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On January 04 2017 04:10 Beelzebub1 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2017 02:55 Saechiis wrote:On January 04 2017 02:26 Beelzebub1 wrote:
The guy has hardly streamed or been relevant since WoL, I'm not sure why he's disappointed about anything, the guy pretty much got paid to do nothing.
On top of this he was always a low tier foreigner, never competitive on the scene even against other foreigners.
Best of luck to you HuK, nothing against you but meh, you should have retired years ago. When HuK got signed from TL to EG he was one of the best foreign players. He's one of the worst examples to claim to have been low tier and uncompetetive. Check your facts: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/HuKI also don't follow your logic where HuK being a nonfactor in recent years disallows him from having an opinion on recent developments or why he wouldn't be allowed to be disappointed by them. Weigh an opinion on it's merit, not on how you perceive the person that voiced it. One of the worst examples to claim for being low tier and noncompetitive? His last achievement was in 2014, getting 3 - 1'd and taking second place at a low tier tournament against Major who is also a low tier foreign player. He also has a couple of low tier tournaments from the same year. His only real crowning moments were his victories back in 2011 against MC and Naniwa, that is a long long time ago now, HuK has been irrelevant in the scene for multiple years now. Yea he was a top foreigner in WoL but you don't get paid for being the top 6 years ago and then for the last 2 years doing practically nothing.
I mean you literally said, word for word, "he was always a low tier foreigner" and now you're backtracking to say "yea he was a top foreigner in WoL"? (which at least is factually true)
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On January 04 2017 03:40 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2017 03:29 Mohdoo wrote:On January 04 2017 03:19 jmbthirteen wrote:On January 04 2017 02:27 Mohdoo wrote:On January 04 2017 02:26 Beelzebub1 wrote:
The guy has hardly streamed or been relevant since WoL, I'm not sure why he's disappointed about anything, the guy pretty much got paid to do nothing.
On top of this he was always a low tier foreigner, never competitive on the scene even against other foreigners.
Best of luck to you HuK, nothing against you but meh, you should have retired years ago. Same with Incontrol. He's on twitter being salty that he doesn't get some retirement ceremony when he hasn't been relevant for years. HuK and Incontrol kind of created this "meh" retirement situation by holding on as long as they did when there was nothing left. Because EG wouldn't be the same organization without HuK and iNcontroL. The results that HuK brought and there was a time where he was without a doubt the best foreigner. The switch from Liquid to EG rocked the scene. He is one of EG's most successful progamers ever. He absolutely deserved a tribute. And iNcontroL had been the face of EG for YEARS. He went so far beyond a player in that organization. He would travel to companies explaining progaming, explaining why its worth investing in, being that face of a franchise it needed. He went above and beyond for EG and thats why they kept him even when his results weren't anything special. Because he brought so much value to the organization. And its not even the SC2 guys. JWongg is no longer on EG. Yes, he decided to let his contract run out. But the only word from EG about it was from PPD in a short video on twitter adding it in to all the 2017 announcements. Momochi is gone. The dude won EVO in an EG jersey and nearly nothing is said. So here we have several KEY cogs of this organizations history being let go. Several guys who built up this organization to be the standard in esports just gone, with no thank you. No little tribute. No talks of what was to come with the organization. If you can't understand why HuK and iNcontroL are disappointed in how things ended then you just don't understand what these guys meant to EG. As an EG fan, its hard to see this change. I knew it was the end of SC2 there. Thats fine. I'm a big fan of the Dota team, and of PPD, I freaked out when they won TI5. But this just isn't cool. They could have done a lot better. I would have agreed with you 3 years ago. But at this point, their careers have been left to rot. Incontrol was the face of EG when SC2 was big and EG's SC2 squad was big. Those days are long over. This is a really unique situation because its very rare for a player to sink so low before finally leaving a team. This is where you are missing what else iNcontroL was doing for the organization and also that EG kept bringing these guys back because of the family that it was. Alex Garfield wasn't letting them go and kept them around because they did bring value to the organization. The biggest reason their value went down is because SC2 popularity went down.
Right, I understand that the value went down to to SC2 popularity declining, but does that really matter in a business context? If the main thing you are relevant in goes away, does your relevance not also probably start to decline?
My point here isn't that Inc/HuK weren't important, relevant and hugely beneficial to EG at one point. My point is that their relevance has declined so much over such a long period of time that big ceremonious retirements like we saw with Idra should not be expected.
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On January 04 2017 04:45 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2017 03:40 jmbthirteen wrote:On January 04 2017 03:29 Mohdoo wrote:On January 04 2017 03:19 jmbthirteen wrote:On January 04 2017 02:27 Mohdoo wrote:On January 04 2017 02:26 Beelzebub1 wrote:
The guy has hardly streamed or been relevant since WoL, I'm not sure why he's disappointed about anything, the guy pretty much got paid to do nothing.
On top of this he was always a low tier foreigner, never competitive on the scene even against other foreigners.
Best of luck to you HuK, nothing against you but meh, you should have retired years ago. Same with Incontrol. He's on twitter being salty that he doesn't get some retirement ceremony when he hasn't been relevant for years. HuK and Incontrol kind of created this "meh" retirement situation by holding on as long as they did when there was nothing left. Because EG wouldn't be the same organization without HuK and iNcontroL. The results that HuK brought and there was a time where he was without a doubt the best foreigner. The switch from Liquid to EG rocked the scene. He is one of EG's most successful progamers ever. He absolutely deserved a tribute. And iNcontroL had been the face of EG for YEARS. He went so far beyond a player in that organization. He would travel to companies explaining progaming, explaining why its worth investing in, being that face of a franchise it needed. He went above and beyond for EG and thats why they kept him even when his results weren't anything special. Because he brought so much value to the organization. And its not even the SC2 guys. JWongg is no longer on EG. Yes, he decided to let his contract run out. But the only word from EG about it was from PPD in a short video on twitter adding it in to all the 2017 announcements. Momochi is gone. The dude won EVO in an EG jersey and nearly nothing is said. So here we have several KEY cogs of this organizations history being let go. Several guys who built up this organization to be the standard in esports just gone, with no thank you. No little tribute. No talks of what was to come with the organization. If you can't understand why HuK and iNcontroL are disappointed in how things ended then you just don't understand what these guys meant to EG. As an EG fan, its hard to see this change. I knew it was the end of SC2 there. Thats fine. I'm a big fan of the Dota team, and of PPD, I freaked out when they won TI5. But this just isn't cool. They could have done a lot better. I would have agreed with you 3 years ago. But at this point, their careers have been left to rot. Incontrol was the face of EG when SC2 was big and EG's SC2 squad was big. Those days are long over. This is a really unique situation because its very rare for a player to sink so low before finally leaving a team. This is where you are missing what else iNcontroL was doing for the organization and also that EG kept bringing these guys back because of the family that it was. Alex Garfield wasn't letting them go and kept them around because they did bring value to the organization. The biggest reason their value went down is because SC2 popularity went down. Right, I understand that the value went down to to SC2 popularity declining, but does that really matter in a business context? If the main thing you are relevant in goes away, does your relevance not also probably start to decline? My point here isn't that Inc/HuK weren't important, relevant and hugely beneficial to EG at one point. My point is that their relevance has declined so much over such a long period of time that big ceremonious retirements like we saw with Idra should not be expected.
Your point is wrong because you clearly didn't follow the scene closely enough to know that iNcontroL was hugely important and relevant to EG on the marketing and exposure side (moreso than as a player). Much moreso than he would have been if he remained strictly a professional player and competitor. Alex Garfield understood this but now he's gone, unfortunately for EG.
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On January 04 2017 04:46 207aicila wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2017 04:45 Mohdoo wrote:On January 04 2017 03:40 jmbthirteen wrote:On January 04 2017 03:29 Mohdoo wrote:On January 04 2017 03:19 jmbthirteen wrote:On January 04 2017 02:27 Mohdoo wrote:On January 04 2017 02:26 Beelzebub1 wrote:
The guy has hardly streamed or been relevant since WoL, I'm not sure why he's disappointed about anything, the guy pretty much got paid to do nothing.
On top of this he was always a low tier foreigner, never competitive on the scene even against other foreigners.
Best of luck to you HuK, nothing against you but meh, you should have retired years ago. Same with Incontrol. He's on twitter being salty that he doesn't get some retirement ceremony when he hasn't been relevant for years. HuK and Incontrol kind of created this "meh" retirement situation by holding on as long as they did when there was nothing left. Because EG wouldn't be the same organization without HuK and iNcontroL. The results that HuK brought and there was a time where he was without a doubt the best foreigner. The switch from Liquid to EG rocked the scene. He is one of EG's most successful progamers ever. He absolutely deserved a tribute. And iNcontroL had been the face of EG for YEARS. He went so far beyond a player in that organization. He would travel to companies explaining progaming, explaining why its worth investing in, being that face of a franchise it needed. He went above and beyond for EG and thats why they kept him even when his results weren't anything special. Because he brought so much value to the organization. And its not even the SC2 guys. JWongg is no longer on EG. Yes, he decided to let his contract run out. But the only word from EG about it was from PPD in a short video on twitter adding it in to all the 2017 announcements. Momochi is gone. The dude won EVO in an EG jersey and nearly nothing is said. So here we have several KEY cogs of this organizations history being let go. Several guys who built up this organization to be the standard in esports just gone, with no thank you. No little tribute. No talks of what was to come with the organization. If you can't understand why HuK and iNcontroL are disappointed in how things ended then you just don't understand what these guys meant to EG. As an EG fan, its hard to see this change. I knew it was the end of SC2 there. Thats fine. I'm a big fan of the Dota team, and of PPD, I freaked out when they won TI5. But this just isn't cool. They could have done a lot better. I would have agreed with you 3 years ago. But at this point, their careers have been left to rot. Incontrol was the face of EG when SC2 was big and EG's SC2 squad was big. Those days are long over. This is a really unique situation because its very rare for a player to sink so low before finally leaving a team. This is where you are missing what else iNcontroL was doing for the organization and also that EG kept bringing these guys back because of the family that it was. Alex Garfield wasn't letting them go and kept them around because they did bring value to the organization. The biggest reason their value went down is because SC2 popularity went down. Right, I understand that the value went down to to SC2 popularity declining, but does that really matter in a business context? If the main thing you are relevant in goes away, does your relevance not also probably start to decline? My point here isn't that Inc/HuK weren't important, relevant and hugely beneficial to EG at one point. My point is that their relevance has declined so much over such a long period of time that big ceremonious retirements like we saw with Idra should not be expected. Your point is wrong because you clearly didn't follow the scene closely enough to know that iNcontroL was hugely important and relevant to EG on the marketing and exposure side (moreso than as a player). Much moreso than he would have been if he remained strictly a professional player and competitor. Alex Garfield understood this but now he's gone, unfortunately for EG.
So outside of SC2, what else?
Edit: And I mean outside of SC2 casting and anything at all SC2 related. It seemed like he did some stuff with the EG house, but besides that.
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On January 04 2017 04:38 ZackAttack wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2017 04:10 Beelzebub1 wrote:On January 04 2017 02:55 Saechiis wrote:On January 04 2017 02:26 Beelzebub1 wrote:
The guy has hardly streamed or been relevant since WoL, I'm not sure why he's disappointed about anything, the guy pretty much got paid to do nothing.
On top of this he was always a low tier foreigner, never competitive on the scene even against other foreigners.
Best of luck to you HuK, nothing against you but meh, you should have retired years ago. When HuK got signed from TL to EG he was one of the best foreign players. He's one of the worst examples to claim to have been low tier and uncompetetive. Check your facts: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/HuKI also don't follow your logic where HuK being a nonfactor in recent years disallows him from having an opinion on recent developments or why he wouldn't be allowed to be disappointed by them. Weigh an opinion on it's merit, not on how you perceive the person that voiced it. One of the worst examples to claim for being low tier and noncompetitive? His last achievement was in 2014, getting 3 - 1'd and taking second place at a low tier tournament against Major who is also a low tier foreign player. He also has a couple of low tier tournaments from the same year. His only real crowning moments were his victories back in 2011 against MC and Naniwa, that is a long long time ago now, HuK has been irrelevant in the scene for multiple years now. Yea he was a top foreigner in WoL but you don't get paid for being the top 6 years ago and then for the last 2 years doing practically nothing. You said "always". Huk was one of the best players in the world for years, and one of the top 5 best foreigners for most of his career. It is clear that you have no idea what you are talking about if you think he was "always a low tier foreigner". He is just about the last guy that fits that description besides maybe nani or stephano. Stop.
Anyone who thinks his best result from 2014 years was a silver for an online tournament clearly knows little of HuK and just scrolled down on his liquipedia page. His most prestigious result (against good opponents) was a 5-8th place finish in WCS AM season 3, where he was one of two foreigners to break up the ro8 in a Korean dominated region.
Additionally, he was relevant as recent as March of this year where he got a ro8 in a WCS tournament. Sure, he played against somewhat weaker foreigners, but if we're talking relevancy to other foreigners, then he was definitely up there this year.
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Shows that ethics are not always front and center in business. How quickly people often forget where they came from when they achieve success. Just because their game didn't remain as popular shouldn't be a reason to disregard the loyalty of the players on their sc2 team to the organization. Anyway, no matter the decision EG came to, it costs nothing to treat people with the respect they deserve.
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On January 04 2017 04:45 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2017 03:40 jmbthirteen wrote:On January 04 2017 03:29 Mohdoo wrote:On January 04 2017 03:19 jmbthirteen wrote:On January 04 2017 02:27 Mohdoo wrote:On January 04 2017 02:26 Beelzebub1 wrote:
The guy has hardly streamed or been relevant since WoL, I'm not sure why he's disappointed about anything, the guy pretty much got paid to do nothing.
On top of this he was always a low tier foreigner, never competitive on the scene even against other foreigners.
Best of luck to you HuK, nothing against you but meh, you should have retired years ago. Same with Incontrol. He's on twitter being salty that he doesn't get some retirement ceremony when he hasn't been relevant for years. HuK and Incontrol kind of created this "meh" retirement situation by holding on as long as they did when there was nothing left. Because EG wouldn't be the same organization without HuK and iNcontroL. The results that HuK brought and there was a time where he was without a doubt the best foreigner. The switch from Liquid to EG rocked the scene. He is one of EG's most successful progamers ever. He absolutely deserved a tribute. And iNcontroL had been the face of EG for YEARS. He went so far beyond a player in that organization. He would travel to companies explaining progaming, explaining why its worth investing in, being that face of a franchise it needed. He went above and beyond for EG and thats why they kept him even when his results weren't anything special. Because he brought so much value to the organization. And its not even the SC2 guys. JWongg is no longer on EG. Yes, he decided to let his contract run out. But the only word from EG about it was from PPD in a short video on twitter adding it in to all the 2017 announcements. Momochi is gone. The dude won EVO in an EG jersey and nearly nothing is said. So here we have several KEY cogs of this organizations history being let go. Several guys who built up this organization to be the standard in esports just gone, with no thank you. No little tribute. No talks of what was to come with the organization. If you can't understand why HuK and iNcontroL are disappointed in how things ended then you just don't understand what these guys meant to EG. As an EG fan, its hard to see this change. I knew it was the end of SC2 there. Thats fine. I'm a big fan of the Dota team, and of PPD, I freaked out when they won TI5. But this just isn't cool. They could have done a lot better. I would have agreed with you 3 years ago. But at this point, their careers have been left to rot. Incontrol was the face of EG when SC2 was big and EG's SC2 squad was big. Those days are long over. This is a really unique situation because its very rare for a player to sink so low before finally leaving a team. This is where you are missing what else iNcontroL was doing for the organization and also that EG kept bringing these guys back because of the family that it was. Alex Garfield wasn't letting them go and kept them around because they did bring value to the organization. The biggest reason their value went down is because SC2 popularity went down. Right, I understand that the value went down to to SC2 popularity declining, but does that really matter in a business context? If the main thing you are relevant in goes away, does your relevance not also probably start to decline? My point here isn't that Inc/HuK weren't important, relevant and hugely beneficial to EG at one point. My point is that their relevance has declined so much over such a long period of time that big ceremonious retirements like we saw with Idra should not be expected.
There's a lot between a retirement ceremony and a couple of seconds on a 1.40 minute video. Creating a little video about each player, their achievements and EG thanking them for everything plus something done privately would be a decent way to split. This doesn't really cost anything except some time investment. It's good manners.
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ppd & crew were handed ownership not because they're been "good EG guys" through the years, but because they literally made millions of dollars for the organisation from their Dota 2 victories. I don't really know what HuK and inControl were contributing to the company the last few years. I mean, Geoff is a cool guy and all, but seriously, streaming from your home with an EG shirt on is probably worth about 3 dollars an hour, not a stake in equity.
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I think you guys are over thinking things. If our jobs let us go, are we getting big parties? The gaming community seems to be so disconnected from the real world. One guy mentioned huks last achievement was in 2014. So for 2 years eg paid him for nothing. What real job does that?
They paid him for starcraft. He didnt want to play it anymore and their starcraft division went to shit. Shocked. They got rid of it.
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EG had a sc2 division in 2016? I thought Huk switched to overwatch and the others already retired, are in school or gone back to bw.
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Huk,
Let me quote iNcontroL during my leave of EG. He said to me (paraphrasing), "Eric, we are gamers. We play a video game. We don't deserve that fucking much and should be happy with what we get".
I was told this over probably 1 / 10,000th of what you ended up getting and I agree with him.
When I read your statement (and I read it all), I can't help but come to the understanding that you think you deserve more than what you got when I see it as the complete opposite. EG was overly fair to you including during this transition.
They kept you around much longer than nearly every other team would and paid you higher than most other teams would. The fact that they didn't keep you in the loop when they were planning on disbanding your game and removing you from the team shouldn't shock you. It's a standard business practice and EG is a business, not a family. You were an asset to that business and as a player for a game they no longer support as the game is not financially viable enough to their sponsors or them, you are useless to them. That's how it goes.
Good luck learning a new game or learning new skills to propel you into your next job.
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PPD has no idea what he's doing. If he was going to disband the SC2 division because he thinks the game's scene is no longer lucrative, the best case would be to at least communicate his thoughts. This douche just did nothing and let the clock run out, until the SC2 division at EG was fed up with not knowing what's going on. Absolutely absurd. It should be known that whatever the task, it should be left up to someone with the knowledge and skills; and in this case, PPD is a player, he has no skills in managing an organization outside of a game. Should've just hired a CEO or manager instead of pissing on some of the oldest EG players that contributed to the success EG became.
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On January 04 2017 06:15 Advantageous wrote:
PPD has no idea what he's doing. If he was going to disband the SC2 division because he thinks the game's scene is no longer lucrative, the best case would be to at least communicate his thoughts. This douche just did nothing and let the clock run out, until the SC2 division at EG was fed up with not knowing what's going on. Absolutely absurd. It should be known that whatever the task, it should be left up to someone with the knowledge and skills; and in this case, PPD is a player, he has no skills in managing an organization outside of a game. Should've just hired a CEO or manager instead of pissing on some of the oldest EG players that contributed to the success EG became.
Have you followed competitive dota at all? PPD has more of a business mind than Garfield ever had. Cutting sc2 is the smartest thing he could have done. When was the last time HuK contributed literally any income to the team?
You can't run a business on an old legacy man, thas not how it works.
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Good luck to HuK. If he doesn't have a degree, he should get one instead of playing video games for life. Pro gaming is a short career in the long run. Even if you find a pro gamer who has been doing it for 10 years, other jobs could offer you more.
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On January 04 2017 06:31 AnathemAbw wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2017 06:15 Advantageous wrote:
PPD has no idea what he's doing. If he was going to disband the SC2 division because he thinks the game's scene is no longer lucrative, the best case would be to at least communicate his thoughts. This douche just did nothing and let the clock run out, until the SC2 division at EG was fed up with not knowing what's going on. Absolutely absurd. It should be known that whatever the task, it should be left up to someone with the knowledge and skills; and in this case, PPD is a player, he has no skills in managing an organization outside of a game. Should've just hired a CEO or manager instead of pissing on some of the oldest EG players that contributed to the success EG became. Have you followed competitive dota at all? PPD has more of a business mind than Garfield ever had.
Yeah that's a very bold statement lol. Garfield was one of the most influential businessman in esports. PPD is just a good dota captain.
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I don't get all the anti-Huk sentiment. Maybe I missed something (I read it yesterday, I think), but isn't his post saying that he thought they deserved more of a formal goodbye announcement? Most of Huk's post was saying how great EG has been for him and how happy he was to be a part of it.
Wasn't the announcement by EG was just a throwaway line in a poorly made video? These things really do matter and are a reflection on the professionalism of the organization. For a public figure to part ways with a public company, there should be a brief release. All EG needed to do was make a somewhat well written post saying 'goodbye, thanks for the memories'.
Poor move by EG. This reflects poorly on EG and how other aspects of the team is run. Based on this, I can't help but think they're not running it as well as they could.
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On January 04 2017 06:02 G5 wrote:
Huk,
Let me quote iNcontroL during my leave of EG. He said to me (paraphrasing), "Eric, we are gamers. We play a video game. We don't deserve that fucking much and should be happy with what we get".
I was told this over probably 1 / 10,000th of what you ended up getting and I agree with him.
When I read your statement (and I read it all), I can't help but come to the understanding that you think you deserve more than what you got when I see it as the complete opposite. EG was overly fair to you including during this transition.
They kept you around much longer than nearly every other team would and paid you higher than most other teams would. The fact that they didn't keep you in the loop when they were planning on disbanding your game and removing you from the team shouldn't shock you. It's a standard business practice and EG is a business, not a family. You were an asset to that business and as a player for a game they no longer support as the game is not financially viable enough to their sponsors or them, you are useless to them. That's how it goes.
Good luck learning a new game or learning new skills to propel you into your next job.
As a side note G5, I feel like the least they could have done for these players was to make a more respectful public statement than what they did (and I mean ALL the players).
It really doesn't take too much show a little more respect especially when eSport companies have actually professionalized far more over the years.
The one thing that gets me personally is how EG went from being one of the most professional organizations, with some of the best PR out there to where they are today.
It feels like they've really fallen off in terms of overall quality. I don't care that they make business decisions - they've always had to make them. The fact is that EG used to make the decisions and communicate them so much more effectively and professionally than they are now.
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On January 04 2017 06:31 AnathemAbw wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2017 06:15 Advantageous wrote:
PPD has no idea what he's doing. If he was going to disband the SC2 division because he thinks the game's scene is no longer lucrative, the best case would be to at least communicate his thoughts. This douche just did nothing and let the clock run out, until the SC2 division at EG was fed up with not knowing what's going on. Absolutely absurd. It should be known that whatever the task, it should be left up to someone with the knowledge and skills; and in this case, PPD is a player, he has no skills in managing an organization outside of a game. Should've just hired a CEO or manager instead of pissing on some of the oldest EG players that contributed to the success EG became. Have you followed competitive dota at all? PPD has more of a business mind than Garfield ever had. Cutting sc2 is the smartest thing he could have done. When was the last time HuK contributed literally any income to the team?You can't run a business on an old legacy man, thas not how it works.
How much do you think EG has been spending on SC2 since Jaedong left? I doubt it's really all that much. It's a smart decision financially, but it probably wouldn't have ruined EG either way. Idk, acting like it's a god tier business decision irked me.
Also @ the guy saying, "mrahhhhh!!! stupid EG players wanting to get a send off, look at the real world!" That's kind of a false analogy imo. More analogous is when sports professionals retire, even if they haven't been on said team in a few years.
For any football fans, Steve Smith Sr. just retired from the NFL after 16 years in the league. He hasn't played on the Panthers in 3-4 years, but the previous 12 he did. Even though he didn't have much of a current connection to the organization, check the Facebook page and team website. A lot of tributes to Steve Smith, and everything he brought to the org.
We're getting into the territory of eSports and personalities having very large fanbases. I think it's completely fair for these two to want more than a few seconds in amateur looking youtube video. A compilation of their best/funniest/coolest moments, all centering around EG, would've been a nice touch. These guys have been with the organization for half a decade.
It's also a smart business decision to invest 2-3 hours into making these videos, because it would show that EG is more than just a business organization blablabla and it could give the org good publicity. Players want to go to orgs that appreciate them.
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On January 04 2017 06:31 AnathemAbw wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2017 06:15 Advantageous wrote:
PPD has no idea what he's doing. If he was going to disband the SC2 division because he thinks the game's scene is no longer lucrative, the best case would be to at least communicate his thoughts. This douche just did nothing and let the clock run out, until the SC2 division at EG was fed up with not knowing what's going on. Absolutely absurd. It should be known that whatever the task, it should be left up to someone with the knowledge and skills; and in this case, PPD is a player, he has no skills in managing an organization outside of a game. Should've just hired a CEO or manager instead of pissing on some of the oldest EG players that contributed to the success EG became. Have you followed competitive dota at all? PPD has more of a business mind than Garfield ever had. Cutting sc2 is the smartest thing he could have done. When was the last time HuK contributed literally any income to the team? You can't run a business on an old legacy man, thas not how it works.
Just pointing out -- the post you're replying to (and I think the bulk of the people who feel bad about this) specifically says that the way that the cut happened is the problem, not the fact that SC2 was cut. Personally, my heart goes out to Geoff, Chris, and the other people cut; it's really unprofessional to announce cuts publicly first, without letting your colleagues know what's coming down the pike (so they can make plans), and handling any disagreements privately.
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Realized ppd didn't just inherit EG Dota but the whole company. Well, he probably doesn't care enough about the other players to give them a tribute. If he can bad-mouth Aui after kicking him off their TI-winning team, he wouldn't shed a tear for the other players on other games.
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