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inno can take all of them. i believe
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On March 15 2019 02:52 Waxangel wrote:
If we could make a Rodya-signal to shine into the sky, what do you think the image should be of? Maybe the Korean flag?
Regardless, a truly sick top four card, and a hyped finals guaranteed whichever way it goes.
it should be a joker card with mirrors on both side, on one side is rodya, and the other side is dave
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On March 15 2019 02:52 Waxangel wrote:
If we could make a Rodya-signal to shine into the sky, what do you think the image should be of? Maybe the Korean flag?
Regardless, a truly sick top four card, and a hyped finals guaranteed whichever way it goes.
Amazing idea! I think there must be an eagle involved as it is the Terran race icon, maybe painted as the Korean flag.
I like Fishije's suggestion, Dave's side would have the Zerg icon with USA's flag(?) colours.
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On March 14 2019 23:45 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2019 23:41 TheDougler wrote:
It honestly doesn’t get much better than this. It does. You could have the same scenario at a tournament that actually gets attention
It would be the sickest turn of event if we finally get the Maru vs Serral matchup we've all been waiting for -- but Rapid will be casting it.
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On March 15 2019 02:30 fishjie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2019 01:04 Xain0n wrote:On March 15 2019 00:39 fishjie wrote:
maru vs serral will be sick. hope maru will win, cause otherwise the insufferable serral fans boys like dave will be popping off and demanding that the bullying of serral stop (see power rank thread). i'm also ok with scarlett winning that'd be awesome too, there are no insufferable scarlett fan boys Noo, not really. Maru winning would result in Maru being canonized with every single Serral's accomplishment being diminished("you see? He only won because he dodged Maru, that foreigner scrub"); Inno winning is somehow better even if that would crown him GOAT in the eyes of his fans. not really, serral already proved himself best player in 2018 period, and i hate serral fanboys with a passion. its pretty much not open for debate. GSL vs the world, and then at blizzcon - he murdered all the korean competition. what i'm annoyed with is the hyperbole. serrals stats are inflated by being protected from region lock. he'd still have been best in 2018, but have that kind of record if no region lock? nah.
No he didn't. He didn't beat a single top 3 Terran. He also didn't have a single series win while playing on the wrong side of an imbalanced match up.
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As a Maru fan I hope he wins it all, but he has been looking shaky, especially against zerg. He was playing on ladder against Soo a day ago, and he felt frustrated that he could not do anything but defend. Also innovation has a good shot against him.
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TvZ in the finals and the 3rd place match - wonderful
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On March 15 2019 03:08 Boggyb wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2019 02:30 fishjie wrote:On March 15 2019 01:04 Xain0n wrote:On March 15 2019 00:39 fishjie wrote:
maru vs serral will be sick. hope maru will win, cause otherwise the insufferable serral fans boys like dave will be popping off and demanding that the bullying of serral stop (see power rank thread). i'm also ok with scarlett winning that'd be awesome too, there are no insufferable scarlett fan boys Noo, not really. Maru winning would result in Maru being canonized with every single Serral's accomplishment being diminished("you see? He only won because he dodged Maru, that foreigner scrub"); Inno winning is somehow better even if that would crown him GOAT in the eyes of his fans. not really, serral already proved himself best player in 2018 period, and i hate serral fanboys with a passion. its pretty much not open for debate. GSL vs the world, and then at blizzcon - he murdered all the korean competition. what i'm annoyed with is the hyperbole. serrals stats are inflated by being protected from region lock. he'd still have been best in 2018, but have that kind of record if no region lock? nah. No he didn't. He didn't beat a single top 3 Terran. He also didn't have a single series win while playing on the wrong side of an imbalanced match up.
This is exactly what I meant.
Let me inform you, Boggyb, that Serral didn't beat any top 3 Terran(a statement that could be contested as Gumiho being ahead of Innovation at the time HSC XVIII happened is a very dubious claim) because he did not face them; we are obviously speaking of what happened AFTER 4.30 BU, when Serral rose to prominence.
Serral didn't actively dodge Terran, he just only got to play a bo1 against Maru at GSL vs the World, which he won.
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On March 15 2019 03:17 Xain0n wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2019 03:08 Boggyb wrote:On March 15 2019 02:30 fishjie wrote:On March 15 2019 01:04 Xain0n wrote:On March 15 2019 00:39 fishjie wrote:
maru vs serral will be sick. hope maru will win, cause otherwise the insufferable serral fans boys like dave will be popping off and demanding that the bullying of serral stop (see power rank thread). i'm also ok with scarlett winning that'd be awesome too, there are no insufferable scarlett fan boys Noo, not really. Maru winning would result in Maru being canonized with every single Serral's accomplishment being diminished("you see? He only won because he dodged Maru, that foreigner scrub"); Inno winning is somehow better even if that would crown him GOAT in the eyes of his fans. not really, serral already proved himself best player in 2018 period, and i hate serral fanboys with a passion. its pretty much not open for debate. GSL vs the world, and then at blizzcon - he murdered all the korean competition. what i'm annoyed with is the hyperbole. serrals stats are inflated by being protected from region lock. he'd still have been best in 2018, but have that kind of record if no region lock? nah. No he didn't. He didn't beat a single top 3 Terran. He also didn't have a single series win while playing on the wrong side of an imbalanced match up. This is exactly what I meant. Let me inform you, Boggyb, that Serral didn't beat any top 3 Terran(a statement that could be contested as Gumiho being ahead of Innovation at the time HSC XVIII happened is a very dubious claim) because he did not face them; we are obviously speaking of what happened AFTER 4.30 BU, when Serral rose to prominence. Serral didn't actively dodge Terran, he just only got to play a bo1 against Maru at GSL vs the World, which he won.
He beat Inno at GSL vs the World 3-0.
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Hoping for a Scarlett vs Innovation finals, since they are two of my favourite players, and then we get that Maru-Serral for third! More seriously, I can see Scarlett upsetting Serral in a close 3-2, but I think beating Maru/Inno might be too much, though everything is possible. So imo: Serral >= Maru > Inno > Scarlett.
I Like these 4 players, so whatever its the outcome it will be good.
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On March 15 2019 03:38 Pursuit_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2019 03:17 Xain0n wrote:On March 15 2019 03:08 Boggyb wrote:On March 15 2019 02:30 fishjie wrote:On March 15 2019 01:04 Xain0n wrote:On March 15 2019 00:39 fishjie wrote:
maru vs serral will be sick. hope maru will win, cause otherwise the insufferable serral fans boys like dave will be popping off and demanding that the bullying of serral stop (see power rank thread). i'm also ok with scarlett winning that'd be awesome too, there are no insufferable scarlett fan boys Noo, not really. Maru winning would result in Maru being canonized with every single Serral's accomplishment being diminished("you see? He only won because he dodged Maru, that foreigner scrub"); Inno winning is somehow better even if that would crown him GOAT in the eyes of his fans. not really, serral already proved himself best player in 2018 period, and i hate serral fanboys with a passion. its pretty much not open for debate. GSL vs the world, and then at blizzcon - he murdered all the korean competition. what i'm annoyed with is the hyperbole. serrals stats are inflated by being protected from region lock. he'd still have been best in 2018, but have that kind of record if no region lock? nah. No he didn't. He didn't beat a single top 3 Terran. He also didn't have a single series win while playing on the wrong side of an imbalanced match up. This is exactly what I meant. Let me inform you, Boggyb, that Serral didn't beat any top 3 Terran(a statement that could be contested as Gumiho being ahead of Innovation at the time HSC XVIII happened is a very dubious claim) because he did not face them; we are obviously speaking of what happened AFTER 4.30 BU, when Serral rose to prominence. Serral didn't actively dodge Terran, he just only got to play a bo1 against Maru at GSL vs the World, which he won. He beat Inno at GSL vs the World 3-0.
That's true, but Inno couldn't be considered a top 3 Terran at the time considering his results.
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On March 15 2019 03:38 Pursuit_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2019 03:17 Xain0n wrote:On March 15 2019 03:08 Boggyb wrote:On March 15 2019 02:30 fishjie wrote:On March 15 2019 01:04 Xain0n wrote:On March 15 2019 00:39 fishjie wrote:
maru vs serral will be sick. hope maru will win, cause otherwise the insufferable serral fans boys like dave will be popping off and demanding that the bullying of serral stop (see power rank thread). i'm also ok with scarlett winning that'd be awesome too, there are no insufferable scarlett fan boys Noo, not really. Maru winning would result in Maru being canonized with every single Serral's accomplishment being diminished("you see? He only won because he dodged Maru, that foreigner scrub"); Inno winning is somehow better even if that would crown him GOAT in the eyes of his fans. not really, serral already proved himself best player in 2018 period, and i hate serral fanboys with a passion. its pretty much not open for debate. GSL vs the world, and then at blizzcon - he murdered all the korean competition. what i'm annoyed with is the hyperbole. serrals stats are inflated by being protected from region lock. he'd still have been best in 2018, but have that kind of record if no region lock? nah. No he didn't. He didn't beat a single top 3 Terran. He also didn't have a single series win while playing on the wrong side of an imbalanced match up. This is exactly what I meant. Let me inform you, Boggyb, that Serral didn't beat any top 3 Terran(a statement that could be contested as Gumiho being ahead of Innovation at the time HSC XVIII happened is a very dubious claim) because he did not face them; we are obviously speaking of what happened AFTER 4.30 BU, when Serral rose to prominence. Serral didn't actively dodge Terran, he just only got to play a bo1 against Maru at GSL vs the World, which he won. He beat Inno at GSL vs the World 3-0.
He also lost to Maru 0-3 at Wesg which everyone seems to convienantly forget.
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On March 15 2019 03:42 DomeGetta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2019 03:38 Pursuit_ wrote:On March 15 2019 03:17 Xain0n wrote:On March 15 2019 03:08 Boggyb wrote:On March 15 2019 02:30 fishjie wrote:On March 15 2019 01:04 Xain0n wrote:On March 15 2019 00:39 fishjie wrote:
maru vs serral will be sick. hope maru will win, cause otherwise the insufferable serral fans boys like dave will be popping off and demanding that the bullying of serral stop (see power rank thread). i'm also ok with scarlett winning that'd be awesome too, there are no insufferable scarlett fan boys Noo, not really. Maru winning would result in Maru being canonized with every single Serral's accomplishment being diminished("you see? He only won because he dodged Maru, that foreigner scrub"); Inno winning is somehow better even if that would crown him GOAT in the eyes of his fans. not really, serral already proved himself best player in 2018 period, and i hate serral fanboys with a passion. its pretty much not open for debate. GSL vs the world, and then at blizzcon - he murdered all the korean competition. what i'm annoyed with is the hyperbole. serrals stats are inflated by being protected from region lock. he'd still have been best in 2018, but have that kind of record if no region lock? nah. No he didn't. He didn't beat a single top 3 Terran. He also didn't have a single series win while playing on the wrong side of an imbalanced match up. This is exactly what I meant. Let me inform you, Boggyb, that Serral didn't beat any top 3 Terran(a statement that could be contested as Gumiho being ahead of Innovation at the time HSC XVIII happened is a very dubious claim) because he did not face them; we are obviously speaking of what happened AFTER 4.30 BU, when Serral rose to prominence. Serral didn't actively dodge Terran, he just only got to play a bo1 against Maru at GSL vs the World, which he won. He beat Inno at GSL vs the World 3-0. He also lost to Maru 0-3 at Wesg which everyone seems to convienantly forget.
Nobody forgets. Maru was the best when it happened while Serral wasn't at his best yet, it's easy; everything I have been discussing of takes into consideration that Serral became a player capable of beating top koreans in Premier tournament finals at a certain point between April and August and he started dominating the global scene after GSL vs the World.
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The funny thing is, even if Maru or Serral 4-0s the other literally nobody's mind will change about anything, and goalpost-moving and rationalizing will still be going on strong.
EDIT: On a different note, are we getting player interviews at the semis or grand finals? It'd truly be a shame if once the games end it just goes back to the casters saying "thanks for watching!"
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On March 15 2019 03:46 Xain0n wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2019 03:42 DomeGetta wrote:On March 15 2019 03:38 Pursuit_ wrote:On March 15 2019 03:17 Xain0n wrote:On March 15 2019 03:08 Boggyb wrote:On March 15 2019 02:30 fishjie wrote:On March 15 2019 01:04 Xain0n wrote:On March 15 2019 00:39 fishjie wrote:
maru vs serral will be sick. hope maru will win, cause otherwise the insufferable serral fans boys like dave will be popping off and demanding that the bullying of serral stop (see power rank thread). i'm also ok with scarlett winning that'd be awesome too, there are no insufferable scarlett fan boys Noo, not really. Maru winning would result in Maru being canonized with every single Serral's accomplishment being diminished("you see? He only won because he dodged Maru, that foreigner scrub"); Inno winning is somehow better even if that would crown him GOAT in the eyes of his fans. not really, serral already proved himself best player in 2018 period, and i hate serral fanboys with a passion. its pretty much not open for debate. GSL vs the world, and then at blizzcon - he murdered all the korean competition. what i'm annoyed with is the hyperbole. serrals stats are inflated by being protected from region lock. he'd still have been best in 2018, but have that kind of record if no region lock? nah. No he didn't. He didn't beat a single top 3 Terran. He also didn't have a single series win while playing on the wrong side of an imbalanced match up. This is exactly what I meant. Let me inform you, Boggyb, that Serral didn't beat any top 3 Terran(a statement that could be contested as Gumiho being ahead of Innovation at the time HSC XVIII happened is a very dubious claim) because he did not face them; we are obviously speaking of what happened AFTER 4.30 BU, when Serral rose to prominence. Serral didn't actively dodge Terran, he just only got to play a bo1 against Maru at GSL vs the World, which he won. He beat Inno at GSL vs the World 3-0. He also lost to Maru 0-3 at Wesg which everyone seems to convienantly forget. Nobody forgets. Maru was the best when it happened while Serral wasn't at his best yet, it's easy; everything I have been discussing of takes into consideration that Serral became a player capable of beating top koreans in Premier tournament finals at a certain point between April and August and he started dominating after GSL vs the World.
Ok but the assertion that was made was that Serral was hands down the best player of 2018..not May to December. When u line up achievements on both sides to me it still seems that has to be Maru and by a good margin. Not ignoring 4 wcs not ignoring blizzcon..3 gsls is still more difficult forget about wesg and even the 3 to 1 head to head mapscore.
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On March 15 2019 03:50 DomeGetta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2019 03:46 Xain0n wrote:On March 15 2019 03:42 DomeGetta wrote:On March 15 2019 03:38 Pursuit_ wrote:On March 15 2019 03:17 Xain0n wrote:On March 15 2019 03:08 Boggyb wrote:On March 15 2019 02:30 fishjie wrote:On March 15 2019 01:04 Xain0n wrote:On March 15 2019 00:39 fishjie wrote:
maru vs serral will be sick. hope maru will win, cause otherwise the insufferable serral fans boys like dave will be popping off and demanding that the bullying of serral stop (see power rank thread). i'm also ok with scarlett winning that'd be awesome too, there are no insufferable scarlett fan boys Noo, not really. Maru winning would result in Maru being canonized with every single Serral's accomplishment being diminished("you see? He only won because he dodged Maru, that foreigner scrub"); Inno winning is somehow better even if that would crown him GOAT in the eyes of his fans. not really, serral already proved himself best player in 2018 period, and i hate serral fanboys with a passion. its pretty much not open for debate. GSL vs the world, and then at blizzcon - he murdered all the korean competition. what i'm annoyed with is the hyperbole. serrals stats are inflated by being protected from region lock. he'd still have been best in 2018, but have that kind of record if no region lock? nah. No he didn't. He didn't beat a single top 3 Terran. He also didn't have a single series win while playing on the wrong side of an imbalanced match up. This is exactly what I meant. Let me inform you, Boggyb, that Serral didn't beat any top 3 Terran(a statement that could be contested as Gumiho being ahead of Innovation at the time HSC XVIII happened is a very dubious claim) because he did not face them; we are obviously speaking of what happened AFTER 4.30 BU, when Serral rose to prominence. Serral didn't actively dodge Terran, he just only got to play a bo1 against Maru at GSL vs the World, which he won. He beat Inno at GSL vs the World 3-0. He also lost to Maru 0-3 at Wesg which everyone seems to convienantly forget. Nobody forgets. Maru was the best when it happened while Serral wasn't at his best yet, it's easy; everything I have been discussing of takes into consideration that Serral became a player capable of beating top koreans in Premier tournament finals at a certain point between April and August and he started dominating after GSL vs the World. Ok but the assertion that was made was that Serral was hands down the best player of 2018..not May to December. When u line up achievements on both sides to me it still seems that has to be Maru and by a good margin. Not ignoring 4 wcs not ignoring blizzcon..3 gsls is still more difficult forget about wesg and even the 3 to 1 head to head mapscore.
It's the opinion of many(mine and TL writers' too, most likely of the majority of the people on this site according to the polls) that after weighting all the respective accomplishments, Serral had the best year; you are forgetting both GSL vs the World and HSC, how to rate WCS compared to Code S is the key and it's hard to agree on that.
Serral's advantage is slight in any of case, Maru's year was definitely one of the best in sc2's history.
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On March 15 2019 03:54 Xain0n wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2019 03:50 DomeGetta wrote:On March 15 2019 03:46 Xain0n wrote:On March 15 2019 03:42 DomeGetta wrote:On March 15 2019 03:38 Pursuit_ wrote:On March 15 2019 03:17 Xain0n wrote:On March 15 2019 03:08 Boggyb wrote:On March 15 2019 02:30 fishjie wrote:On March 15 2019 01:04 Xain0n wrote:On March 15 2019 00:39 fishjie wrote:
maru vs serral will be sick. hope maru will win, cause otherwise the insufferable serral fans boys like dave will be popping off and demanding that the bullying of serral stop (see power rank thread). i'm also ok with scarlett winning that'd be awesome too, there are no insufferable scarlett fan boys Noo, not really. Maru winning would result in Maru being canonized with every single Serral's accomplishment being diminished("you see? He only won because he dodged Maru, that foreigner scrub"); Inno winning is somehow better even if that would crown him GOAT in the eyes of his fans. not really, serral already proved himself best player in 2018 period, and i hate serral fanboys with a passion. its pretty much not open for debate. GSL vs the world, and then at blizzcon - he murdered all the korean competition. what i'm annoyed with is the hyperbole. serrals stats are inflated by being protected from region lock. he'd still have been best in 2018, but have that kind of record if no region lock? nah. No he didn't. He didn't beat a single top 3 Terran. He also didn't have a single series win while playing on the wrong side of an imbalanced match up. This is exactly what I meant. Let me inform you, Boggyb, that Serral didn't beat any top 3 Terran(a statement that could be contested as Gumiho being ahead of Innovation at the time HSC XVIII happened is a very dubious claim) because he did not face them; we are obviously speaking of what happened AFTER 4.30 BU, when Serral rose to prominence. Serral didn't actively dodge Terran, he just only got to play a bo1 against Maru at GSL vs the World, which he won. He beat Inno at GSL vs the World 3-0. He also lost to Maru 0-3 at Wesg which everyone seems to convienantly forget. Nobody forgets. Maru was the best when it happened while Serral wasn't at his best yet, it's easy; everything I have been discussing of takes into consideration that Serral became a player capable of beating top koreans in Premier tournament finals at a certain point between April and August and he started dominating after GSL vs the World. Ok but the assertion that was made was that Serral was hands down the best player of 2018..not May to December. When u line up achievements on both sides to me it still seems that has to be Maru and by a good margin. Not ignoring 4 wcs not ignoring blizzcon..3 gsls is still more difficult forget about wesg and even the 3 to 1 head to head mapscore. It's the opinion of many(mine and TL writers' too) that after weighting all the respective accomplishments, Serral had the best year.
Respect ur opinion and the TL writers as well but obviously disagree. Implying that its not debatable would be foolish on either end.
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On March 15 2019 02:29 Xain0n wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2019 02:21 Poopi wrote:On March 15 2019 02:18 StasisField wrote:On March 15 2019 02:02 Fango wrote:On March 15 2019 01:08 Xain0n wrote:On March 15 2019 01:05 Sweetfrost wrote:On March 15 2019 00:45 Majick wrote:It doesn't matter if we get Serral/Maru final or not. Nobody will be satisfied with the outcome anyway. If Maru wins it will be because Serral was sick. If Serral wins it will be because Maru doesn't care about non-Korean events. And if they face each other in a 3rd place match, the loser will be justified as not caring about 3rd place match, obviously. There is no point in watching this tournament anymore. Everything is pointless. + Show Spoiler +
btw if you didn't realize yet, soO is still a Kong, because his win at IEM wasn't a Korean league.
Even if he does not care for non Korean events I'm pretty sure Maru likes money, so that would be a very bad argument if he were to lose a hypothetical grand final vs Serral. BlizzCon was almost twice IEM's prize and people still said Maru didn't care. Can you find an actual post of someone saying Maru didn't care about blizzcon? He literally said at the start of last year his goal was to win 3xCode S and blizzcon money shouldnt be the reason a tourment is a premier its the quailtie of the players that should count more the title of a premier event. This was said just the other day On March 14 2019 00:32 deacon.frost wrote:On March 14 2019 00:24 Xain0n wrote:On March 14 2019 00:01 Fango wrote:On March 13 2019 23:42 Amarillo Caballero wrote:On March 13 2019 23:32 MarianoSC2 wrote:On March 13 2019 22:58 Harris1st wrote:The amount of excuses made up for Maru's loses is now officially higher than Mount Everest  Do you think its even higher then the amount of bullcrap with which serral fans try to justify serral loses? Yes, much much higher. I have never once seen anyone claim that "Serral doesn't try in xxx games" People were literally saying that when he lost to INno at IEM the other week. And it's not just Maru's fans saying it either. It started because Maru himself said he didn't practice for the smaller events and took them as a break. BlizzCon and IEM, those irrelevant tournaments! The only loss Serral suffered that might be due to him actually not trying is the online 0-3 against Neeb right before BlizzCon, his level of play in that tournament was really weird considering the godlike Starcraft he played shortly after; Serral had two korean Protoss in his group… As for Serral's loss against Inno, I wouldn't say he did not try but it's a fact that the match became irrelevant after Serral won the first map; what I strongly adversed was the idea those losses necessarily implied Serral's lategame ZvT being bad and Inno being favored once the games reach this stage. Inno played better those last two maps and rightfully won ; it's to be seen if he can manage to do it on a regular basis. Speaking of soO vs Serral, I said Serral might have even looked a little better than soO mechanically on average during the series(very onesided victories and one incredibly hard comeback almost taken home in g3); however, soO's decision making was better and he committed less errors, let alone devastating ones like Serral's utter fail into gg in g2, totally deserving his victory. I don't see how this opinion can be summarized into "Serral played better and no one knows how he lost". The last one at WESG is pretty self explanatory: Serral might have been sick but that's not unlike not being in shape, Neeb won convincingly, gg to him. Don't force your view on Maru. Winning a home tournament where everyone has the time to prepare may be more important than Blizzcon for him. Similarly to the Proleague title(which was valued very highly). Edit> Also moar excuses about Serral loses Apparently, Maru lost at Blizzcon, which he had 5 weeks to prep for, because he cares about the GSL more, which had already concluded. Well the smiley from his post doesn't help your case, he is blatantly trolling/baiting. The smiley is at the end of another phrase, the one regarding my "excuses" for Serral's recent defeats. HSC XVIII wasn't technically a Premier because the first place was rewarded with 8k instead of 10k; Inno reaching the finals should be of some relevance nevertheless. Excluding Code S and WESG doesn't seem like cherrypicking a little? There were no Terran in the finals at GSL the World, BlizzCon and IEM, ok; Terran seems fine overall.
a premier shouldnt be the size of the prize pool should be teh quailtie of the players
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On March 15 2019 03:50 DomeGetta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2019 03:46 Xain0n wrote:On March 15 2019 03:42 DomeGetta wrote:On March 15 2019 03:38 Pursuit_ wrote:On March 15 2019 03:17 Xain0n wrote:On March 15 2019 03:08 Boggyb wrote:On March 15 2019 02:30 fishjie wrote:On March 15 2019 01:04 Xain0n wrote:On March 15 2019 00:39 fishjie wrote:
maru vs serral will be sick. hope maru will win, cause otherwise the insufferable serral fans boys like dave will be popping off and demanding that the bullying of serral stop (see power rank thread). i'm also ok with scarlett winning that'd be awesome too, there are no insufferable scarlett fan boys Noo, not really. Maru winning would result in Maru being canonized with every single Serral's accomplishment being diminished("you see? He only won because he dodged Maru, that foreigner scrub"); Inno winning is somehow better even if that would crown him GOAT in the eyes of his fans. not really, serral already proved himself best player in 2018 period, and i hate serral fanboys with a passion. its pretty much not open for debate. GSL vs the world, and then at blizzcon - he murdered all the korean competition. what i'm annoyed with is the hyperbole. serrals stats are inflated by being protected from region lock. he'd still have been best in 2018, but have that kind of record if no region lock? nah. No he didn't. He didn't beat a single top 3 Terran. He also didn't have a single series win while playing on the wrong side of an imbalanced match up. This is exactly what I meant. Let me inform you, Boggyb, that Serral didn't beat any top 3 Terran(a statement that could be contested as Gumiho being ahead of Innovation at the time HSC XVIII happened is a very dubious claim) because he did not face them; we are obviously speaking of what happened AFTER 4.30 BU, when Serral rose to prominence. Serral didn't actively dodge Terran, he just only got to play a bo1 against Maru at GSL vs the World, which he won. He beat Inno at GSL vs the World 3-0. He also lost to Maru 0-3 at Wesg which everyone seems to convienantly forget. Nobody forgets. Maru was the best when it happened while Serral wasn't at his best yet, it's easy; everything I have been discussing of takes into consideration that Serral became a player capable of beating top koreans in Premier tournament finals at a certain point between April and August and he started dominating after GSL vs the World. Ok but the assertion that was made was that Serral was hands down the best player of 2018..not May to December. When u line up achievements on both sides to me it still seems that has to be Maru and by a good margin. Not ignoring 4 wcs not ignoring blizzcon..3 gsls is still more difficult forget about wesg and even the 3 to 1 head to head mapscore.
To emphasize your point: May as starting point of Serral's dominance is a bold assumption since he only proved his capability of winning vs toughest competition in august. Also, since he wasn't playing Maru (nobody's fault) he wasn't solely dominant for quite some time with Maru dominating GSLs before and after GSL vs The World.
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Scarlett was the only player who managed to consistently make Serral look mortal last year, should be a fun match.
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