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Subjective Foreigner Ranking, June 2019

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KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-24 17:06:13
June 24 2019 17:03 GMT
#1
It's been a while!

I've been doing foreigner rankings for quite a while a couple of years ago - click the links for some nostalgia - my first one being from

March 2012: https://tl.net/blogs/321332-top-30-foreigner-ranking

and my last one from

February 2016: https://tl.net/blogs/504106-my-personal-wcs-player-ranking-top-30

So I decided - why not give it another go? Don't take offense if ur favorite player isn't ranked as you think he should be, this is just a fun little thing and totally subjective. I still follow a lot of games, even though i don't play as active and high level anymore. I recently played a couple of games and cheesed my way into NA GM after 2 years of hiatus, but I don't acutally play against the ppl i rank anymore^^


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have fun reading!

DiaBoLuS


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DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6934 Posts
June 25 2019 11:29 GMT
#2
The EU >>>>> Rest of foreign world is really high and I don't see any obvious mistakes in your list on first glance.

I mean, I knew EU is ahead, but wow
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
naughtDE
Profile Blog Joined May 2019
158 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-25 13:47:52
June 25 2019 13:46 GMT
#3
Lets see...

Reynor ↓
Lambo ↓
Elazer ↓
Nerchio ↓
Heromarine ↓
Mana ↑

(one ↓ for one tier ↑)

Hmmm, rating snute but not stephano, was there a tourney I missed? Think we gonna see both back in action in HSC very very soon, I think stephano is more tourney focused, snute more stream focused.

Fantastic list, no major correction I would make.
Neeb also is S Tier in PvZ A+ Tier in PvP and C+ in PvT, good for him that he doesn't face good Terrans too often.
"I'll take [LET IT SNOW] for 800" - Sean Connery (Darrell Hammond)
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
July 01 2019 11:43 GMT
#4
with last tournament, i would slightly tweak A Tier:
4-Special / 5-uthermal / 6-Scarlett / 7-Lambo / 8-Elazer / 9-Heromarine / 10-ShoWTimE / 11-Time

showtime should be higher, but his results don't allow for it. uthermal's #5 is becoming more questionable at this point, for tournament results only. he could easily be A+ Tier

Stephano re-entry --> B+
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
Amarillo Caballero
Profile Joined May 2014
United States72 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-01 16:56:24
July 01 2019 16:56 GMT
#5
I think Special should be in your A+ tier. I think he is clearly better than the others you have in that tier. I also think I would flip flop Uthermal and Elazer. Elazer's good days are really good and Uthermal's good days don't reach that level. Lastly I'd move Has up about 10-12 spots. He's still really good. Really good work though.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
July 03 2019 16:47 GMT
#6
great post. I mostly agree except for small changes
maxgeone
Profile Joined July 2019
1 Post
July 04 2019 09:07 GMT
#7
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KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
August 03 2019 18:58 GMT
#8
Small update after WCG, WCS Summer, ASUS ROG.
Expect a full ranking at the end of August - will be limited to top 30 or 50.

S - Tier
1 - Serral | o

A+ - Tier
2 - Reynor | o

A - Tier
3 - Neeb | - Tier
4 - Special | o
5 - Time | + 5
6 - Showtime | + 1
7 - HeroMarine | +4

A- - Tier
8 - Scarlett | -2, - Tier
9 - Elazer | -1, - Tier
10 - uthermaL | -5, - Tier
11 - Lambo | -2, - Tier

DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
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