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Serral wins HomeStory Cup 19 - Page 2

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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-01 07:30:39
July 01 2019 07:27 GMT
#21
On July 01 2019 16:15 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2019 13:39 MockHamill wrote:
Serral is only person on the planet that can improve just by theory crafting. He does not even need opponents.


Well, Dark did say he practiced against the AI in preparation for the GSL finals, so maybe there is something to the idea


Reminds me of how smash pros practice against Lvl 3 AI (very weak), just to hone their combos. If you have a clear idea of some specific target and improving execution thereof, that works fine. Maybe it's enough for Starcraft too.
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Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14461 Posts
July 01 2019 07:30 GMT
#22
On July 01 2019 16:15 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2019 13:39 MockHamill wrote:
Serral is only person on the planet that can improve just by theory crafting. He does not even need opponents.


Well, Dark did say he practiced against the AI in preparation for the GSL finals, so maybe there is something to the idea

INno does it as well!
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DreamOen
Profile Joined March 2010
Spain1400 Posts
July 01 2019 07:37 GMT
#23
it kinda makes me cry T_T. The times of proleague with a lot of teams, and lot of people in EU playing. And players like Puma, Thorzain,MVP, there was a time with a lot of terrans and mid range practice partners, I guess time goes forward and eSports its not like sports where a game stabilizes and grows steadily like football.
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Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13324 Posts
July 01 2019 07:41 GMT
#24
On July 01 2019 16:15 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2019 13:39 MockHamill wrote:
Serral is only person on the planet that can improve just by theory crafting. He does not even need opponents.


Well, Dark did say he practiced against the AI in preparation for the GSL finals, so maybe there is something to the idea

That's how I practiced for my first LRSL finals too. Great minds think alike
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Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
July 01 2019 08:01 GMT
#25
Serral did bleed against Stats and were taken to the brink by TY but he looked incredibly dominant. I missed the games vs Stats but against TY even if it was close score wise in the finals he looked clearly the better player. He is just too good and it doesn't even look like he breaks a sweat. Not a Serral fan but how can anyone stay not a Serral fan
Maru, Bomber, TY, Dear, Classic, DeParture and Rogue!
BjoernK
Profile Joined April 2012
194 Posts
July 01 2019 08:19 GMT
#26
How much money was collected with the donation run for hsc20?
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
July 01 2019 08:23 GMT
#27
On July 01 2019 17:01 Shuffleblade wrote:
Serral did bleed against Stats and were taken to the brink by TY but he looked incredibly dominant. I missed the games vs Stats but against TY even if it was close score wise in the finals he looked clearly the better player. He is just too good and it doesn't even look like he breaks a sweat. Not a Serral fan but how can anyone stay not a Serral fan

It's actually easy when you have some fanboys who make it impossible

Some preivous cases with similar zealous fans - JD, FlasH
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Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
July 01 2019 08:47 GMT
#28
this tournaments always delivers great games. Congrats Serral for taking down some beasts and all the rest for some amazing games. I am looking at you Elazer vs Zest.
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-01 10:11:47
July 01 2019 08:59 GMT
#29
On July 01 2019 17:23 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2019 17:01 Shuffleblade wrote:
Serral did bleed against Stats and were taken to the brink by TY but he looked incredibly dominant. I missed the games vs Stats but against TY even if it was close score wise in the finals he looked clearly the better player. He is just too good and it doesn't even look like he breaks a sweat. Not a Serral fan but how can anyone stay not a Serral fan

It's actually easy when you have some fanboys who make it impossible

Some preivous cases with similar zealous fans - JD, FlasH


I rather enjoy Serral's play and his interviews. He's a solid macro player with a dry sense of humor, doesn't cheese all the time or talk trash. He has great scouting, reactions, and composure. At his strongest he reminds me of Flash in the old days. And he doesn't let it go to his head. I can say very little against Serral the player or Serral the man.

But Serral the avatar as created by the community, the mythical, legendary, godlike outline onto which rabid fanboys project their every dream of personal invincibility–well, not so much. You can't get in a word edgewise. Anything less than sycophantic fawning or unctuous worship draws the ire of a surprising number of people with apparently nothing better to do than patrol every last thread and comment to defend their lord and saviour from the slightest stain on his honor. Which of course then brings in his detractors, and both sides then argue back and forth ad infinitum, on any and every topic related in the slightest way and many that are unrelated at all, until a random passer-by who happened to wander into the Starcraft community could be forgiven for thinking that the name is actually Serralcraft.

WCS? Serral is playing there, better talk about him even though he's in the other qualifier, or on the opposite side of the bracket, or already finished his series, and won't play until next day or week or month.

GSL? Serral should play there against the Koreans and oh by the way here is how I think Serral will perform or win or lose or juggle with his feet while walking on his hands and playing the ukulele.

Tournament results? Well Serral won again, or he wasn't there and he would have won, or he got knocked out due to bad bracket luck and he should have won. Or it's actually Fortnite but yknow Serral would do great there too. And win. Did I mention winning?

Power rankings? Reeee why isn't Serral here instead of there which is obviously the only correct and perfectly objective and absolutely unquestionably right place.

And on, and on, and on, and on. I remind myself that Serral is not responsible for the actions of his obnoxious fans, but even so I struggle not to think worse of him for it, and often wish he'll lose just to silence them. Which is a real shame, because none of it is his fault. It's not unique to Serral, of course. Maru was nearly as bad last year, and the same applied to JD and Flash in their heyday. Still, I would contend that any one player who dictates the flow of almost every conversation related to the game he plays comes at the detriment of the rest of the players and the community.

Anyhow, that's my rant.
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TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
July 01 2019 09:09 GMT
#30
The Replay Pack for anyone who's interested.
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fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4105 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-01 09:11:46
July 01 2019 09:09 GMT
#31
Congratz Serral, but also fantastic showing from Zest and TY. I missed Inno though

+ Show Spoiler +
no smoke without fire tho. Serral's fanbase reacts to those few who go around this forum entering every thread celebrating his victories (which were plenty) just only so they could sell their hurt opinions as facts, meanwhile cautiously ignoring real facts all to turn celebrations into shit throwing contest. Its OK to be a fan of anyone. Even an "overzealos" fan - that happens in every sport. Its not ok to be an anti-fan. In ANY sport. That's just bad taste and lack of social awareness imo.
Drone is a way of living
RatzBarcode
Profile Joined December 2013
United States98 Posts
July 01 2019 09:13 GMT
#32
how did elazer beat solar?
Need
Profile Joined March 2019
566 Posts
July 01 2019 09:19 GMT
#33
On July 01 2019 18:13 RatzBarcode wrote:
how did elazer beat solar?


Reynor beat him too in group stage. Daily practice with Serral does that to your ZvZ
RatzBarcode
Profile Joined December 2013
United States98 Posts
July 01 2019 09:20 GMT
#34
On July 01 2019 12:37 Nakajin wrote:
Great job by Serral, barring a massive patch or meta shift, I'm starting to really beleive in another sweep of GSLvsTW and Blizzcon.

But appart from him I have to say it was an abysmal performance by the rest of the foreing crew: 28-93 in map and 9-40 in match vs koreans. (with almost half the losses beeing on Creator) It really feel like they aren't getting any closer.


There's really 4 tiers of foreigners.

Serral

Neeb, Scarlett, Special, Reynor

uthermal, dns, elazer, etc

rest of NA and EU



digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
July 01 2019 09:21 GMT
#35
HSC is like the GDQ of Starcraft.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
DarkGamer
Profile Joined November 2012
Germany330 Posts
July 01 2019 09:48 GMT
#36
On July 01 2019 12:45 pvsnp wrote:
TY won every game he proxied and lost every game he didn't. Clearly Maru was right all along.

TY also copied Inno's 2base tank push that won WESG (same build, same map, same opponent, same Game 7 decider). But then he chickened out and backed off. And lost.



TY decided to not do the all-in cuz serral countered it perfectly with roach/ravangers. If he would have committed, he would have been crushed.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 01 2019 09:55 GMT
#37
On July 01 2019 18:20 RatzBarcode wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2019 12:37 Nakajin wrote:
Great job by Serral, barring a massive patch or meta shift, I'm starting to really beleive in another sweep of GSLvsTW and Blizzcon.

But appart from him I have to say it was an abysmal performance by the rest of the foreing crew: 28-93 in map and 9-40 in match vs koreans. (with almost half the losses beeing on Creator) It really feel like they aren't getting any closer.


There's really 4 tiers of foreigners.

Serral

Neeb, Scarlett, Special, Reynor

uthermal, dns, elazer, etc

rest of NA and EU




What rest of NA?
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
MajiN1
Profile Joined July 2017
113 Posts
July 01 2019 09:59 GMT
#38
Do we know how much they raise in the end for HSC xx ?
Miralem Ibrahim
Profile Joined April 2019
40 Posts
July 01 2019 10:25 GMT
#39
TY was in good spot but sometimes his defaults didn't allow him to win. He has very good build and various builds. He is very smart but sometimes his execution isn't good enough and his macro to. I think in some moment if you replace him by Innovation just for a few moments he would won this final.

But congrats Serral for this trophy. I think without a balance patch or something like a very big meta switch
Serral will win pretty every big tournament of the of the year he looked very dominant even against top players like soO or TY ( GSL vs the World Asus rog and Blizzcon. )
gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2620 Posts
July 01 2019 10:27 GMT
#40
On July 01 2019 17:59 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2019 17:23 deacon.frost wrote:
On July 01 2019 17:01 Shuffleblade wrote:
Serral did bleed against Stats and were taken to the brink by TY but he looked incredibly dominant. I missed the games vs Stats but against TY even if it was close score wise in the finals he looked clearly the better player. He is just too good and it doesn't even look like he breaks a sweat. Not a Serral fan but how can anyone stay not a Serral fan

It's actually easy when you have some fanboys who make it impossible

Some preivous cases with similar zealous fans - JD, FlasH


I rather enjoy Serral's play and his interviews. He's a solid macro player with a dry sense of humor, doesn't cheese all the time or talk trash. He has great scouting, reactions, and composure. At his strongest he reminds me of Flash in the old days. And he doesn't let it go to his head. I can say very little against Serral the player or Serral the man.

But Serral the avatar as created by the community, the mythical, legendary, godlike outline onto which rabid fanboys project their every dream of personal invincibility–well, not so much. You can't get in a word edgewise. Anything less than sycophantic fawning or unctuous worship draws the ire of a surprising number of people with apparently nothing better to do than patrol every last thread and comment to defend their lord and saviour from the slightest stain on his honor. Which of course then brings in his detractors, and both sides then argue back and forth ad infinitum, on any and every topic related in the slightest way and many that are unrelated at all, until a random passer-by who happened to wander into the Starcraft community could be forgiven for thinking that the name is actually Serralcraft.

WCS? Serral is playing there, better talk about him even though he's in the other qualifier, or on the opposite side of the bracket, or already finished his series, and won't play until next day or week or month.

GSL? Serral should play there against the Koreans and oh by the way here is how I think Serral will perform or win or lose or juggle with his feet while walking on his hands and playing the ukulele.

Tournament results? Well Serral won again, or he wasn't there and he would have won, or he got knocked out due to bad bracket luck and he should have won. Or it's actually Fortnite but yknow Serral would do great there too. And win. Did I mention winning?

Power rankings? Reeee why isn't Serral here instead of there which is obviously the only correct and perfectly objective and absolutely unquestionably right place.

And on, and on, and on, and on. I remind myself that Serral is not responsible for the actions of his obnoxious fans, but even so I struggle not to think worse of him for it, and often wish he'll lose just to silence them. Which is a real shame, because none of it is his fault. It's not unique to Serral, of course. Maru was nearly as bad last year, and the same applied to JD and Flash in their heyday. Still, I would contend that any one player who dictates the flow of almost every conversation related to the game he plays comes at the detriment of the rest of the players and the community.

Anyhow, that's my rant.



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Also for so many other players here that got hyped to the biggest spheres.
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