units were pitiful, and still aren't that strong compared to the other races. | ||
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Argonauta
Spain1763 Posts
On July 02 2019 16:43 RatzBarcode wrote: The problem is the game hasn't really been balanced around that. That's not how Protoss harassment works, that's why gateway units were pitiful, and still aren't that strong compared to the other races. I disagree. taking together LOTV buffs, zealots are really really strong, tanky AND powerful damage dealers if they reach melee, stalkers are a tactical op unit that shines in low numbers battles and adepts are really powerful exploiting opponents multitasking. | ||
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showstealer1829
Australia3046 Posts
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic8262 Posts
On July 02 2019 16:29 Mlord wrote: It's close to the best they can do for now, only a blizzcon patch could redesign protoss to make it a fair race, also crazy that they introduced acropolis in a "rough" time for terran as i don't think i've ever seen a macro map that imbalanced for zerg and protoss against terran Well, in the last map pool there were 2 imbalanced maps, one of which stayed(Cyber Forest), so, uh, it's probably their choice to have such 2 maps in the game(which is stupid, but what can we do) On July 02 2019 16:43 RatzBarcode wrote: The problem is the game hasn't really been balanced around that. That's not how Protoss harassment works, that's why gateway units were pitiful, and still aren't that strong compared to the other races. Adept especially was added as a powerful tanky unit which can survive long enough and do some damage. Longer warp in in earlier stages where you need the defender advantage the most is a good choice. More all ins will move to proxy pylon&gateway combo which is easier to defend. | ||
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Nars_
26 Posts
Finally after 9 years I can uninstall the game. | ||
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yht9657
United Kingdom1410 Posts
On July 02 2019 16:34 fastr wrote: How about producing the units in your base and walking them across the map, you know, like what the other 2 races had to do for the last 9 years? Jesus Christ the entitlement. It's not enough that most protoss units can be instantly produced, they should also appears wherever I need! By the other 2 races you mean the one who can lift and boost their whole army into opponent's base and the one who can literally teleport infinite supply of forces anywhere on the visible map? | ||
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darklycid
466 Posts
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insitelol
808 Posts
On July 02 2019 17:06 Nars_ wrote: "Yeah we don't really think Protoss is overpowered, players talk about different stages of the game and all. Here guys - massive nerfs to Protoss and big boost to Terran have fun" My thoughts exactly. "Some whiners say protoss is OP, but there is no evidence to that - winratios are negative for toss, they haven't won a single tournament in 2 years, hm... it's a controvercy! We have no clue what's going on, but if we remain silent, everyone will think we are not doing our job, we will get fired, sooo.... lets nerf the fuck out of protoss". "L" stands for logics. On July 02 2019 17:07 yht9657 wrote: By the other 2 races you mean the one who can lift and boost their whole army into opponent's base and the one who can literally teleport infinite supply of forces anywhere on the visible map? Ye, i like how they justify recall nerf by "punishing" protoss players who are "constatly out of position" and completely ignore free nydus spamming for zergs. Those positioning issues, you know. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic8262 Posts
On July 02 2019 17:15 insitelol wrote: My thoughts exactly. "Some whiners say protoss is OP, but there is no evidence to that - winratios are negative for toss, they haven't won a single tournament in 2 years, hm... it's a controvercy! We have no clue what's going on, but if we remain silent, everyone will think we are not doing our job, we will get fired, sooo.... lets nerf the fuck out of protoss". "L" stands for logics. 8 Protoss players in RO16 (Code S S2) 7 Protoss players in RO8 (GSL ST1) Several 2nd places of Protosses(Code S: 2018 S1, 2018 S2, 2019 S1, 2019 S2; 2018 GSL ST2; IEM: Katowice 2019, PyeongChang 2018, Katowice 2018; Blizzcon 2018) NO PROTOSS CHAMPION IN 2 YEARS!$!$!$ Classic just won GSL ST1? Stats won the 2018 GSL ST1? Classic won the 2018 GSL ST2? How about WCS? Showtime, MaNa, Has, Neeb? (Neeb won WCS America IIRC) Do you watch SC2 or just complain? | ||
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Harris1st
Germany2182 Posts
Bio All-In, all day, every day | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic8262 Posts
On July 02 2019 17:25 Harris1st wrote: I like most changes but the stim timing seems overkill. Bio All-In, all day, every day Well, if this change moves PvT from auto 3rd to "let's do 2 base dance, baby, like it's hots again" - I will probably like it  | ||
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