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INnoVation defeats Serral to win WESG 2018 - Page 3

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StarcraftSquall
Profile Joined December 2018
United States196 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-18 00:42:28
March 18 2019 00:40 GMT
#41
On March 18 2019 08:02 MarianoSC2 wrote:
GJ Inno. Demolished Serral 2 times is a row now. Actually I think he might have broken him mentally. Even though Inno was playing sloppy, Serral was still scared as hell to play macro against him.
Truly the current SC2 Goat 🐐


He beat him, yes, but the last three matches have been razor thin either way. Demolish is not an appropriate word to describe this. Budding rivalry would be better.

It should be noted that Serral was playing sick all week too. Not an opinion he said so himself. And he still pushed Inno to 7 games.

Hey, side note guys: the ASL Finals VOD from yesterday isn’t available due to copyright infringement claim? 😱
Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
March 18 2019 00:41 GMT
#42
Pretty happy that he finally won after all this time. I was so disappointed in 2018 when he didn't make Blizzcon.
DomeGetta
Profile Joined February 2012
480 Posts
March 18 2019 00:53 GMT
#43
On March 18 2019 09:40 StarcraftSquall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2019 08:02 MarianoSC2 wrote:
GJ Inno. Demolished Serral 2 times is a row now. Actually I think he might have broken him mentally. Even though Inno was playing sloppy, Serral was still scared as hell to play macro against him.
Truly the current SC2 Goat 🐐


He beat him, yes, but the last three matches have been razor thin either way. Demolish is not an appropriate word to describe this. Budding rivalry would be better.

It should be noted that Serral was playing sick all week too. Not an opinion he said so himself. And he still pushed Inno to 7 games.

Hey, side note guys: the ASL Finals VOD from yesterday isn’t available due to copyright infringement claim? 😱


Well..it took 3 pages before we got one..which surprised me honestly. you heard it here first boys Inno unfair adv not sick..streak alive.
Mudbuddha13
Profile Joined October 2018
9 Posts
March 18 2019 00:54 GMT
#44
Wish KesPa/gaming houses never disbanded,
i wanna see competitive games like that final every major tournament from every SC2 player foreign or local.




StarcraftSquall
Profile Joined December 2018
United States196 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-18 01:04:50
March 18 2019 01:01 GMT
#45
On March 18 2019 09:53 DomeGetta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2019 09:40 StarcraftSquall wrote:
On March 18 2019 08:02 MarianoSC2 wrote:
GJ Inno. Demolished Serral 2 times is a row now. Actually I think he might have broken him mentally. Even though Inno was playing sloppy, Serral was still scared as hell to play macro against him.
Truly the current SC2 Goat 🐐


He beat him, yes, but the last three matches have been razor thin either way. Demolish is not an appropriate word to describe this. Budding rivalry would be better.

It should be noted that Serral was playing sick all week too. Not an opinion he said so himself. And he still pushed Inno to 7 games.

Hey, side note guys: the ASL Finals VOD from yesterday isn’t available due to copyright infringement claim? 😱


Well..it took 3 pages before we got one..which surprised me honestly. you heard it here first boys Inno unfair adv not sick..streak alive.


I’m not making excuses. Inno played better. But you can’t discount that either. Part of me is wondering if we didn’t just watch the top two players go at it. Right now I have Inno ranked above Serral but do you see anyone else close to either of them?

What I really want to see is the depth of the Circuit catch up to the depth of Korea. I mean right now we can’t predict the GSL but we are pretty sure who the top 4-8 foreign players are. I’d like it to be to the point where it’s at least a 50 50 chance. Other than Serral it feels right now about 80-20 Korea favored. And only a few players can even claim that much.
UnLarva
Profile Joined March 2019
458 Posts
March 18 2019 01:12 GMT
#46
On March 18 2019 09:53 DomeGetta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2019 09:40 StarcraftSquall wrote:
On March 18 2019 08:02 MarianoSC2 wrote:
GJ Inno. Demolished Serral 2 times is a row now. Actually I think he might have broken him mentally. Even though Inno was playing sloppy, Serral was still scared as hell to play macro against him.
Truly the current SC2 Goat 🐐


He beat him, yes, but the last three matches have been razor thin either way. Demolish is not an appropriate word to describe this. Budding rivalry would be better.

It should be noted that Serral was playing sick all week too. Not an opinion he said so himself. And he still pushed Inno to 7 games.

Hey, side note guys: the ASL Finals VOD from yesterday isn’t available due to copyright infringement claim? 😱


Well..it took 3 pages before we got one..which surprised me honestly. you heard it here first boys Inno unfair adv not sick..streak alive.


There was nothing unfair in that final. Serral lost to better player. If he was still suffering from sickness we all can be only thankful he even bothered to come to the tournament and managed play well enough.

If Serral was still sick/not in full health it makes some sense he was wearing three Ence-sponsored shirts, he had to then unwear when pressures began to mount. :D

There have been some 'lentsu' (seasonal flu-virus epidemic as we say in Finnish) around lately in Finland, and when suffering from it currently myself (some 2 weeks and counting) I can very well understand if that may have had some impact to Serral's overall performance. It's not excuse for the loss, but it would've been enough good excuse to skip whole tournament. Of course only if he had really that same virus.
Part-time Serralogist
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
March 18 2019 01:16 GMT
#47
On March 18 2019 09:53 DomeGetta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2019 09:40 StarcraftSquall wrote:
On March 18 2019 08:02 MarianoSC2 wrote:
GJ Inno. Demolished Serral 2 times is a row now. Actually I think he might have broken him mentally. Even though Inno was playing sloppy, Serral was still scared as hell to play macro against him.
Truly the current SC2 Goat 🐐


He beat him, yes, but the last three matches have been razor thin either way. Demolish is not an appropriate word to describe this. Budding rivalry would be better.

It should be noted that Serral was playing sick all week too. Not an opinion he said so himself. And he still pushed Inno to 7 games.

Hey, side note guys: the ASL Finals VOD from yesterday isn’t available due to copyright infringement claim? 😱


Well..it took 3 pages before we got one..which surprised me honestly. you heard it here first boys Inno unfair adv not sick..streak alive.


The point is how Mariano choose to express his happiness in regard of Inno's victory; in a sea of polite and joyous "well played", "eternal champion" etc, we find him insulting Inno's opponent by saying Serral was "destroyed" and "mentally broken".

Such a language would be inappropriate even if the finals would have been a clean 4-0 sweep with Inno playing leagues above Serral and it becomes clearly offensive considering the series went to the full seven games(with Serral even winning the macro game, unlike it happened at IEM the last time they faced).

Mariano is becoming like Rodya, feeling the need to convince us the warped reality he perceives is indeed the truth.
Doko
Profile Joined May 2010
Argentina1737 Posts
March 18 2019 01:24 GMT
#48
Inno was the better player, but I'd say inno was closer to his peak performance than what I think serral can achieve with more practice, serral's ZvT just doesn't look as sharp has his other matchups, but we know he's capable of more, and I'm not even talking about about him being ill, just his raw potential.
StarcraftSquall
Profile Joined December 2018
United States196 Posts
March 18 2019 01:50 GMT
#49
On March 18 2019 10:24 Doko wrote:
Inno was the better player, but I'd say inno was closer to his peak performance than what I think serral can achieve with more practice, serral's ZvT just doesn't look as sharp has his other matchups, but we know he's capable of more, and I'm not even talking about about him being ill, just his raw potential.


To be fair, there’s not a whole lot of quality ZvT practice in his region... Maybe he’ll be more motivated to try a GSL after this? One can hope 😉
DomeGetta
Profile Joined February 2012
480 Posts
March 18 2019 02:25 GMT
#50
On March 18 2019 10:16 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2019 09:53 DomeGetta wrote:
On March 18 2019 09:40 StarcraftSquall wrote:
On March 18 2019 08:02 MarianoSC2 wrote:
GJ Inno. Demolished Serral 2 times is a row now. Actually I think he might have broken him mentally. Even though Inno was playing sloppy, Serral was still scared as hell to play macro against him.
Truly the current SC2 Goat 🐐


He beat him, yes, but the last three matches have been razor thin either way. Demolish is not an appropriate word to describe this. Budding rivalry would be better.

It should be noted that Serral was playing sick all week too. Not an opinion he said so himself. And he still pushed Inno to 7 games.

Hey, side note guys: the ASL Finals VOD from yesterday isn’t available due to copyright infringement claim? 😱


Well..it took 3 pages before we got one..which surprised me honestly. you heard it here first boys Inno unfair adv not sick..streak alive.


The point is how Mariano choose to express his happiness in regard of Inno's victory; in a sea of polite and joyous "well played", "eternal champion" etc, we find him insulting Inno's opponent by saying Serral was "destroyed" and "mentally broken".

Such a language would be inappropriate even if the finals would have been a clean 4-0 sweep with Inno playing leagues above Serral and it becomes clearly offensive considering the series went to the full seven games(with Serral even winning the macro game, unlike it happened at IEM the last time they faced).

Mariano is becoming like Rodya, feeling the need to convince us the warped reality he perceives is indeed the truth.


Yah not upvoting his post..pretty obvious bait there...just downvoting any extra reasons..other than inno played out of his mind to earn the win. Obv was a super close tight series that could have went either way..anyone saying otherwise is just mad for some reason.
nadavu
Profile Joined February 2014
44 Posts
March 18 2019 02:37 GMT
#51
On March 18 2019 08:02 MarianoSC2 wrote:
GJ Inno. Demolished Serral 2 times is a row now. Actually I think he might have broken him mentally. Even though Inno was playing sloppy, Serral was still scared as hell to play macro against him.
Truly the current SC2 Goat 🐐


The only broken mentality here is yours, apparently.
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
March 18 2019 03:03 GMT
#52
Great matchup by two great players. Not sure how this can be interpreted any other way. GJ Inno!
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
NinjaNight
Profile Joined January 2018
428 Posts
March 18 2019 03:54 GMT
#53
Can we all just acknowledge that soO is the greatest player in the world? He was dominating Innovation over and over on the ladder the day of and night before the Inno vs Serral final. And he defeated Serral at IEM to go on and win that tournament.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-18 04:09:59
March 18 2019 04:09 GMT
#54
On March 18 2019 12:54 NinjaNight wrote:
Can we all just acknowledge that soO is the greatest player in the world? He was dominating Innovation over and over on the ladder the day of and night before the Inno vs Serral final. And he defeated Serral at IEM to go on and win that tournament.


Rogue, who defeated soO twice in GSL, is clearly the greatest player in the world.
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
RealityTheGreat
Profile Joined January 2018
China564 Posts
March 18 2019 05:00 GMT
#55
Just like Innovation in the end of WoL.
Parade push go!
Betrayed, forgotten, abandoned.
pzlama333
Profile Joined April 2013
United States277 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-18 05:37:06
March 18 2019 05:27 GMT
#56
Innovation's eye tracker vod:


Scarlet's eye tracker against Serral (start around 1:31:00):
RealityTheGreat
Profile Joined January 2018
China564 Posts
March 18 2019 05:30 GMT
#57
Innovation is still unofficial world champion
Betrayed, forgotten, abandoned.
ThunderJunk
Profile Joined December 2015
United States699 Posts
March 18 2019 06:36 GMT
#58
I honestly don't think any other Terran could have defeated Serral in a Bo7 at this point. Innovation's style is perfectly suited to it. Amazing games.
I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do.
Mountain_Lee
Profile Joined January 2018
87 Posts
March 18 2019 06:40 GMT
#59
On March 18 2019 10:12 UnLarva wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2019 09:53 DomeGetta wrote:
On March 18 2019 09:40 StarcraftSquall wrote:
On March 18 2019 08:02 MarianoSC2 wrote:
GJ Inno. Demolished Serral 2 times is a row now. Actually I think he might have broken him mentally. Even though Inno was playing sloppy, Serral was still scared as hell to play macro against him.
Truly the current SC2 Goat 🐐


He beat him, yes, but the last three matches have been razor thin either way. Demolish is not an appropriate word to describe this. Budding rivalry would be better.

It should be noted that Serral was playing sick all week too. Not an opinion he said so himself. And he still pushed Inno to 7 games.

Hey, side note guys: the ASL Finals VOD from yesterday isn’t available due to copyright infringement claim? 😱


Well..it took 3 pages before we got one..which surprised me honestly. you heard it here first boys Inno unfair adv not sick..streak alive.


There was nothing unfair in that final. Serral lost to better player. If he was still suffering from sickness we all can be only thankful he even bothered to come to the tournament and managed play well enough.

If Serral was still sick/not in full health it makes some sense he was wearing three Ence-sponsored shirts, he had to then unwear when pressures began to mount. :D

There have been some 'lentsu' (seasonal flu-virus epidemic as we say in Finnish) around lately in Finland, and when suffering from it currently myself (some 2 weeks and counting) I can very well understand if that may have had some impact to Serral's overall performance. It's not excuse for the loss, but it would've been enough good excuse to skip whole tournament. Of course only if he had really that same virus.



chongqing was really cold
narusensei22
Profile Joined October 2018
31 Posts
March 18 2019 07:20 GMT
#60
On March 18 2019 10:01 StarcraftSquall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2019 09:53 DomeGetta wrote:
On March 18 2019 09:40 StarcraftSquall wrote:
On March 18 2019 08:02 MarianoSC2 wrote:
GJ Inno. Demolished Serral 2 times is a row now. Actually I think he might have broken him mentally. Even though Inno was playing sloppy, Serral was still scared as hell to play macro against him.
Truly the current SC2 Goat 🐐


He beat him, yes, but the last three matches have been razor thin either way. Demolish is not an appropriate word to describe this. Budding rivalry would be better.

It should be noted that Serral was playing sick all week too. Not an opinion he said so himself. And he still pushed Inno to 7 games.

Hey, side note guys: the ASL Finals VOD from yesterday isn’t available due to copyright infringement claim? 😱


Well..it took 3 pages before we got one..which surprised me honestly. you heard it here first boys Inno unfair adv not sick..streak alive.


I’m not making excuses. Inno played better. But you can’t discount that either. Part of me is wondering if we didn’t just watch the top two players go at it. Right now I have Inno ranked above Serral but do you see anyone else close to either of them?

What I really want to see is the depth of the Circuit catch up to the depth of Korea. I mean right now we can’t predict the GSL but we are pretty sure who the top 4-8 foreign players are. I’d like it to be to the point where it’s at least a 50 50 chance. Other than Serral it feels right now about 80-20 Korea favored. And only a few players can even claim that much.


Close to either of them... Yes soO defeated both of them in IEM and GSL. And there are tons of players in Korea who can take down Serral and Inno.
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