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 Zoun and Cure qualify from Korea, Serral and Reynor qualify from Europe, Trigger qualify from the Americas, and Firefly qualify from Asia.The remaining qualification spots for EWC 2025 will be decided through Code S Season 2 (1 spot), BGE Stara Zagora (1 spot), and the online Global Qualifier (4 spots). Korea Qualifier ![[image loading]](/staff/Waxangel/EWC2025/krqualifier.png) Europe Qualifier ![[image loading]](/staff/Waxangel/EWC2025/euqualifier.png) Americas Qualifier ![[image loading]](/staff/Waxangel/EWC2025/amqualifier.png) Asia Qualifier ![[image loading]](/staff/Waxangel/EWC2025/asqualifier.png) 
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Mizenhauer
United States1839 Posts
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tigera6
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dedede
United States62 Posts
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sevengraff
United States8 Posts
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MJG
United Kingdom917 Posts
Do those spots drop further down into the GSL ranks, or are extra seeds offered for tournaments that players qualified via GSL did well in? | ||
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tigera6
3328 Posts
On June 02 2025 15:34 MJG wrote: Do we know how the GSL seeds will work when most of the players at the top end of GSL have already qualified through one of the other qualification routes? Do those spots drop further down into the GSL ranks, or are extra seeds offered for tournaments that players qualified via GSL did well in? According to what I heard during DH Dallas (tie-breaking match if herO beat Maru in Ro8), the spot will drop further down into this GSL final rank. Basically the highest rank among Rogue-Bunny-Gumiho will get the spot. | ||
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luxon
United States111 Posts
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Kreuger
Sweden686 Posts
On June 02 2025 15:55 luxon wrote: is maxpax playing anything this year? DH was in person, and qualifiers have no prize $ so that makes sense, but are there online tourneys with $ that he'll be playing. Also how does it work if someone who qualified already wins another spot (eg herO or clem win another premier), does it go to the next highest placer or is there some play in? Plays all the weeklys atleast. Wardii has some larger online aswell. Other then that I dont know really. | ||
Waxangel
United States33317 Posts
On June 02 2025 15:34 MJG wrote: Do we know how the GSL seeds will work when most of the players at the top end of GSL have already qualified through one of the other qualification routes? Do those spots drop further down into the GSL ranks, or are extra seeds offered for tournaments that players qualified via GSL did well in? Via EWC admin in LP Discord, the seed will roll down to whoever is next in line (they will hold tiebreakers if necessary). | ||
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MJG
United Kingdom917 Posts
On June 02 2025 16:39 Waxangel wrote: Via EWC admin in LP Discord, the seed will roll down to whoever is next in line (they will hold tiebreakers if necessary). I should've just looked at the LP Discord first lmao. Thanks!  | ||
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Harris1st
Germany6860 Posts
EWC is starting to pick up pace Who is missing most in the lineup? Who do you want to have at EWC? I'm hoping for one of my fellow Germans, maybe Astrea and GumiGod! | ||
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dysenterymd
1195 Posts
On June 02 2025 16:39 Waxangel wrote: Via EWC admin in LP Discord, the seed will roll down to whoever is next in line (they will hold tiebreakers if necessary). If it's the same for BGE, with Serral/Reynor/Clem already qualified, fourth place is probably bagging a spot (Zoun/Trigger could make good runs but are already qualified, in which case I guess it would roll down to 5th/6th.) That's probably going to be Showtime, but Lambo/Skillous/Spirit/Reyung have an outside shot. | ||
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PrinCess-Zerg
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Blitzball04
191 Posts
On June 02 2025 18:35 Harris1st wrote: And Bellum Gens right around the corner! EWC is starting to pick up pace Who is missing most in the lineup? Who do you want to have at EWC? I'm hoping for one of my fellow Germans, maybe Astrea and GumiGod! I’m okay with heromarine making it since sometimes he can go on a surprise run Showtime I already given up on any expectation since he always perform exactly as ppl expect him to perform. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland24879 Posts
On June 02 2025 16:39 Waxangel wrote: Via EWC admin in LP Discord, the seed will roll down to whoever is next in line (they will hold tiebreakers if necessary). Just based on this season or both? It bothered me last EWC and how it ended up where players could have identical results in a tournament, but based on what tournament they did it in they’d qualify or not, potentially. At least they didn’t do as much retroactive qualifying spots which I really did not like. At least this time players mostly know what they need to do in advance. | ||
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Antithesis
Germany1146 Posts
Felt bad for Skillous. He tweeted that he did nothing but practice for the past two months, not going out at all, and still failed to qualify. It's sometimes easy to overlook how brutal the SC2 scene, despite its much-bemoaned downscaling, is for anyone but the S-tier pros. Serral walking 13-1 through the qualifier (18-1 when including the open bracket) is effectively a matter of course, indeed someone in the GoaT thread used it to illustrate the comparative lack of competition, while the rest of the field must fight their heart out for the few remaining spots. Creator and ShowTime both got sweeped three maps in a row while on match point in their last respective games. Sort of characteristic for the two, but still surely incredibly frustrating. | ||
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dedede
United States62 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland24879 Posts
On June 03 2025 07:52 Antithesis wrote: Zoun making it through the Korean qualifier first place is doubtlessly the biggest surprise. Felt bad for Skillous. He tweeted that he did nothing but practice for the past two months, not going out at all, and still failed to qualify. It's sometimes easy to overlook how brutal the SC2 scene, despite its much-bemoaned downscaling, is for anyone but the S-tier pros. Serral walking 13-1 through the qualifier (18-1 when including the open bracket) is effectively a matter of course, indeed someone in the GoaT thread used it to illustrate the comparative lack of competition, while the rest of the field must fight their heart out for the few remaining spots. It’s rough, it’s made even rougher by squashing the vast majority of qualification into such a short period. It’s always going to be rough, but at least with more of a season, earning points you can get in by consistently performing and afford one bad day at the office or two. Regulars to the site will know, and are probably sick of me complaining about how EWC is organised, and does qualifying. This year is no exception :p Last year my main gripe was really that different seasons of the same tournaments gave different amounts of slots. And it was done part-retrospectively as well. Some players got slots for Ro4 or whatever one season, others did not in another season. It ended up being quite a minor gripe as ultimately those players qualified anyway in the end, but I do think that was a potential fairness issue. This year, stupid, stupid amount of delay. That as yet I’ve really heard no great explanation for, and the problems that’s causing. Bellum Stara Zagora, great tournament, love to see it, think it’s cool it has that extra prize of EWC dangling. I was very tempted to go but my partner wanted to go to Italy rather than to an SC tournament, how dare she! However, qualifying for that tournament was done in the period of no-information stasis. Some players were inactive, some were keeping ticking over, but not grinding hard. Waiting to see what the future held. Some even forfeited spots. You basically end up with the players who qualified and decided to go to that event, having an extra shot at an EWC qualification. A shot which was not part of the calculation for anyone because at the time it wasn’t a prize being dangled. Heromarine didn’t even play the Europe qualifiers. The Asian qualifier had four players, and Maru apparently played Protoss. Realistically, I don’t think there’s a chance in hell that you don’t get bigger, stronger qualifying competition for that tournament if an EWC ticket is on the line. I might not be interested in the blind date my friend is trying to sell me, if I find out later it was with a supermodel I’d be kicking myself! It depends if they will count back at this tournament as well and award a slot, I don’t actually know if that is the plan for this one. If it is, and with 5/16 of the field already qualified (Zoun, Serral, Clem, Reynor, trigger), it’s entirely possible that a tourney with a weaker field than many gives an EWC slot almost based on brackets and who can either avoid a Serral/Clem, or win a few series. I don’t think that’s a winning combination myself. Also while I don’t like retrospectively awarding direct qualification to tournaments already played, unless they’re one of a series (I.e. two GSL seasons), perhaps some recognition for past tournaments in this interim is due? Masters Colosseum had a really solid field and a decent prize pool, maybe it should award some ranking points? HSC less stacked sure, but maybe Gumiho gets some points for winning that thing instead of nothing. I think some kind of points ranking alleviates another issue. With a straight win your ticket at the event system, the order of who qualifies becomes more important. It’s always somewhat, but it’s more so. Let’s take Serral. Wins a few A/B tier events, his usual high placement elsewhere. Places only top 8 at Dallas, not enough for qualification, so enters the EU qualifiers, then goes to Bellum already qualified. So now we end up in a situation where EU player x who isn’t going to Bellum has to beat Serral to qualify. Whereas EU player y who has merely has to potentially get further than their competition, and hope to avoid those already qualified in the bracket. If we went with some kind of points system, weighted for tournament tier, Serral’s got like a B tier win, an A tier win, some Ro4s, and an S tier Ro8. There’s zero chance unless the way you weighted tournaments was insane that he wouldn’t be qualified for EWC by Dallas. I dunno how I’d fix it minus slightly expanding eligible tournaments and going with more a points-based system. the main problem isn’t formats, it’s months and months without informations You could also still offer direct qualification to EWC from tournament placement alongside points. Just don’t offer the rollback. Whatever the benchmark is, you have to hit it. If a player does, they just qualify and sidestep points. If a player does not, it’s the point ranking. So say, Bellum Stargoza offers a slot for the winner. I’d say, Showtime who’s amongst the best non-qualified there, actually wins it, man send that guy straight to EWC! You’d have to be playing out of your mind to beat the field, especially the Serral/Clem/Reynor field. If a player doesn’t hit that benchmark, do something else with those slots. Stick it into the EU/Global point race, or perhaps if you end up with enough, do some seeded qualifiers with the slots or whatever. Jesus this rant went on and on, I can only apologise! | ||
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JJH777
United States4392 Posts
Though one aspect that was still unclear until very recently is that the seed would just roll down to the highest placing player not already qualified. There were rumors I've seen posted both here and Reddit that slots in that scenario would go to the global qualifier not just roll down in the same event which turned out to be incorrect and I wonder if that impacted players decisions to participate. | ||
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