I wish they had better casters. Rotti and Lowko are great but Rapid and Wardi cannot be worse. A lot of times I don't even know what they are talking about and all the awkward moments they made with the other cast. Where are Tastosis???
btw if you didn't realize yet, soO is still a Kong, because his win at IEM wasn't a Korean league.
Even if he does not care for non Korean events I'm pretty sure Maru likes money, so that would be a very bad argument if he were to lose a hypothetical grand final vs Serral.
BlizzCon was almost twice IEM's prize and people still said Maru didn't care.
Can you find an actual post of someone saying Maru didn't care about blizzcon? He literally said at the start of last year his goal was to win 3xCode S and blizzcon
Inno vs Serral could be fun to watch. The rematch of HSC final and the fisrt loose of the year for Serral at IEM stage groupe. Could Inno be the nemesis of Serral ?! Will he be the avenger of his former team mate Dark ?
btw if you didn't realize yet, soO is still a Kong, because his win at IEM wasn't a Korean league.
Even if he does not care for non Korean events I'm pretty sure Maru likes money, so that would be a very bad argument if he were to lose a hypothetical grand final vs Serral.
BlizzCon was almost twice IEM's prize and people still said Maru didn't care.
Can you find an actual post of someone saying Maru didn't care about blizzcon? He literally said at the start of last year his goal was to win 3xCode S and blizzcon
On March 13 2019 22:58 Harris1st wrote: The amount of excuses made up for Maru's loses is now officially higher than Mount Everest
Do you think its even higher then the amount of bullcrap with which serral fans try to justify serral loses?
Yes, much much higher. I have never once seen anyone claim that "Serral doesn't try in xxx games"
People were literally saying that when he lost to INno at IEM the other week.
And it's not just Maru's fans saying it either. It started because Maru himself said he didn't practice for the smaller events and took them as a break.
BlizzCon and IEM, those irrelevant tournaments!
The only loss Serral suffered that might be due to him actually not trying is the online 0-3 against Neeb right before BlizzCon, his level of play in that tournament was really weird considering the godlike Starcraft he played shortly after; Serral had two korean Protoss in his group…
As for Serral's loss against Inno, I wouldn't say he did not try but it's a fact that the match became irrelevant after Serral won the first map; what I strongly adversed was the idea those losses necessarily implied Serral's lategame ZvT being bad and Inno being favored once the games reach this stage. Inno played better those last two maps and rightfully won ; it's to be seen if he can manage to do it on a regular basis.
Speaking of soO vs Serral, I said Serral might have even looked a little better than soO mechanically on average during the series(very onesided victories and one incredibly hard comeback almost taken home in g3); however, soO's decision making was better and he committed less errors, let alone devastating ones like Serral's utter fail into gg in g2, totally deserving his victory. I don't see how this opinion can be summarized into "Serral played better and no one knows how he lost".
The last one at WESG is pretty self explanatory: Serral might have been sick but that's not unlike not being in shape, Neeb won convincingly, gg to him.
Don't force your view on Maru. Winning a home tournament where everyone has the time to prepare may be more important than Blizzcon for him. Similarly to the Proleague title(which was valued very highly).
Edit> Also moar excuses about Serral loses
Apparently, Maru lost at Blizzcon, which he had 5 weeks to prep for, because he cares about the GSL more, which had already concluded.
btw if you didn't realize yet, soO is still a Kong, because his win at IEM wasn't a Korean league.
Even if he does not care for non Korean events I'm pretty sure Maru likes money, so that would be a very bad argument if he were to lose a hypothetical grand final vs Serral.
BlizzCon was almost twice IEM's prize and people still said Maru didn't care.
Can you find an actual post of someone saying Maru didn't care about blizzcon? He literally said at the start of last year his goal was to win 3xCode S and blizzcon
On March 13 2019 22:58 Harris1st wrote: The amount of excuses made up for Maru's loses is now officially higher than Mount Everest
Do you think its even higher then the amount of bullcrap with which serral fans try to justify serral loses?
Yes, much much higher. I have never once seen anyone claim that "Serral doesn't try in xxx games"
People were literally saying that when he lost to INno at IEM the other week.
And it's not just Maru's fans saying it either. It started because Maru himself said he didn't practice for the smaller events and took them as a break.
BlizzCon and IEM, those irrelevant tournaments!
The only loss Serral suffered that might be due to him actually not trying is the online 0-3 against Neeb right before BlizzCon, his level of play in that tournament was really weird considering the godlike Starcraft he played shortly after; Serral had two korean Protoss in his group…
As for Serral's loss against Inno, I wouldn't say he did not try but it's a fact that the match became irrelevant after Serral won the first map; what I strongly adversed was the idea those losses necessarily implied Serral's lategame ZvT being bad and Inno being favored once the games reach this stage. Inno played better those last two maps and rightfully won ; it's to be seen if he can manage to do it on a regular basis.
Speaking of soO vs Serral, I said Serral might have even looked a little better than soO mechanically on average during the series(very onesided victories and one incredibly hard comeback almost taken home in g3); however, soO's decision making was better and he committed less errors, let alone devastating ones like Serral's utter fail into gg in g2, totally deserving his victory. I don't see how this opinion can be summarized into "Serral played better and no one knows how he lost".
The last one at WESG is pretty self explanatory: Serral might have been sick but that's not unlike not being in shape, Neeb won convincingly, gg to him.
Don't force your view on Maru. Winning a home tournament where everyone has the time to prepare may be more important than Blizzcon for him. Similarly to the Proleague title(which was valued very highly).
Edit> Also moar excuses about Serral loses
Apparently, Maru lost at Blizzcon, which he had 5 weeks to prep for, because he cares about the GSL more, which had already concluded.
Well the smiley from his post doesn't help your case, he is blatantly trolling/baiting.
On March 15 2019 00:39 fishjie wrote: maru vs serral will be sick. hope maru will win, cause otherwise the insufferable serral fans boys like dave will be popping off and demanding that the bullying of serral stop (see power rank thread). i'm also ok with scarlett winning that'd be awesome too, there are no insufferable scarlett fan boys
Noo, not really. Maru winning would result in Maru being canonized with every single Serral's accomplishment being diminished("you see? He only won because he dodged Maru, that foreigner scrub"); Inno winning is somehow better even if that would crown him GOAT in the eyes of his fans.
Although I am INnoVation fan, I don't think you need to be one to think INnoVation is the GOAT. That said, I think the whoever wins the semifinal matches, the final will be epic.
There is no clear GOAT in Sc2, Inno is surely in contention for the title but I see at least two other candidates for this title. Another Premier in 2019 would make everyone scream for GOAT more convincingly; I have to say I'm not strongly against that but I would clearly prefer another outcome. Inno as well has a couple of insufferable fanboys, by the way.
btw if you didn't realize yet, soO is still a Kong, because his win at IEM wasn't a Korean league.
Even if he does not care for non Korean events I'm pretty sure Maru likes money, so that would be a very bad argument if he were to lose a hypothetical grand final vs Serral.
BlizzCon was almost twice IEM's prize and people still said Maru didn't care.
Can you find an actual post of someone saying Maru didn't care about blizzcon? He literally said at the start of last year his goal was to win 3xCode S and blizzcon
This was said just the other day
On March 14 2019 00:32 deacon.frost wrote:
On March 14 2019 00:24 Xain0n wrote:
On March 14 2019 00:01 Fango wrote:
On March 13 2019 23:42 Amarillo Caballero wrote:
On March 13 2019 23:32 MarianoSC2 wrote:
On March 13 2019 22:58 Harris1st wrote: The amount of excuses made up for Maru's loses is now officially higher than Mount Everest
Do you think its even higher then the amount of bullcrap with which serral fans try to justify serral loses?
Yes, much much higher. I have never once seen anyone claim that "Serral doesn't try in xxx games"
People were literally saying that when he lost to INno at IEM the other week.
And it's not just Maru's fans saying it either. It started because Maru himself said he didn't practice for the smaller events and took them as a break.
BlizzCon and IEM, those irrelevant tournaments!
The only loss Serral suffered that might be due to him actually not trying is the online 0-3 against Neeb right before BlizzCon, his level of play in that tournament was really weird considering the godlike Starcraft he played shortly after; Serral had two korean Protoss in his group…
As for Serral's loss against Inno, I wouldn't say he did not try but it's a fact that the match became irrelevant after Serral won the first map; what I strongly adversed was the idea those losses necessarily implied Serral's lategame ZvT being bad and Inno being favored once the games reach this stage. Inno played better those last two maps and rightfully won ; it's to be seen if he can manage to do it on a regular basis.
Speaking of soO vs Serral, I said Serral might have even looked a little better than soO mechanically on average during the series(very onesided victories and one incredibly hard comeback almost taken home in g3); however, soO's decision making was better and he committed less errors, let alone devastating ones like Serral's utter fail into gg in g2, totally deserving his victory. I don't see how this opinion can be summarized into "Serral played better and no one knows how he lost".
The last one at WESG is pretty self explanatory: Serral might have been sick but that's not unlike not being in shape, Neeb won convincingly, gg to him.
Don't force your view on Maru. Winning a home tournament where everyone has the time to prepare may be more important than Blizzcon for him. Similarly to the Proleague title(which was valued very highly).
Edit> Also moar excuses about Serral loses
Apparently, Maru lost at Blizzcon, which he had 5 weeks to prep for, because he cares about the GSL more, which had already concluded.
Well the smiley from his post doesn't help your case, he is blatantly trolling/baiting.
Oh, he's clearly baiting/trolling about the Serral excuses because he knows it'll make Serral fanboys mad, as it did, but his other statement seemed pretty genuine imo
btw if you didn't realize yet, soO is still a Kong, because his win at IEM wasn't a Korean league.
Even if he does not care for non Korean events I'm pretty sure Maru likes money, so that would be a very bad argument if he were to lose a hypothetical grand final vs Serral.
BlizzCon was almost twice IEM's prize and people still said Maru didn't care.
Can you find an actual post of someone saying Maru didn't care about blizzcon? He literally said at the start of last year his goal was to win 3xCode S and blizzcon
This was said just the other day
On March 14 2019 00:32 deacon.frost wrote:
On March 14 2019 00:24 Xain0n wrote:
On March 14 2019 00:01 Fango wrote:
On March 13 2019 23:42 Amarillo Caballero wrote:
On March 13 2019 23:32 MarianoSC2 wrote:
On March 13 2019 22:58 Harris1st wrote: The amount of excuses made up for Maru's loses is now officially higher than Mount Everest
Do you think its even higher then the amount of bullcrap with which serral fans try to justify serral loses?
Yes, much much higher. I have never once seen anyone claim that "Serral doesn't try in xxx games"
People were literally saying that when he lost to INno at IEM the other week.
And it's not just Maru's fans saying it either. It started because Maru himself said he didn't practice for the smaller events and took them as a break.
BlizzCon and IEM, those irrelevant tournaments!
The only loss Serral suffered that might be due to him actually not trying is the online 0-3 against Neeb right before BlizzCon, his level of play in that tournament was really weird considering the godlike Starcraft he played shortly after; Serral had two korean Protoss in his group…
As for Serral's loss against Inno, I wouldn't say he did not try but it's a fact that the match became irrelevant after Serral won the first map; what I strongly adversed was the idea those losses necessarily implied Serral's lategame ZvT being bad and Inno being favored once the games reach this stage. Inno played better those last two maps and rightfully won ; it's to be seen if he can manage to do it on a regular basis.
Speaking of soO vs Serral, I said Serral might have even looked a little better than soO mechanically on average during the series(very onesided victories and one incredibly hard comeback almost taken home in g3); however, soO's decision making was better and he committed less errors, let alone devastating ones like Serral's utter fail into gg in g2, totally deserving his victory. I don't see how this opinion can be summarized into "Serral played better and no one knows how he lost".
The last one at WESG is pretty self explanatory: Serral might have been sick but that's not unlike not being in shape, Neeb won convincingly, gg to him.
Don't force your view on Maru. Winning a home tournament where everyone has the time to prepare may be more important than Blizzcon for him. Similarly to the Proleague title(which was valued very highly).
Edit> Also moar excuses about Serral loses
Apparently, Maru lost at Blizzcon, which he had 5 weeks to prep for, because he cares about the GSL more, which had already concluded.
Well the smiley from his post doesn't help your case, he is blatantly trolling/baiting.
The smiley is at the end of another phrase, the one regarding my "excuses" for Serral's recent defeats.
HSC XVIII wasn't technically a Premier because the first place was rewarded with 8k instead of 10k; Inno reaching the finals should be of some relevance nevertheless. Excluding Code S and WESG doesn't seem like cherrypicking a little? There were no Terran in the finals at GSL the World, BlizzCon and IEM, ok; Terran seems fine overall.
On March 15 2019 00:39 fishjie wrote: maru vs serral will be sick. hope maru will win, cause otherwise the insufferable serral fans boys like dave will be popping off and demanding that the bullying of serral stop (see power rank thread). i'm also ok with scarlett winning that'd be awesome too, there are no insufferable scarlett fan boys
Noo, not really. Maru winning would result in Maru being canonized with every single Serral's accomplishment being diminished("you see? He only won because he dodged Maru, that foreigner scrub"); Inno winning is somehow better even if that would crown him GOAT in the eyes of his fans.
not really, serral already proved himself best player in 2018 period, and i hate serral fanboys with a passion. its pretty much not open for debate. GSL vs the world, and then at blizzcon - he murdered all the korean competition. what i'm annoyed with is the hyperbole. serrals stats are inflated by being protected from region lock. he'd still have been best in 2018, but have that kind of record if no region lock? nah.
On March 15 2019 00:39 fishjie wrote: maru vs serral will be sick. hope maru will win, cause otherwise the insufferable serral fans boys like dave will be popping off and demanding that the bullying of serral stop (see power rank thread). i'm also ok with scarlett winning that'd be awesome too, there are no insufferable scarlett fan boys
Noo, not really. Maru winning would result in Maru being canonized with every single Serral's accomplishment being diminished("you see? He only won because he dodged Maru, that foreigner scrub"); Inno winning is somehow better even if that would crown him GOAT in the eyes of his fans.
not really, serral already proved himself best player in 2018 period, and i hate serral fanboys with a passion. its pretty much not open for debate. GSL vs the world, and then at blizzcon - he murdered all the korean competition. what i'm annoyed with is the hyperbole. serrals stats are inflated by being protected from region lock. he'd still have been best in 2018, but have that kind of record if no region lock? nah.
I agree, it is unlikely, but don't expect he'd have had a much worse record, his streak against koreans was still the longest ever seen; it would have probably ended sooner but not necessarily ran shorter considering Code S qualifiers and non top koreans in the groupstage.
In a wholly open Sc2 in one ideal world in which everyone takes part(or try to) to the every event without limitations, Serral wouldn't have gone undefeated and almost certainly wouldn't have won his 4 consecutive WCS; still, Serral's peak form would have been too much for anyone to handle and I think he might have won at least Code S S3(he had already ascended and Maru struggled a little to win his last title).
EPT
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