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On July 01 2019 18:20 RatzBarcode wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2019 12:37 Nakajin wrote:
Great job by Serral, barring a massive patch or meta shift, I'm starting to really beleive in another sweep of GSLvsTW and Blizzcon.
But appart from him I have to say it was an abysmal performance by the rest of the foreing crew: 28-93 in map and 9-40 in match vs koreans. (with almost half the losses beeing on Creator) It really feel like they aren't getting any closer. There's really 4 tiers of foreigners. Serral Neeb, Scarlett, Special, Reynor uthermal, dns, elazer, etc rest of NA and EU
this is so wrong talk to the pros check check the results and u get other picture
typical usa view putting reynor and scarlet to high
also heromarine is nr 1 eu terran since ages
uthermal getting crushed by heromarine and lambo on a regular bases
tier 1 serral
tier 2 neeb showtime heromarine elazer lambo reynor special
tier 3 uthermal harstem scarlett ,,,etc
rest of na is a joke there are like at least 20 eu players before the next na player
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Serral the savior of sc2. Congrats!
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On July 01 2019 18:55 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2019 18:20 RatzBarcode wrote:On July 01 2019 12:37 Nakajin wrote:
Great job by Serral, barring a massive patch or meta shift, I'm starting to really beleive in another sweep of GSLvsTW and Blizzcon.
But appart from him I have to say it was an abysmal performance by the rest of the foreing crew: 28-93 in map and 9-40 in match vs koreans. (with almost half the losses beeing on Creator) It really feel like they aren't getting any closer. There's really 4 tiers of foreigners. Serral Neeb, Scarlett, Special, Reynor uthermal, dns, elazer, etc rest of NA and EU What rest of NA?
Good to know Lambo, Mlord, Clem, Showtime are na tier or the etc is that extended ?
(And wtf dns, he is not even the best french protoss, not the same categorie as the others mentionned)
Edit : Gratz Serral, I prefered Stephano/Life but it feels good to have a foreigner doing consistently well against the koreans.
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On July 01 2019 19:38 tilhorizon wrote:
this is so wrong talk to the pros check check the results and u get other picture
typical usa view putting reynor and scarlet to high
also heromarine is nr 1 eu terran since ages
uthermal getting crushed by heromarine and lambo on a regular bases
tier 1 serral
tier 2 neeb showtime heromarine elazer lambo reynor special
tier 3 uthermal harstem scarlett ,,,etc
rest of na is a joke there are like at least 20 eu players before the next na player
You say its typical usa view to put Reynor too high (tier 2) and then you go on to put him equally high (tier 2). lol so funny 
Hope to see Serral keep up these results, would be fun if TY starts making some progress in GSL as well!
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On July 01 2019 17:59 pvsnp wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2019 17:23 deacon.frost wrote:On July 01 2019 17:01 Shuffleblade wrote:
Serral did bleed against Stats and were taken to the brink by TY but he looked incredibly dominant. I missed the games vs Stats but against TY even if it was close score wise in the finals he looked clearly the better player. He is just too good and it doesn't even look like he breaks a sweat. Not a Serral fan but how can anyone stay not a Serral fan It's actually easy when you have some fanboys who make it impossible Some preivous cases with similar zealous fans - JD, FlasH I rather enjoy Serral's play and his interviews. He's a solid macro player with a dry sense of humor, doesn't cheese all the time or talk trash. He has great scouting, reactions, and composure. At his strongest he reminds me of Flash in the old days. And he doesn't let it go to his head. I can say very little against Serral the player or Serral the man. But Serral the avatar as created by the community, the mythical, legendary, godlike outline onto which rabid fanboys project their every dream of personal invincibility–well, not so much. You can't get in a word edgewise. Anything less than sycophantic fawning or unctuous worship draws the ire of a surprising number of people with apparently nothing better to do than patrol every last thread and comment to defend their lord and saviour from the slightest stain on his honor. Which of course then brings in his detractors, and both sides then argue back and forth ad infinitum, on any and every topic related in the slightest way and many that are unrelated at all, until a random passer-by who happened to wander into the Starcraft community could be forgiven for thinking that the name is actually Serralcraft. WCS? Serral is playing there, better talk about him even though he's in the other qualifier, or on the opposite side of the bracket, or already finished his series, and won't play until next day or week or month. GSL? Serral should play there against the Koreans and oh by the way here is how I think Serral will perform or win or lose or juggle with his feet while walking on his hands and playing the ukulele. Tournament results? Well Serral won again, or he wasn't there and he would have won, or he got knocked out due to bad bracket luck and he should have won. Or it's actually Fortnite but yknow Serral would do great there too. And win. Did I mention winning? Power rankings? Reeee why isn't Serral here instead of there which is obviously the only correct and perfectly objective and absolutely unquestionably right place. And on, and on, and on, and on. I remind myself that Serral is not responsible for the actions of his obnoxious fans, but even so I struggle not to think worse of him for it, and often wish he'll lose just to silence them. Which is a real shame, because none of it is his fault. It's not unique to Serral, of course. Maru was nearly as bad last year, and the same applied to JD and Flash in their heyday. Still, I would contend that any one player who dictates the flow of almost every conversation related to the game he plays comes at the detriment of the rest of the players and the community. Anyhow, that's my rant.
Good writing.
But cant you see why this is happening ? Years after years after years we have been waiting for a foreinger player, that does regularly go head to head with Koreans and even win sometimes. All these years Korean "elitists" have shunned any foreingers or even belittled their plays all the time. I cant remember all the names here of course, but Naniwa, Stephano, Scarlett.......and the other few that have shown talent and ambition to match the Koreans. All the time you have had to read "they are fluke" or "they never win a tournament, when xxxxx Korean player is participating" etc. Then there comes Serral from nowhere and suddenly stomps all Koreans to the ground. I can propably speak for many of the "zealots" here to say that it felt Gooooooooooood.
Still, even in 2018, there were some active writers here that liked to point out the terms "Fluke"...."Joke compared to Maru"....."Only wins in foreinger tournaments". This tournament finally kinda put an end to the speculations, where the last of the Titans called "TY" would wipe the floor with Serral if they ever met or played a decent macro game. And yeah, after having a bit rocky start in 2019 (meaning he didnt win all tournaments), he still managed to swipe TY twice with no sweat at all. Of course now the excuse propably is that "TY wasnt at his best" or "Serral just luckied out" or some other bullshit.
Cant you guys really even once say, that he was the best player in this tournament ? Or that he is one of the best if not the best player in the world atm ? You dont have to admit he is the best, but for gods sake he is up there and at any given day he can challenge any player in the world head to head without being afraid to lose. That doesnt mean that he doesnt lose to anybody or that he is invincible, which he clearly isnt. But for the first time ever in Starcraft we have a player outside of Korea, that can dominate tournaments like no one has before.
Altough it of course introduces over the top fanatics and fanboys too, but so what ? So have all the other great champions done in the past. It isnt Serrals fault, and it should never, ever downgrade his accomplishments. When you try to deny or belittle his wins, dont you see that you just throw more gasoline to these fanatics ? Or is that just what you are hoping for ??
Anyways, GG WP to Serral yet again. Amazing victory 
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On July 01 2019 17:59 pvsnp wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2019 17:23 deacon.frost wrote:On July 01 2019 17:01 Shuffleblade wrote:
Serral did bleed against Stats and were taken to the brink by TY but he looked incredibly dominant. I missed the games vs Stats but against TY even if it was close score wise in the finals he looked clearly the better player. He is just too good and it doesn't even look like he breaks a sweat. Not a Serral fan but how can anyone stay not a Serral fan It's actually easy when you have some fanboys who make it impossible Some preivous cases with similar zealous fans - JD, FlasH I rather enjoy Serral's play and his interviews. He's a solid macro player with a dry sense of humor, doesn't cheese all the time or talk trash. He has great scouting, reactions, and composure. At his strongest he reminds me of Flash in the old days. And he doesn't let it go to his head. I can say very little against Serral the player or Serral the man. But Serral the avatar as created by the community, the mythical, legendary, godlike outline onto which rabid fanboys project their every dream of personal invincibility–well, not so much. You can't get in a word edgewise. Anything less than sycophantic fawning or unctuous worship draws the ire of a surprising number of people with apparently nothing better to do than patrol every last thread and comment to defend their lord and saviour from the slightest stain on his honor. Which of course then brings in his detractors, and both sides then argue back and forth ad infinitum, on any and every topic related in the slightest way and many that are unrelated at all, until a random passer-by who happened to wander into the Starcraft community could be forgiven for thinking that the name is actually Serralcraft. WCS? Serral is playing there, better talk about him even though he's in the other qualifier, or on the opposite side of the bracket, or already finished his series, and won't play until next day or week or month. GSL? Serral should play there against the Koreans and oh by the way here is how I think Serral will perform or win or lose or juggle with his feet while walking on his hands and playing the ukulele. Tournament results? Well Serral won again, or he wasn't there and he would have won, or he got knocked out due to bad bracket luck and he should have won. Or it's actually Fortnite but yknow Serral would do great there too. And win. Did I mention winning? Power rankings? Reeee why isn't Serral here instead of there which is obviously the only correct and perfectly objective and absolutely unquestionably right place. And on, and on, and on, and on. I remind myself that Serral is not responsible for the actions of his obnoxious fans, but even so I struggle not to think worse of him for it, and often wish he'll lose just to silence them. Which is a real shame, because none of it is his fault. It's not unique to Serral, of course. Maru was nearly as bad last year, and the same applied to JD and Flash in their heyday. Still, I would contend that any one player who dictates the flow of almost every conversation related to the game he plays comes at the detriment of the rest of the players and the community. Anyhow, that's my rant.
You actually got it backwards. Serral isn't really celebrated that much on Team Liquid(Reddit is a totally different thing); actually, the anti-Serral minority was making a disproportionate amount of similarly oriented post when I was still lurking. I have rarely seen a player so contested after his victories and so discredited after his rare losses(WESG 2018 and how Serral was "crushed").
If you want to see true veneration just look at how the people here worship Maru as the perfect korean specimen winning the ultimate competition multiple times; his losses were followed by a choir of despair(as it should be the case), I saw veery few attempts to show how overrated he was(as a player, he wasn't, his skill is superb; his accomplishments someway are, but that's my opinion), unlike it happened many times after Serral's victories.
The fact Serral is not a korean makes it more difficult to compare his level and his accomplishments to the other greats, as well as leading people to consider him the favourite in tournaments where koreans participate less often than it should if we would simply look at results; too bad that too little facts(win ratios and statistics) and too many opinions("Olimoleagues are more prestigious than WCS", "Serral would have never beaten a korean Terran, such bracket luck") are taken into the discussion when one happens to start(way too frequently).
To answer to some of your points: the request that Serral plays in Code S comes more from the anti-fans, his losses are justified way less than it happens with other players, the Power Ranking is in debt of at least one(if not two) glaring first place Serral had to be given(the obnoxious "Drunk Rank").
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Glad TYTY is up there again. Also really good plays from the Zester. Congratz to Serral. Looked a bit shaky after TY has thrown every strat possible his way, but collected himself and won anyway.
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On July 01 2019 19:38 tilhorizon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2019 18:20 RatzBarcode wrote:On July 01 2019 12:37 Nakajin wrote:
Great job by Serral, barring a massive patch or meta shift, I'm starting to really beleive in another sweep of GSLvsTW and Blizzcon.
But appart from him I have to say it was an abysmal performance by the rest of the foreing crew: 28-93 in map and 9-40 in match vs koreans. (with almost half the losses beeing on Creator) It really feel like they aren't getting any closer. There's really 4 tiers of foreigners. Serral Neeb, Scarlett, Special, Reynor uthermal, dns, elazer, etc rest of NA and EU this is so wrong talk to the pros check check the results and u get other picture typical usa view putting reynor and scarlet to high also heromarine is nr 1 eu terran since ages uthermal getting crushed by heromarine and lambo on a regular bases tier 1 serral tier 2 neeb showtime heromarine elazer lambo reynor special tier 3 uthermal harstem scarlett ,,,etc rest of na is a joke there are like at least 20 eu players before the next na player
Considering Scarlett manages to qualify quite regularly to the Code S and even advance to Ro16 on her good days I say she's T2. She had good WESG run and not bad IEM results(where was showtime, elazer or reynor at IEM?  )
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Here comes the people pvsnp talking about
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On July 01 2019 20:00 Shuffleblade wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2019 19:38 tilhorizon wrote:
this is so wrong talk to the pros check check the results and u get other picture
typical usa view putting reynor and scarlet to high
also heromarine is nr 1 eu terran since ages
uthermal getting crushed by heromarine and lambo on a regular bases
tier 1 serral
tier 2 neeb showtime heromarine elazer lambo reynor special
tier 3 uthermal harstem scarlett ,,,etc
rest of na is a joke there are like at least 20 eu players before the next na player
You say its typical usa view to put Reynor too high (tier 2) and then you go on to put him equally high (tier 2). lol so funny Hope to see Serral keep up these results, would be fun if TY starts making some progress in GSL as well!
no
he thinks reynor is on a different tier than other top europeans like heromarine elazer lambo
he is putting other europeans on tier 3 and reynor on 2, there is the important difference
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On July 01 2019 20:10 Starcloud wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2019 17:59 pvsnp wrote:On July 01 2019 17:23 deacon.frost wrote:On July 01 2019 17:01 Shuffleblade wrote:
Serral did bleed against Stats and were taken to the brink by TY but he looked incredibly dominant. I missed the games vs Stats but against TY even if it was close score wise in the finals he looked clearly the better player. He is just too good and it doesn't even look like he breaks a sweat. Not a Serral fan but how can anyone stay not a Serral fan It's actually easy when you have some fanboys who make it impossible Some preivous cases with similar zealous fans - JD, FlasH I rather enjoy Serral's play and his interviews. He's a solid macro player with a dry sense of humor, doesn't cheese all the time or talk trash. He has great scouting, reactions, and composure. At his strongest he reminds me of Flash in the old days. And he doesn't let it go to his head. I can say very little against Serral the player or Serral the man. But Serral the avatar as created by the community, the mythical, legendary, godlike outline onto which rabid fanboys project their every dream of personal invincibility–well, not so much. You can't get in a word edgewise. Anything less than sycophantic fawning or unctuous worship draws the ire of a surprising number of people with apparently nothing better to do than patrol every last thread and comment to defend their lord and saviour from the slightest stain on his honor. Which of course then brings in his detractors, and both sides then argue back and forth ad infinitum, on any and every topic related in the slightest way and many that are unrelated at all, until a random passer-by who happened to wander into the Starcraft community could be forgiven for thinking that the name is actually Serralcraft. WCS? Serral is playing there, better talk about him even though he's in the other qualifier, or on the opposite side of the bracket, or already finished his series, and won't play until next day or week or month. GSL? Serral should play there against the Koreans and oh by the way here is how I think Serral will perform or win or lose or juggle with his feet while walking on his hands and playing the ukulele. Tournament results? Well Serral won again, or he wasn't there and he would have won, or he got knocked out due to bad bracket luck and he should have won. Or it's actually Fortnite but yknow Serral would do great there too. And win. Did I mention winning? Power rankings? Reeee why isn't Serral here instead of there which is obviously the only correct and perfectly objective and absolutely unquestionably right place. And on, and on, and on, and on. I remind myself that Serral is not responsible for the actions of his obnoxious fans, but even so I struggle not to think worse of him for it, and often wish he'll lose just to silence them. Which is a real shame, because none of it is his fault. It's not unique to Serral, of course. Maru was nearly as bad last year, and the same applied to JD and Flash in their heyday. Still, I would contend that any one player who dictates the flow of almost every conversation related to the game he plays comes at the detriment of the rest of the players and the community. Anyhow, that's my rant. + Show Spoiler +Good writing.
But cant you see why this is happening ? Years after years after years we have been waiting for a foreinger player, that does regularly go head to head with Koreans and even win sometimes. All these years Korean "elitists" have shunned any foreingers or even belittled their plays all the time. I cant remember all the names here of course, but Naniwa, Stephano, Scarlett.......and the other few that have shown talent and ambition to match the Koreans. All the time you have had to read "they are fluke" or "they never win a tournament, when xxxxx Korean player is participating" etc. Then there comes Serral from nowhere and suddenly stomps all Koreans to the ground. I can propably speak for many of the "zealots" here to say that it felt Gooooooooooood.
Still, even in 2018, there were some active writers here that liked to point out the terms "Fluke"...."Joke compared to Maru"..... "Only wins in foreinger tournaments". This tournament finally kinda put an end to the speculations, where the last of the Titans called "TY" would wipe the floor with Serral + Show Spoiler +if they ever met or played a decent macro game. And yeah, after having a bit rocky start in 2019 (meaning he didnt win all tournaments), he still managed to swipe TY twice with no sweat at all. Of course now the excuse propably is that "TY wasnt at his best" or "Serral just luckied out" or some other bullshit. Cant you guys really even once say, that he was the best player in this tournament ? Or that he is one of the best if not the best player in the world atm ? You dont have to admit he is the best, but for gods sake he is up there and at any given day he can challenge any player in the world head to head without being afraid to lose. That doesnt mean that he doesnt lose to anybody or that he is invincible, which he clearly isnt. But for the first time ever in Starcraft we have a player outside of Korea, that can dominate tournaments like no one has before. Altough it of course introduces over the top fanatics and fanboys too, but so what ? So have all the other great champions done in the past. It isnt Serrals fault, and it should never, ever downgrade his accomplishments. When you try to deny or belittle his wins, dont you see that you just throw more gasoline to these fanatics ? Or is that just what you are hoping for ?? Anyways, GG WP to Serral yet again. Amazing victory
Serral wins mostly in foreigner tournaments, what's so wrong in stating that? And up until GSL vs TW it was true, he got beaten by Koreans up until that match but he was being hyped way before that(and he lost in the NW before that either).
Also no one in their right mind would consider TY giant ATM. He has worse results than Maru and Maru is very questionable at best. Let's hope TY will follow Innovation's path and will be only better onwards but currently it reminds me HSC18. And usually not that many people were denying the Serral form at the tournament while they were denying "the best player of the world" which cannot be decided from his rare games against Koreans when he doesn't play the top while he is at the top. He should be defeating these Koreans if we consider him top4. NONE of the Koreans there were top4 Koreans except Stats. (edit> Classic, Stats, Innovation, Dark IMO and I am not sure about Stats)
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how surprising.
It's not normal to win every event you enter. like really. in the past 1 1/2 years, he won like 10/12 events he entered. Granted, only 4 of those had top korean participation, but he's 3/4 in those as well.
It boggles my mind there is ppl who don't think serral is #1 worldwide. Dark #1 cuz he just won a GSL? Do you know how many attemps Dark needed to win a GSL?
In the past 18 months, Serral would probably need 1 or 2 attempts at that, let's be honest.
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Fantastic! Thanks
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On July 01 2019 20:32 KalWarkov wrote:
how surprising.
It's not normal to win every event you enter. like really. in the past 1 1/2 years, he won like 10/12 events he entered. Granted, only 4 of those had top korean participation, but he's 3/4 in those as well.
It boggles my mind there is ppl who don't think serral is #1 worldwide. Dark #1 cuz he just won a GSL? Do you know how many attemps Dark needed to win a GSL?
In the past 18 months, Serral would probably need 1 or 2 attempts at that, let's be honest.
Serral did not spawn out of nowhere. He is playing since 2012
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On July 01 2019 20:14 tilhorizon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2019 20:00 Shuffleblade wrote:On July 01 2019 19:38 tilhorizon wrote:
this is so wrong talk to the pros check check the results and u get other picture
typical usa view putting reynor and scarlet to high
also heromarine is nr 1 eu terran since ages
uthermal getting crushed by heromarine and lambo on a regular bases
tier 1 serral
tier 2 neeb showtime heromarine elazer lambo reynor special
tier 3 uthermal harstem scarlett ,,,etc
rest of na is a joke there are like at least 20 eu players before the next na player
You say its typical usa view to put Reynor too high (tier 2) and then you go on to put him equally high (tier 2). lol so funny Hope to see Serral keep up these results, would be fun if TY starts making some progress in GSL as well! no he thinks reynor is on a different tier than other top europeans like heromarine elazer lambo he is putting other europeans on tier 3 and reynor on 2, there is the important difference
uthermal has a way higher chance of beating serral than heromarine. I would also say uthermal is more likely to beat top end koreans. Heromarine is more consistant against other foreigners.
They are pretty close, i'd put uthermal slightly above Heromarine still. Not only cuz he has a higher potential, he's also the only one who is close-ish to serral's Ladder MMR with a peak of almost 7.2k - Serral: almost 7.6k btw LUL.
Special is slightly above both of them.
Reynor and Neeb are in the same tier. Reynor challanges Serral on a constant basis, even beat him to win a WCS once. clearly #2 in europe, no quesiton about it at this point. Neeb sadly has way less competition to prove himself in Challangers.
Watch my foreigner ranking from last week if ur interested in my view
https://tl.net/blogs/549241-subjective-foreigner-ranking-june-2019
with last tournament, i would slightly tweak A Tier:
4-Special / 5-uthermal / 6-Scarlett / 7-Lambo / 8-Elazer / 9-Heromarine / 10-ShoWTimE / 11-Time
Showtime has the potential to even get into the A+ Tier, and he was there 18 months ago, but sadly, he doesn't perform in tournaments. Seems to be a mental blockade
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On July 01 2019 20:41 KalWarkov wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2019 20:14 tilhorizon wrote:On July 01 2019 20:00 Shuffleblade wrote:On July 01 2019 19:38 tilhorizon wrote:
this is so wrong talk to the pros check check the results and u get other picture
typical usa view putting reynor and scarlet to high
also heromarine is nr 1 eu terran since ages
uthermal getting crushed by heromarine and lambo on a regular bases
tier 1 serral
tier 2 neeb showtime heromarine elazer lambo reynor special
tier 3 uthermal harstem scarlett ,,,etc
rest of na is a joke there are like at least 20 eu players before the next na player
You say its typical usa view to put Reynor too high (tier 2) and then you go on to put him equally high (tier 2). lol so funny Hope to see Serral keep up these results, would be fun if TY starts making some progress in GSL as well! no he thinks reynor is on a different tier than other top europeans like heromarine elazer lambo he is putting other europeans on tier 3 and reynor on 2, there is the important difference uthermal has a way higher chance of beating serral than heromarine.
Top kek. Heromarine 2-0'd Serral a few months ago, and he 3-0'd Reynor yesterday
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Well at least until next Blizzcon, Serral IS the best sc2 player on the world. That's what this title means. There shouldn't be argue about that. And comparing Stephano and Scarlett to him is also little bit too much, as they never get close to what Serral achieved as a foreigner in sc2 or Broodwar world. He won Blizzcon for god sake. Also he doesn't seem to stop there, as he dominates this year too. That's why he gets so much hype, and I'm not suprised. He deserves it.
Even TY said before the finals: "Serral is god". So not only psychofans are stating this :-)
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On July 01 2019 21:09 hiroshOne wrote:
Well at least until next Blizzcon, Serral IS the best sc2 player on the world. That's what this title means. There shouldn't be argue about that. And comparing Stephano and Scarlett to him is also little bit too much, as they never get close to what Serral achieved as a foreigner in sc2 or Broodwar world. He won Blizzcon for god sake. Also he doesn't seem to stop there, as he dominates this year too. That's why he gets so much hype, and I'm not suprised. He deserves it.
Even TY said before the finals: "Serral is god". So not only psychofans are stating this :-)
Why not? The top4 players are Classic, Serral, Dark, and Innovation. We can discuss the Inno part and replacing him with Stats(maybe? not sure). Except Seral none of these were present at HSC so I don't know how you can say he's the best when he did beat players he's supposed to beat if we consider him at least being in the top4.
Or you can elevate all the players being at the HSC to godlike status and even then Classic still has the best argument for being the best player of the world at this moment
Edit>
I, personally, would put Serral at the 2nd place right after Classic as Inno isn't exactly the greatest and Serral appears to have Dark's number(and he isn't the greatest either). Dark/Inno 3rd/4th (the same with Innovation -> Stats)
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On July 01 2019 21:09 hiroshOne wrote:
Well at least until next Blizzcon, Serral IS the best sc2 player on the world. That's what this title means. There shouldn't be argue about that. And comparing Stephano and Scarlett to him is also little bit too much, as they never get close to what Serral achieved as a foreigner in sc2 or Broodwar world. He won Blizzcon for god sake. Also he doesn't seem to stop there, as he dominates this year too. That's why he gets so much hype, and I'm not suprised. He deserves it.
Even TY said before the finals: "Serral is god". So not only psychofans are stating this :-)
As much as I loved Serrals play here and I'm very impressed by his play this doesn't make him the best in the world. Never ever has anyone claimed a player was the greatest because of a HSC win, its just too small.
The only top players he defeated were soO (got BO8 last season GSL, not even in the last powerrank and not even close to top 4) and TY twice (whom got knocked out in the RO32 in the last GSL season by sOs and Ragnarok and isn't even placed in the powerrank either, also far from top4)
So Serral defeated two good koreans (and lots of foreigners) whom aren't even top 10 players and therefore he is obviously world champion?
lol I don't want to belittle Serrals accomplishment because his result and gameplay is awesome but this result says nothing about best in the world. He lost to Stats and haven't played Classic, Maru, Innovation, Trap or Dark.
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